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Why is getting Brexit more important than having a competent government/leader?

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GertrudeSaysWhat · 02/06/2019 09:15

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/01/brexit-party-nigel-farage-lead-opinion-poll-conservatives-

I can’t understand. I’ll be upfront and same I’m an ardent remainer but trying to think objectively, I can’t understand how a party with only one policy, no serving MPs, no-one with any experience of leading a government, running a ministerial department can possibly be topping the opinion polls for the next election. I mean seriously?! Farage has tried and failed multiple times to become an MP in the UK. His attendance record as an MEP was abysmal. His previous political party, UKIP failed and then slipped into an openly racist shit show (from which he sidled off) What on earth qualifies him to PM?

A protest vote for them at the MEP elections is one thing (potentially not that damaging if we do leave the EU as they’d have no jobs) but actually having them in UK parliament? I don’t understand! Please do explain, someone, ANYONE!

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1tisILeClerc · 02/06/2019 17:34

FWIW my suggestion of 3 years MIMIMUM was simply a very low estimate that of the UK is determined to basically 'crash out' that is around the time minimum negotiation would be. 5-10 years are more likely if the UK wants to trade properly.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 02/06/2019 17:44

Which is why picking a competent leader is not as important as picking someone who will get us out of the EU.

I think its the competent word is the important one in that sentence

Lets just hope that when farage deigns to release a manifesto that it doesnt have any very nasty surprises

Cos fuck me but im gonna judge the shit out of people if that happens

And i pride myself on my general lack of judginess

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 02/06/2019 17:52

like

did johnson do the water cannons

tobee · 02/06/2019 17:52

Trump's endorsement of Boris and Farage certainly strikes me as disturbing. Another person, like Farage, who had no government experience, which didn't prevent him from getting into office. (Although maybe you could call his time occasionally turning up at the EU as experience?)

Why does Putin keep popping into my head?

1tisILeClerc · 02/06/2019 18:01

{did johnson do the water cannons}

Yes, and if whoever gets to be PM can't get a really good plan together that unites both leavers and remainers, they could possibly be needed.

PortiaCastis · 02/06/2019 18:10

Ha yep line up farridge boris and trumpton and I'll use the bleddy water cannon.

Tanith · 02/06/2019 19:35

You can't use the water cannons. He sold them off for scrap.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 02/06/2019 20:08

I thought he did tanith

Wasted shedloads of money because he didnt check to see if he could use them first

Thats how clever he is

PortiaCastis · 02/06/2019 22:03

Oh no so I won't be able to use the cannon on the trio of tosspots.
Mind you I've just looked up how much taxpayers money bojo has wasted on said cannons apparently its £308,975 according to the bbc

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46258584

Peregrina · 03/06/2019 07:14

Add to that the money he wasted on the garden bridge.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 03/06/2019 09:31

I guess if Sadiq Khan were to suggest building a pedestrian bridge it would be derided? Hmmm?

Cattenberg · 03/06/2019 10:01

And in the meantime, the US has admitted that they would expect the NHS to be part of any trade deal, and for the UK to accept more US food imports despite concern over the US’s food safety standards.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-48489524/us-ambassador-woody-johnson-on-us-food-if-the-british-people-like-it-they-can-buy-it

This is what “freedom from the EU” really looks like. I expect Farage will be pleased - he has already advocated replacing the NHS with a system of private health insurance.

1tisILeClerc · 03/06/2019 10:26

{I guess if Sadiq Khan were to suggest building a pedestrian bridge it would be derided?}
The idea of a bridge isn't a bad one as long as it is in the place it would be used effectively. It was the implementation that was the dogs dinner.

Mistigri · 03/06/2019 11:31

I guess if Sadiq Khan were to suggest building a pedestrian bridge it would be derided

What relevance does this have, unless and until he suggests this? (We get that you don't like Sadiq, and we know why).

1tisILeClerc · 03/06/2019 11:41

Walkingdeadfangirl
Is one of those who has no real concept of how crap the UK is going to be when she gets her 'leave', but who will then complain bitterly that the unicorns haven't arrived, but that years of even greater austerity have.
Of course it will be someone else's fault.

Jaxhog · 03/06/2019 11:43

The most important issue right now is getting out of the EU. No matter what.

Why?

Jaxhog · 03/06/2019 11:47

Trump's endorsement of Boris and Farage certainly strikes me as disturbing.

But hardly surprising. Trump is a self obsessed, 'will-o-the-wisp' maverick. Sounds familiar?

fairweathercyclist · 04/06/2019 18:45

People are chumps. They are bought and sold so easily by loudmouths with deep pockets

Including, it seems, most of the Tory leadership candidates. How can they be so naive?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 04/06/2019 18:59

Ordinary folk voting Brexit didn't make sense in 2016.
Car workers voting Brexit party in 2019 doesn't make sense.
Supporting Brexit now we know the NHS will be up for grabs makes no sense.

I'd laugh if I wasn't going to be fucked over by Brexit myself.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 04/06/2019 20:24

Supporting Brexit now we know the NHS will be up for grabs makes no sense

Are you suggesting if we leave the EU we will be forced to sell our NHS.

If I ring my doctor, will they say "sorry we have been sold, try the local witch doctor". WTF does this remainer nonsense actually mean. Remainers should be banned from posting.

TheElementsSong · 04/06/2019 20:26

Remainers should be banned from posting.

Oo-er missus!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 04/06/2019 20:31

Interesting theelements

PortiaCastis · 04/06/2019 20:43

The bit about the NHS in Trump's speech is chilling !

GhostofFrankGrimes · 04/06/2019 21:05

So POTUS and US ambassador say NHS is up for grabs but it’s still project fear. Why do leavers not trust their own eyes and ears?

Clavinova · 04/06/2019 21:05

I guess if Sadiq Khan were to suggest building a pedestrian bridge it would be derided
What relevance does this have, unless and until he suggests this?

He has proposed another bridge!

7th April 2019:
a similar fiasco about another proposed bridge across the Thames is quietly gathering pace.

"In October 2016 Sadiq Khan announced that a new cycling and pedestrian bridge would be built to connect Rotherhithe and Canary Wharf"

"the cost of it is now becoming the critical issue.As of February 2019, TfL has already spent £9.9 million on the project and its budget suggests another £8 million will be spent this year even before planning permission is sought."

TfL originally said the bridge would cost between £120 million and £180 million to build and £2.4 million a year to run

Other calculations anticipate it will cost £200 million to build and, privately, some TfL officers have not disputed that the build cost could go as high as £400 million.

www.onlondon.co.uk/andrew-wood-sadiq-khans-rotherhithe-canary-wharf-river-crossing-could-collapse-like-the-garden-bridge/