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Westminstenders: One Pepperoni Pizza Please. And a Milkshake To Go.

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RedToothBrush · 22/05/2019 21:03

On the Eve of the EU Elections that we never met to happen, and we don't know what the next hour next mind day might bring.

Farage is enjoying the theatre of milkshakes. It means he gets attention and gets to play the victim. And avoid talking about his dodgy friends and even dodgier financing. The Brexit Party are polling so highly its possible he could be PM. And boy does he know it. The temptation is there and its too much to resist.

May has refused to resign so far tonight after a day of asking her to. The 1922 Committee refused to change the rules to help oust her - possibly because they don't want the next PM to be beset with challenges to the leadership at the drop of a hat. Graham Brady is seeing her on Friday... The ERG are not happy bunnies.

May is still apparently planning to plough on with the WAB with a referendum possibly attached. Though this remains to be seen.

Meanwhile Leadsom has just quit the Cabinet. She was one of the Brexit 'Pizza Club'. Rumours are this might be the Cabinet withdrawing support for her. Though Gove has said he doesn't intend to resign (tonight at least).

Rumour is that May's senior staff have abandoned her to let her make the decision to go. And rumours are that when Leadsom rang May to tell her she was leaving cabinet, May didn't tell her senior staff. This comes two weeks after rumours where that Phillip May was at the point of telling her it was time to resign. The rumours of course may be just that, rumours but it's hard to see how or why anyone would tell her to carry on now.

And so tomorrow. Who would vote for this utter shower of shit? Even if you were the most loyal of Tories?

The thing tomorrow is to get the remain vote out. It doesn't matter ultimately what people vote for. Every vote cast for remain keeps the Brexit Party popular vote down. Even if it doesn't win seats. And that is psychologically important.

Tomorrow make sure EVERYONE you know who is anti brexit party votes. More so if they are a Remainer voting for a Remain party, but also if they are solid Labour or the rarest of things, a true blue.

It MATTERS. Narratives will be set.

If you are not sure if you are registered to vote, please TRY ANYWAY. The worst case is you are turned away and have lost 20 mins of your life. But you might also be able to vote and that might change the course of events.

Talk to people tomorrow. Remind them. Make sure it's about preventing a hard right foothold. Apathy will destroy our futures. Being fed up of politicians so refusing to vote is actively shooting yourself in the face.

Who am I voting for?

Still no idea. But I will vote.

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woman19 · 24/05/2019 16:39

High turnout in places with very strong pro EU grassroots groups, I see.

TatianaLarina · 24/05/2019 16:41

I realise I'm in a minority, but I don't really let a politician's private life affect my view of them as a politician.

This is true for me if I like them. If I don’t I’m quite happy to use it to sling mud. Boris deserves all the mud he gets. 😬

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:42

Ian Warren @election_data
Bristol (62% Remain) has verified turnout of 44.6% in the #EuropeanElections2019 , up 8% from 2014.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:42

Main consolation for me will be the likely annihilation of the Tories
I'd rejoice especially at a single digit % vote

All this shit is 100% their fault

prettybird · 24/05/2019 16:42

There is, unfortunately, zero possibility that Faragit won't win an MEP seat Sad

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:43

Main consolation for me will be the likely annihilation of the Tories

Which is a little like saying WW2 was made up for by losing some pig ugly buildings Sad

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:44

There is, unfortunately, zero possibility that Faragit won't win an MEP seat

Doesn't that preclude him from standing in a UK parliamentary election ?

1tisILeClerc · 24/05/2019 16:45

Flogging the water cannons might have been a mistake, Brexit isn't resolved yet.
It's one way to wash milkshake off.

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:45

Which is a little like saying WW2 was made up for by losing some pig ugly buildings

Three words for you:

Post War Coventry.

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BestIsWest · 24/05/2019 16:45

What’s going on in WAles? I’m expecting Plaid to do well as well as LDs.

Having done a little poll among regular Lab voters, most voted PC or LD.

Interestingly the two Brexiters in the offices voted Labour (so they say).

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:45

"wasting millions on vanity projects"

counts as professional incompetence and unfitness for office, not sleaze

Also landing a British women in a longer prison sentenceAngry

Also (Grayling) making mistakes in all his ministerial jobs that have cost the country 2.5 billion quid Angry

RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:45

Doesn't that preclude him from standing in a UK parliamentary election ?

He can always quit. Nige is good at quitting.

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 16:47

(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges
Being told early Euro-election postal vote and turnout returns looking good for Lib Dems and poor for Labour.

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1tisILeClerc · 24/05/2019 16:48

{There is, unfortunately, zero possibility that Faragit won't win an MEP seat}
Isn't the EU investigating him for anything?
Marine Le Pen has been fined €300,000 for incorrect accounting when she was an MP/MEP.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:49

DG I didn't say a Tory wipeout would be worth all this shit, just that it was the main consolation I could find

btw, didn't you used to say that Brexit might be worth it if it meant the permanent destruction of the Tory party ?

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:49

Post War Coventry.

One of my favourite museums ... if you like secular reflection, the section on reconciliation, and the 1960s photos of German teenagers coming over to help rebuilding is a powerful message for all time.

Tanith · 24/05/2019 16:50

I didn't cry over Theresa - I must be hardhearted.

Then I read this: But who will pour the tea now? asked Mog sadly

Perhaps I'm not so hardhearted after all Sad

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:52

btw, didn't you used to say that Brexit might be worth it if it meant the permanent destruction of the Tory party ?

I did. But it's a consolation prize.

Peregrina · 24/05/2019 16:53

Farage is certain to win a seat, but it will still be good to see the LibDems and Greens do well, which I sincerely hope they do. And if Remain parties get a bigger percentage in the south east than the Brexit party it might help to stop his mouth up.

prettybird · 24/05/2019 16:55

He only needs to quit if he wins an MP seat.

The EU would, no doubt, be glad to see the back of him.

And anyway, at the moment, it looks like we'll be "choosing" Hmm to leave, whether Parliament or the population at large wants it or not (according to that IoG article) at the end of October. Sad

DGRossetti · 24/05/2019 16:56

Whilst The Waste Land might be more appropriate, thinking of Coventry does curry hope ...

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:57

I'm really interested to see which, if any, of the pollsters predicted the result reasonably accurately,
at least within the standard +/-3% error margin.

Obviously a challenge to forecast % for a brand new party, some of whose voters previously didn't vote, so have no track record.
especially now the 2 main parties appear to be in vote meltdown

The pollsters must be waiting for the EP results with as much anxiety as any politician Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 16:58

I mean national vote shares, not seats

ElenadeClermont · 24/05/2019 16:58

Where can I find the turnout figures? My council has not published them, or I can't find them.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/05/2019 17:00

From that Institute for Govt link upthread:

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/new-prime-minister-intent-no-deal-brexit-cant-be-stopped-mps-0

^ It looks like a near impossible task for MPs to stop a prime minister who is determined to leave the EU without a deal.^

Parliamentary procedure offers no route, and the only apparent way to blocking no deal – a vote of no confidence – would be a massive gamble for Tory MPs.