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Westminstenders: One Pepperoni Pizza Please. And a Milkshake To Go.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2019 21:03

On the Eve of the EU Elections that we never met to happen, and we don't know what the next hour next mind day might bring.

Farage is enjoying the theatre of milkshakes. It means he gets attention and gets to play the victim. And avoid talking about his dodgy friends and even dodgier financing. The Brexit Party are polling so highly its possible he could be PM. And boy does he know it. The temptation is there and its too much to resist.

May has refused to resign so far tonight after a day of asking her to. The 1922 Committee refused to change the rules to help oust her - possibly because they don't want the next PM to be beset with challenges to the leadership at the drop of a hat. Graham Brady is seeing her on Friday... The ERG are not happy bunnies.

May is still apparently planning to plough on with the WAB with a referendum possibly attached. Though this remains to be seen.

Meanwhile Leadsom has just quit the Cabinet. She was one of the Brexit 'Pizza Club'. Rumours are this might be the Cabinet withdrawing support for her. Though Gove has said he doesn't intend to resign (tonight at least).

Rumour is that May's senior staff have abandoned her to let her make the decision to go. And rumours are that when Leadsom rang May to tell her she was leaving cabinet, May didn't tell her senior staff. This comes two weeks after rumours where that Phillip May was at the point of telling her it was time to resign. The rumours of course may be just that, rumours but it's hard to see how or why anyone would tell her to carry on now.

And so tomorrow. Who would vote for this utter shower of shit? Even if you were the most loyal of Tories?

The thing tomorrow is to get the remain vote out. It doesn't matter ultimately what people vote for. Every vote cast for remain keeps the Brexit Party popular vote down. Even if it doesn't win seats. And that is psychologically important.

Tomorrow make sure EVERYONE you know who is anti brexit party votes. More so if they are a Remainer voting for a Remain party, but also if they are solid Labour or the rarest of things, a true blue.

It MATTERS. Narratives will be set.

If you are not sure if you are registered to vote, please TRY ANYWAY. The worst case is you are turned away and have lost 20 mins of your life. But you might also be able to vote and that might change the course of events.

Talk to people tomorrow. Remind them. Make sure it's about preventing a hard right foothold. Apathy will destroy our futures. Being fed up of politicians so refusing to vote is actively shooting yourself in the face.

Who am I voting for?

Still no idea. But I will vote.

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 15:54

Will Jennings @drjennings
If you want to speculate wildly about the #EuropeanElection2019 based on early turnout figures, then @PJHeneghan and @election_data have all the data you need in their feeds...

Ben Page, Ipsos MORI @benatipsosmori
To me looking at our turnout modelling it means Brexit party do well but not astonishingly well.

A pollster tempts fate...

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Moanranger · 24/05/2019 15:56

“Reversion to the mean” could apply with higher turn out, meaning the result could be closer to an average. Very small populations ( statistical populations) can result in outlier results, so higher turn out should end up reflecting the middle ground. I have always noticed that Brexiteers make a big noise, but when it comes to actually showing up (remember the 29 March damp squib?) tend to fizzle out.In contrast to the nearly 1 million Remainer March.
Or I could be completely wrong.

woman19 · 24/05/2019 16:00

I have always noticed that Brexiteers make a big noise, but when it comes to actually showing up (remember the 29 March damp squib?) tend to fizzle out
A metaphor for the Damien Green syndrome with which so many of them are afflicted?

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:00

Ian Warren @election_data
First numbers from London. Lambeth (79% Remain) has verified turnout of 42%, up 5.7% from 2014.

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Coquillage · 24/05/2019 16:03

Fintan O'Toole
@fotoole
So Britain's now had the two worst PMs in its history one straight after the other. The chances of a hat trick seem very high.

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:04

EalingCouncil @EalingCouncil
EU election - Thank you to everyone who voted yesterday. We have verified 100,429 ballots which is a 45.45% turnout in Ealing.

The votes will be counted on Sunday and announced after 10pm

+2% on 2014

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LonelyTiredandLow · 24/05/2019 16:05

For some men, yes

The ones that get to vote, which is all that matters.

We should also remember Farage has also cheated on his wife, walked away from car crashes, plane crashes and repeatedly not answered any tricky questions whatsoever - people who want Brexit At All Costs simply don't care.

Violetparis · 24/05/2019 16:07

Thanks for sharing all these numbers Red. A few years ago I would never have dreamt I would be so fascinated by the turnout numbers in an EU election. Do you or does anyone else know how the UK results will be announced ? Will all the candidates be on a public stage somewhere like normal elections ?

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:07

East Suffolk Council @EastSuffolk
^All the votes cast locally in the #EuropeanElection2019 have been verified and the official turnout for East Suffolk was 37.3%.
Counting will take place on Sunday once all votes across Europe have been cast. ^

Ian Warren @election_data
Wandsworth (75% Remain) has verified turnout of 47%, up by 8.2% from 2014.

KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR HILLINGDON.

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HazardGhost · 24/05/2019 16:10

Can someone PM me with the Boris stories if they can? Or a nudge in the Google direction. Ta.

1tisILeClerc · 24/05/2019 16:12

Farage doesn't want Brexit, he wants unrest, the more the better.
If you could have a life 'swanning around' chatting to people and not promising much, bankrolled by 'at least slightly' dodgy people and quietly making money on the volatility of the markets (part of his old gold trading activities as he obviously wasn't mining it personally), would you go for it?
Currently a sufficient teflon coating to slip out the back (oo err!) just before trouble starts.

ElenadeClermont · 24/05/2019 16:14

This is the scandal I saw: sorry about the Express link
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/671428/Boris-Johnson-Marina-Wheeler-drunken-romp-lawyer-Remain-campaign

Moanranger · 24/05/2019 16:17

Purely speculating here, but is the trend towards higher turn out associated with Remain areas? If that is the case ( and it may not be) then that would mean more middle ground voters have been motivated. If the trend is higher turn out for Leave areas, then I would deduct that Leave voters are more motivated. That is, the EU elections are pushing Remainers harder than Leavers. ( I know about Wales, but I expect that to be for Plaid Cymru)
I could well be suffering from observer bias, but the turn out numbers are giving me hope.

Icantreachthepretzels · 24/05/2019 16:19

Interesting about voter turnout being the biggest in Durham and Newcastle for the north east. Newcastle voted remain, I think - one of the big remainer cities of the north, but Durham - a university town - voted leave. BUT by June 23rd most of the students will have gone home whereas a month earlier - they are all still there and starting the glorious last three weeks of term, where there are no lectures and no exams and no essays to write. i.e there will be a significantly larger amount of remain leaning voters in Durham today (with not a whole lot to do) than there will be in a months time. Could account for their having a large increase in turnout.

I voted in my first ever election in Durham in 2005. I voted lib dem - though, of course, labour won that election ... happier times.

NoWordForFluffy · 24/05/2019 16:20

I'm hoping the same, @Moanranger!

lonelyplanetmum · 24/05/2019 16:30

Can someone PM me with the Boris stories if they can? Or a nudge in the Google direction. Ta.

The best Boris story is his mate Darius Guppy. Google Darius Guppy recording.

This is old but genuine- you can clearly hear BoJo acquiescing to planning criminal bodily harm.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=iDJWkS2A9T0

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:30

I realise I'm in a minority, but I don't really let a politician's private life affect my view of them as a politician.
I'm not considering any of them as a partner.

Totally different of course if there is sleaze in their professional life,
e.g. dodgy funding, associates or expenses, or any law-breaking, private or professional

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:35

Ian Warren @election_data
Hammersmith & Fulham (70% Remain) verified turnout is 45%, up by 4.6% on 2014.

Fenland Council @FenlandCouncil
The turnout for the #EuropeanElection2019 in the @FenlandCouncil area was 31.33%. The count will commence at 4pm on Sunday.

-2% on 2014

Ian Warren @election_data
Torfaen (60% Leave) has verified turnout at 33.7%, up 4.3% on 2014.

Hmm Wales is doing what the SW is doing. Going both remainy and brexitty.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:35

A few exceptions, e.g. abandoning their DC, not paying maintenance

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:36

I realise I'm in a minority, but I don't really let a politician's private life affect my view of them as a politician.

Until they start telling us how to live out lives. Then it's gloves off, fair game and fuck you. If they want to oversee a benefits system which demands of women whether they have been raped or not before they can access a benefit, then we can stick our noses into their lives and what they get up to with our taxes.

Peregrina · 24/05/2019 16:37

I'm hoping the same, @Moanranger!

Me to, and being in the South East it would really be the icing on the cake if Farage didn't top the poll. Oh, and if Hannan were not to get a seat at all that would add a cherry too.

We can but dream!

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:37

BCP Council @BCPCouncil
The official overall turnout figure for the South West region for the #EuropeanElection2019 have now been announced at 40.51% - see the full breakdown:

Westminstenders: One Pepperoni Pizza Please. And a Milkshake To Go.
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1tisILeClerc · 24/05/2019 16:38

{I'm not considering any of them as a partner.}
An image to ponder, that 'beaut' Cyril Smith in a mankini.
Struggling to mane any of similar stature at present.

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:39

I realise I'm in a minority, but I don't really let a politician's private life affect my view of them as a politician.

And for the record, Loathsome Leadsom crossed a spectacular line in 2016 when she tried to swing the " ... as a mother ..." line. It is the one sole thing I have every sympathy for Theresa May for. It was unacceptable at any time and say a lot more about Andrea Leadsom than she would like us to know.

prettybird · 24/05/2019 16:39

Does wasting millions on vanity projects like the Garden Bridge or more millions on purchasing illegal water cannons count as sleaze? Hmm

It's certainly a mis-use of public funds Angry