I'm not afraid to admit I'm terrified

[StealthPolarBear]

I really am. It feels like we're hurtling towards no deal Brexit with a coward and idiot at the helm who couldnt organise a booze up in a brewery.
What are we heading for? Huge economic crash? War?

[StealthPolarBear]

Thanks Cyberworrier. I thought there had been a scandal but I might be misremembering.
Big woman, enjoy your tears of mirth. Some of us are worried. You're not. Good for you. Stick you r head back in the sand love.

[Cyberworrier]

The kind of person filling this thread with lighthearted lols while the UK drags itself further into child poverty, crap economy, disfunctional public services is probably the kind of person who has caused this shitshow through an absolute lack of criticality, empathy and common sense.

[Fishdoggy]

Worrying to this extreme implies trust in our politicians, I don't share your faith. I think there will be a period of hardship, possibly even food shortages but things will adjust. Capitalism requires customers so agreements will be reached. The small man/woman is expendable (no change here) but life will go on. I don't predict a War. Brexit needs to happen or all faith in democracy is lost completely.

[StealthPolarBear]

Billingham lost British steel, which is 40ins away.
Nowhere near as badly as scunthorpe, I realise :(

[Gronky]

how the actual fuck do you think 1930s Germany became the horror of the Nazi party

A combination of a perception of ill treatment by foreign powers and the rising threat of violent extreme leftists within Germany seeking to make the country a vassal state of the USSR?

[StealthPolarBear]

"Mass forced policitics doesn't work"
What is the alternative? Genuine question and I'm hoping there's an answer. I'm not very knowledgeable.

[Blinkingblimey]

isthebigwomanhere - it’s really funny yeah. Sorry, forgive me, but do you have any proffesional (military, diplomatic, academic..pretty much any...) credentials that give you the genuine right to be respected for such a viewpoint? Or are you just spouting shit because it suits your agenda?! Out yourself and give your accreditations or don’t laugh at others’ genuine fears. HTH.

[megletthesecond]

I'm worried too.
If you're not worried you're not paying attention. Or you're a millionaire.

[StealthPolarBear]

Or an idiot

[StealthPolarBear]

Or all three boris

[SinisterBumFacedCat]

Short term i’m Worried about the medication, DS, DH and I rely on prescriptions to stay alive. I know some Brexiters have a Darwinistic view that this survival of the fittest and will sort the wheat from the chaff. Well, best of luck with that. You might not be loosing all the people you’d hoped too.

Long term, the future of workers, environmental and human rights bothers me, I don’t trust Farage Reese Smoogg etc to be looking out for anyone’s interests but their own, the loss of the nhs and the rise of the far right, those types that just erase the people they don’t like, that bothers me.

[Newuseroftheweek]

Isthebigwoman, war has generally had its roots in nationalistic rhetoric and populist leaders. Combined with economic hardship and political opportunism (distract the masses!) the scene is set for conflict.

Who with? That's to be seen. Russia is the obvious aggressor. Already working it's way into Europe and the UK is not likely to stand back if they make another aggressive move. Or maybe they will, but not the next one. Wars don't always start for large ideological reasons with logical basis. That's why small incidents are clamped down on so strongly in normal times. Rising tensions can easily inflame historical emnity, and who knows what can happen.

History has shown that the best defence to war is prosperity and shared values. We've clearly lost that now.

[SmellsLikeAdultSpirit]

EugenesAxe
Does your husband not realise that if we don't leave we stay with the very beneficial arrangement we already have
If we leave and then try to get back in we will get a bum deal, if they will have us of course

[OhMyDarling]

I’m with you OP
I’m worried I won’t be able to feed my kids
I’m a teacher
But stuck with debt from an ex, plus student loans, no child maintenance and I’m struggling now. Prices are rising and I am panicked.
I’ve started walking everywhere to save on petrol costs which are crazy high, my clothes all have holes in- no money to buy anything new, and I’ve sold everything I have that will fetch any decent amount eg £10+.

I think our country is screwed with these tw*ts messing with our futures. Aligning ourselves with Trump is the worst thing we could do.

[Miljah]

fishdoggy capitalism is why we are where we are.

[StealthPolarBear]

Coming on for another little chuckle big woman? It's getting even funnier

[PickleC]

Its depressing knowing that there will have been huge numbers voting based on immigration....not because they are actually impacted in any way but because they are told we should fear this 'tide' or something. There was some phone in a way back and the caller said we were definitely 'full' because it was getting hard to park in Waitrose on a saturday. Another time a leave voter was quoted as saying that hey it was fine....after Brexit if the ecinomy suffered they would just get a job in Germany instead. No recognition that things work two ways. I mean. You just struggle to deal with that logic. I don't recognise my country. I don't want to recognise it either right now.

[Gronky]

Off the top of my head, google 'women in Iran, 1970'. Just that. I expect they thought wearing a burka wasn't on the agenda.

Are you really equating the violent overthrow of a secular dictator with the consequences of No Deal?

Out yourself and give your accreditations or don’t laugh at others’ genuine fears

I would be very interested to see the accreditations of someone who genuinely believes that No Deal would result in actual war.

[Isthebigwomanhere]

I am not young or politically inept.
I'm just not a overly dramatic person, whom thinks that a different political view to the one they have means we will be heading into war .

I've not stockpiled food or medicine
I've not got an impending feeling of doom
I respect what people have voted for
But I honestly think the war comment is bloody hilarious 😂

[Newuseroftheweek]

But... history. No-one seems to know history anymore!

[CaptainNelson]

I'm terrified and depressed too. I've maintained contact with people who voted leave up till now, but increasingly I find myself avoiding them because their arguments are just strawmen and I find it so frustrating. This idea that we have democracy, or what they understand democracy to be, is such a farce. We're governed by global economics - if 2008 didn't show everyone that, I don't know what will - and the only way we have to buffer ourselves is to be part of something larger.
My poor kids, who are working so hard for their exams right now, looking forward to their futures as independent young men - it's unbearable.
re the war thing: Sadly war has always been a 'tool' to get countries out of economic woes. It also helps to refocus attention away from internal strife. I don't know what war we might be heading to, but the possibility of it becomes greater with every step we're taking towards leaving with no deal.

[ConfusedDotty]

Stealth. Nice that you apologised on behalf of axe. Thank you.

[StealthPolarBear]

Already declared my genuine accreditations. I have none. For the economic predictions tend to believe the economists. War was a question in my op.

[StealthPolarBear]

Ah don't be so bloody stupid

[fruitpastille]

I agree it is bad. However Dh says it's not actually much different to the last EU elections except that UKIP is now replaced by Brexit. And at least the lib dems have done well. If the remain vote wasnt split between green and lib dem vote that would help.