Westminstenders: Long live liberalism

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Talk of its demise are premature.

(Sorry up to eyeballs this weekend)

If he is radiating love to leavers we should be fairly safe, another good reason not to support leave.
Avoiding Johnson's love spittle.

Why do leavers even need love radiating towards them? Surely they're already feeling warm, happy thoughts as we head towards what they want (or think they want!) and don't need anymore love?!

It's the remainers they should focus on winning over as it'll be those people who, as soon as they get the chance, will fuck their ambitions up by voting them out.

But I suppose the path of least resistance is far easier, so obviously the one which lazy Boris will choose.

I didn't know that either - but never have any in the house (not even wipes) as my doctor dad was always anti it

Secret plan to use charities to help deport rough sleepers

Ignoring EU law again
Ignoring a UK High Court judgement again
And Brexiters expect the EU to just trust the UK re the NI border, alignment of food standards etc

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/06/home-office-secret-plan-charities-deport-rough-sleepers

Home Office accused of turning ‘outreach workers into border guards’ as emails reveal new scheme targeting non-UK homeless

A chain of emails from senior Home Office officials from December 2018 to May 2019 also shows that
the clandestine programme ignores European privacy laws
by passing rough sleepers’ sensitive personal information directly to the Home Office without their consent.

The scheme, which is still in a trial phase, is seen by charities and campaigners as the latest manifestation of the Home Office’s much maligned “hostile environment” policy.
A previous plan to deport EU rough sleepers was defeated 18 months ago when the high court deemed it unlawful and discriminatory.

But the Home Office, apparently undeterred, has rolled out a remarkably similar new scheme .....

What is Toxic to pets ?

Human chocolate, especially dark choc, is poisonous to cats & dogs
Also some common human foods, if you give them scraps

https://www.pdsa.org.uk/taking-care-of-your-pet/looking-after-your-pet/all-pets/poisons-and-hazards-for-your-pets

Nick Cohen: When ‘respectable’ conservatives bow to the far right it’s always disastrous

and let's not forget some Lexiters who also tolerate, even ally with, far right politicians

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/06/far-right-invited-conservatives-boris-johnson


The far right does not seize power.
It is invited in to power by mainstream conservatives,
who boast of their commitment to free societies.

They do it for partisan gain.
They do it because they hate and fear the left more than they hate and fear the far right.
But most of all they do it because they have run out of ideas.
....
Leftish condemnations of “neoliberalism” miss that the Thatcher/Reagan ideology of the 1980s is over.
Conservatives rarely admit it, in public at any rate, but an idea is still dead even if no one turns up for the funeral.

Who can now pretend hopes that a small state and free markets would bring prosperity to the mass of people are anything more than a hollow joke?
The 2010s have been the worst decade for wage growth in 200 years.
The real value of average wages has still not staggered back to its 2007 level.
.....
Put yourself in the place of the conservatives who thought Ronald Reagan’s and Margaret Thatcher’s certainties would sustain them.

They have learned the lesson of the 2010s that fear beats hope.
They have heard the audience cheer when they bash immigrants and the EU, and fall silent when they talk of compromise and tolerance.

They wonder what would happen if its rage were directed at them rather than convenient scapegoats.

Oh no, I'm far to working class for zoflora. It stinks too. Its disinfectant, not a bloody alpine meadow ffs.

I was reading about rotten boroughs last night and Hunt and Johnson sprang (ewww) to mind.

I dont have cats so can spray dettol with abandon :)

Another seabourne freight fiasco in the making? www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48875402

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48810069

From BBC article.
{the department hopes this will allow patients to receive the medicines they need, }

HOPING is not that reassuring for those on life preserving, time critical medication.
Many people HOPE the will win on the lottery.

Isn't it an indictment of the competence of the Government that the BBC included in a matter of fact way this statement in its article?

It has smartened up its act on procurement after running up a bill of £80m trying to arrange ferry contracts in the event of a no-deal exit.

And as far as we are aware, not a single person was sacked as a result of that fiasco - not even especially not Failing Grayling

In a recent conversation, a friend recently quoted an eyewateringly high figure for the financial cost of Brexit so far - something like 100 years worth of the annual contribution we make to the EU (not sure if net figure or the real one - we can't ask BJ as he seems to struggle with maths). So many of you on this thread are incredibly well informed, I thought you might know? Obviously the economic cost is only part of the impact as society splinters and politics moves further and further to the right...

If nothing else, Brexit is slowly reducing the UKs ability to fight sustained remote wars. Which might in hindsight be the whole point. Call it "Saddams revenge".

{Call it "Saddams revenge".}
Or a bit like 'Delhi belly'?

A poster on a recent R North blog quoted a calculation that the EEG's proposed "Alternative Arrangements" would cost £13 billion per year, to be paid mostly by business

and still wouldn't work !

From the BBC website talking about Flyadeal cancelling 20 Boeing planes.
{The deal, which included an additional option to purchase 20 more 737 Max aircraft, was worth $5.9bn at list prices, but the airline would have been offered a discount on that price tag.
Instead flyadeal, which is controlled by state-owned Saudi Arabian Airlines, will operate a fleet of Airbus A320 planes}

This should be good news to Airbus. Shame the UK is leaving and may have benefited more.
When will 'Leavers' wake up to what they are doing?

no deal could see imports of food illegal to produce in UK

Shame so many farmers voted leave then, eh?

Tory leadership vote: Hundreds of voters ‘issued two ballot papers'

"organising pissup in a brewery" ......
After all their claims of people - a far smaller % of voters - voting twice in GEs and locals

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/hundreds-of-tory-members-ballot-papers-leadership-vote-a4183741.html

One party insider said more than 1,000 people could have received multiple forms to cast their vote in the leadership contest.
......
But some have received two ballot papers,

in some cases because members live and work in different constituencies and may have joined local Conservative Associations in both areas.
People who have changed their name, after marriage for example, may also have been affected

There’s a thread in AIBU wondering about the point of EHIC cards; the OP tells of somebody who’s never heard of them. FFS. No wonder people voted for Brexit.

Even 40 odd years ago, he was against too much use of disinfectants (like antibiotics). Iirc because I just absorbed into my habits he was concerned that the "bad" bugs would survive and that people would think that the use of Dettol was a panacea rather than adopting general good practice.

We literally never had it in the house. He also didn't like the use of iodine on a scrape (common on the continent) as he said it would seal the scrape when there might still be dirt inside.

This was before the concerns about over-use of antibiotics became widespread knowledge - but maybe medics were already aware.

If nothing else, Brexit is slowly reducing the UKs ability to fight sustained remote wars.

Which might be one advantage of Brexit.

BTW I wondered why Pretty's Dad was against Dettol.