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Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society

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RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:30

We've had a new thread pretty much everyday for the last week or so, so I'm short on inspiration.

There haven't been too many new developments today. There have been two ministerial resignations. Both were ministers close to Boris Johnson.

We had a vote to add an extension if we still have no deal agreed at the end of next week to the Withdrawal Bill. May has said she will do this anyway; this would merely tie her hands. It passed by 5 votes. It now is fast tracked to the committee stage and third reading.

A business of the house amendment by Benn to secure a debate and Indicative Vote 3 next week failed after a speakers vote. Bercow followed convention and didn't create a majority where there was not one (though under Erskine May he is free to do the opposite at his discretion).

Corbyn has met May for talks which have been described as construction, though we have no further details though curiously Emily Thornberry put out a statement demanding a ref on whatever was decided which suggests Corbyn isn't keen on the idea. Rumours are of Schrodingers Customs Union: somehow being in a union but not a union. It can't be called a customs union. And Liam Fox has said Corbyn can't have his union. Though he may have a vested interest as he loses his job if Corbyn gets his way.

Oh and the Commons photocopier broke so no one knows what is currently supposed to be happening.

Otherwise it's been a quiet day, all things considered. Too quiet?

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Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 23:33

It still has to go through the Lords.

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 23:34

Thanks bigchocFlowers

NoWordForFluffy · 03/04/2019 23:34

Lords shouldn't be a problem.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 23:34

i read some Brexiter lords, e.g. Lawson, plan to filibuster any bill that would prevent No Deal

Apparently Lords are allowed to speak as long as they want and there is no means to make someone stfu

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 23:34

Thanks finishersFlowers

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 23:35

It will sail through the Lords.

Sostenueto · 03/04/2019 23:35

Nite nite all! Happy dreams!

PreppaPig · 03/04/2019 23:35

I don't think no deal is off the table. Didn't this bill just say that May has to request an extension from the EU. Doesn't mean they will grant us another one...

Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 23:36

@faisalislam

Now it goes to the House of Lords tomorrow where it is expected to pass in one day... speaker says it doesn’t need Royal Consent - seems likely to become Act...

Mark Francois says this is a “constitutional outrage” - “forgive them father for they know not what they do”

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 23:36

Right should I watch walking dead or go to bed?

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 23:36

Jack Maidment
@jrmaidment
What happens next:

Lords likely to debate and vote on Cooper bill tomorrow. Everything done in one day.

Bill gets Royal Assent on Monday.

PM tables motion on Tuesday with proposed date of extension, MPs vote on it.

PM goes to EU summit to ask for it on Wednesday.

horseshit · 03/04/2019 23:37

Belinda That’s enough Bill Cash for one day Grin

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 23:38

Oh God help me Iam watching Peston.

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 23:38

There's a 'mood of the House' tradition in the Lords which can potentially move things to a vote if the House desires. I don't know how often it's used though. But time is of the essence.

And obviously the EU can say No anyway.

OogieMcBoogie · 03/04/2019 23:40

Thanks Preppa. So, Juncker has already confirmed today that there will be no extension past the 12th unless we have a concrete plan...how will this bill work if May has nothing to present other than her cap in her hand next week? Sorry if I’m being a bit slow on the uptake here, it’s late Blush

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 23:41

Oh horseshit thank you. I am howling at that. Good night all.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 23:41

Excellent
So the Brexit Lords cunning plan will go the way of all their other cunning plans !

Yes, we'd be dependent on the EU granting an extension, but at least it's a lifeline

... and making all those Brexiters spit feathers has got to be a win ! 😂

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 23:43

Boogie Maybe Treeza will do her boogie in front of them, if she can't think of anything to say
Her dancing has caused much amusement, so they might not want to lose her

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 23:46

Bottom line, she has to agree a public vote with Corbyn.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 23:46

Cooper's speech afterwards was very graceful, thanking Boles & Letwin

Maybe Corbyn could take her to the talks with May

tobee · 03/04/2019 23:50

Belinda I think you might need a mug of coco to help you come down from your high.

The adjournment debate is still going on. A kind of parliamentary equivalent of vaping.

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 23:53

Faisal Islam
@faisalislam
It will be amusing to see all those who got very angry with Lords votes telling peers to accept the will of the elected House cheering on the amendments and attempts to talk out by ... the Lords!!

Filibustering will be limited by House voting ‘a member may no longer be heard’

BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 23:54

PV as controversial as ever. Political boiling hot potato:

Peston@itvpeston

Chancellor @PhilipHammondUK says there is a credible case for a confirmatory referendum and it deserves to be tested in Parliament.
......

Kevin Schofield@PolhomeEditor

At tonight’s special meeting of the Shadow Cabinet, Ian Lavery said “this party could be finished by a People’s Vote”

and warned Jeremy Corbyn he would be the leader who split Labour if he backed one.

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 23:54

Faisal Islam
@faisalislam
Expectation though is that after a long time and unlimited number of votes and amendments, there are overwhelming numbers in the Lords to get the Cooper Letwin bill passed “after a very long night”.

Belindabelle · 03/04/2019 23:56

If only BigChocFrenzy.

A Labour Party with Yvette Cooper at the helm I could get behind. Rebecca Long Bailey not so much.

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