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Would it be illegal to give away free milkshakes...

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AllTheBoysToTheYard · 20/05/2019 20:43

... in the very near vicinity of "Tommy Robinson" and similar wherever they campaign?

Asking for a friend.

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time4chocolate · 23/05/2019 15:43

Two true statements, they are mardy and clothes can be dry cleaned, what is the problem?
Some very 'uppity' 'winners' around here, even if they have no idea what they have won

Who are a 'mardy lot' - this veteran?

I'm not seeing uppity 'winners' I'm seeing a lot of remainers clearly rattled by the Brexit Party and trying to justify milkshake throwing. WTAF!

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 15:48

I'm not justifying the throwing of milkshake, it's a waste of milkshake for a start.
Those who would like to remain in the EU are not 'rattled' by the Brexit party but can see what a complete and utter disaster it will be for the UK to vote in a party with NO plans and as the few weeks have gone by their narrative changes.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 15:48

Was he wearing a label saying "I am an army veteran." I haven't got a clue about an apparent non cross post or a two hour time delay. I didn't read the link following if that's relevant. No he just looked like a mardy elderly man who had had something chucked at him, which whilst unpleasant will wash off. Farage and Co's unpleasant views don't wash out, and inspire extreme right wingers to murder. Farage himself being slippery and slidy then tries to pretend it was nothing to do with me Gov.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 15:51

Farage is mardy. Think of those MPs who put up with death threats or rape threats, and carry on trying to do their jobs, and he has a tantrum because someone throws a milkshake over him.

time4chocolate · 23/05/2019 16:11

Was he wearing a label saying "I am an army veteran." I haven't got a clue about an apparent non cross post or a two hour time delay. I didn't read the link following if that's relevant. No he just looked like a mardy elderly man who had had something chucked at him, which whilst unpleasant will wash off

Peregrina wow, thanks for that clarification - genuinely Shock Shock. I need to step back from this thread otherwise I may go off on one.

Nesssie · 23/05/2019 16:19

Nigel Farage has never assaulted anyone or threatened to, so everyone who throws milkshake or thinks its a great idea is worse than Nigel Farage. And do you really want to be worse than Nigel Farage?

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 16:20

I would rather see someone go off on one about MPs being threatened when they are trying to do the jobs for which they were elected. Farage note - you were elected as an MEP and have had one of the worst attendance records, and so far I have not heard of any of you or your kind receiving death threats.

Gronky · 23/05/2019 16:25

I'm not a solicitor but (in my opinion) and politics aside it seems like, prior to 2007, you'd possibly have been in the clear because it was not a direct incitement but it would currently be an inchoate offence. This is because you have demonstrated awareness of how you might be assisting in the commission of a crime. Interestingly, even if no milkshakes were thrown, you would still be liable because you were aware of the possibility that your actions would be of assistance.

Furthermore, because Mumsnet is a publicly accessible forum, you may have already run afoul of the Communications Act because your messages may constitute a threat. However, it's less clear whether this only covers direct threats rather than threats to commit an inchoate offence.

Again, this is my personal opinion.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 16:26

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-brexit-rifle-pick-up-uk-eu-withdrawal-ukip-leader-liberal-democrat-a7741331.html

He said in May 2016: "I think it's legitimate to say that if people feel they have lost control completely, and we have lost control of our borders completely as members of the EU, and if people feel that voting doesn't change anything then violence is the next step." This is apparently taken out of context!

That's not a threat then? Except that he's a blabbermouth and the only things he picks up are his fags and beer glasses.

The young lad who originally threw his milkshake at 'Tommy Robinson' and his supporters was being harassed by them and so let fly. Two wrongs don't make a right but it was understandable.

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 16:35

{I think it's legitimate to say that if people feel they have lost control completely, and we have lost control of our borders completely as members of the EU}

Even that is bollocks. The UK DID (does) have borders. Very strong ones with all countries outside the EU and a 'preferential' border with others in the EU where only the hint of ID etc is necessary. It is enforced more strongly than the Schengen countries.

Southwestten · 23/05/2019 17:20

No he just looked like a mardy elderly man who had had something chucked at him, which whilst unpleasant will wash off.

Having something chucked at you would be extremely unpleasant and would have given this elderly man a bad shock.
Peregrina did you just think it ‘will wash off’ when someone threw an egg at John Prescott?

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 17:26

Well I did think it would wash off yes, but then Prescott went and thumped the man back. I don't remember whether they were both done for assault, and it wasn't very dignified of Prescott as an MP. I think at an earlier time Harold Wilson was able to make a joke of having an egg thrown at him.

Jo Cox was murdered, MPs have had death and rape threats. Throwing milkshakes just does not compare to this.

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 17:29

I have had an egg thrown at me while I was on a train. Not a big deal unless you use hot water for a shower as it would be hard getting omelette out of your hair.
Still not condoning throwing things.

Peregrina · 23/05/2019 17:33

Nor am I condoning it. Farage did have a point about his security people, not stopping it - it could have been worse than a milkshake but a better man than Farage would have been able to make a joke.

I don't think Farage does jokes though, certainly couldn't take one against himself.

1tisILeClerc · 23/05/2019 17:49

{Farage did have a point about his security people}
They were so inept it almost looks as if the incident was planned (by
Farage).

JQBased · 23/05/2019 18:06

There's some right weirdos on MN. Here is an idea, get in to politics and get involved in the party or stand independent for the ideological views you align with...It won't make any difference in the world of "democracy", but see how you feel when people pelt you milkshakes because they radically oppose your views and want to live in a world that restricts the freedom your grandparents and ancestors fought and perished for over the ages so you can stand here today and tell people that they are not allowed to be heard. You should probably take time to think about whether you want to live in a free country or not, because there are plenty of countries you can move to that utterly restrict freedom of speech that is not in live with the ruling establishment.

PremierNaps · 23/05/2019 18:20

👀 this thread. I believe people who pelt others with milkshakes (such as that poor old bloody man) are incompetent of dealing with their emotions in a reasonable manner. Perhaps they were emotionally stunted as children. Who knows. OP though is kind of worse because OP is the bully child in the background who doesn't get their hands dirty, they would rather laugh at other people's expense while supplying the weapons to other people 🙄 grow up.

Nesssie · 23/05/2019 18:24

PremierNaps summed it up perfectly.
There is no grey area, violence is violence, assault is assault.

MockerstheFeManist · 23/05/2019 18:27

Farage's Security

The ones paid for by Banks (and indirectly by the Kremlin.)

SinisterBumFacedCat · 23/05/2019 18:48

What a bunch of Farage lovers on this thread!

Worse things are happening to people in this country every day thanks to Farage/Yaxley-Lennon and the Brexit vote emboldening bigotry, a special needs school has been targeted by vandalism specifically since the Brexit vote, the rise in rape threats, the burning of the Grenfell effigy by racist idiots, frankly i’m more bothered about that, but if you want to carry on protecting precious little facists go ahead.

Gronky · 23/05/2019 19:05

SinisterBumFacedCat

Tu quoque

Tanith · 23/05/2019 23:36

There seem to be some conflicting accounts of our milky veteran.

Would it be illegal to give away free milkshakes...
SinisterBumFacedCat · 24/05/2019 08:00

Do you know, I think the way politics is heading I think in the not too distant future we will look back wistfully on the days when the worst thing you could be hit with was a milkshake.

RubberTreePlant · 24/05/2019 08:04

I don't think assaulting people is helpful, whoever they are.

CherryPavlova · 24/05/2019 08:17

Maybe give free milkshakes to people in another part of the towns he is visiting. That way people might refrain from going to see/hear him and stop giving him air time.

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