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Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society

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RedToothBrush · 03/04/2019 19:30

We've had a new thread pretty much everyday for the last week or so, so I'm short on inspiration.

There haven't been too many new developments today. There have been two ministerial resignations. Both were ministers close to Boris Johnson.

We had a vote to add an extension if we still have no deal agreed at the end of next week to the Withdrawal Bill. May has said she will do this anyway; this would merely tie her hands. It passed by 5 votes. It now is fast tracked to the committee stage and third reading.

A business of the house amendment by Benn to secure a debate and Indicative Vote 3 next week failed after a speakers vote. Bercow followed convention and didn't create a majority where there was not one (though under Erskine May he is free to do the opposite at his discretion).

Corbyn has met May for talks which have been described as construction, though we have no further details though curiously Emily Thornberry put out a statement demanding a ref on whatever was decided which suggests Corbyn isn't keen on the idea. Rumours are of Schrodingers Customs Union: somehow being in a union but not a union. It can't be called a customs union. And Liam Fox has said Corbyn can't have his union. Though he may have a vested interest as he loses his job if Corbyn gets his way.

Oh and the Commons photocopier broke so no one knows what is currently supposed to be happening.

Otherwise it's been a quiet day, all things considered. Too quiet?

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BigChocFrenzy · 03/04/2019 22:18

Wow, Nick Boles revealing a nasty secret Shock

An important one too; that a Brexiter is controlling communications from the PM's office

Keep 'em coming, Nick, if there's anything else we should know

AutumnCrow · 03/04/2019 22:18

She could have avoided this months ago by going for No Deal and just running down the time

But that's effectively what it appears she's been doing, with her millionaire buffer, till yesterday. And now it's too late, hence today.

It's certainly 'interesting' to be living through history, is it not?

woman19 · 03/04/2019 22:19

If talks have broken down and the HoC have not voted in favour of anything, then the EU will not give an extension just to prolong the agony

Which is what will probably happen.

We will have to leave with 'no deal' but hopefully the EU will be stronger as a result.

SassyBadger · 03/04/2019 22:20

Love Nick Boles' post resignation bluntness!

CordeliaEarhart · 03/04/2019 22:20

I've been wondering if Boles is making the government aware that he knows some dirty secrets and is more than willing to share them.

tobee · 03/04/2019 22:20

Tried googling to find out what amendment 21 was about. Can't work it out.

Came on here to say that The George Eustice Amendment sounds like a 70s prog rock band.

TheMShip · 03/04/2019 22:21

I'm watching the classic Rowan Atkinson stand up show with the wedding speeches while waiting for the main vote. Grin

woman19 · 03/04/2019 22:22

This 'no deal' is choreographed worse than Pans People.
( for older viewers Wink)

@itvpeston
Chancellor @PhilipHammondUK says there is a credible case for a confirmatory referendum and it deserves to be tested in Parliament.

Unescorted · 03/04/2019 22:22

The guardian had been reporting that the bill was voted down - I had a heart in mouth moment.

woman19 · 03/04/2019 22:23

MPs reject Cooper bill at third stage

MPs have rejected the Cooper bill at Committee stage by 304:313.

Stilltalkstotrees · 03/04/2019 22:25

Amendments

Westminstenders: The Bill Cash Appreciation Society
BoreOfWhabylon · 03/04/2019 22:26

Pmk

finishers · 03/04/2019 22:26

Wow so really the cooper amendment now rejected?

horseshit · 03/04/2019 22:27

woman they’re only on the second amendment, whoever reported that got it wrong.

Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 22:27

I thought it was an amendment to the Bill that was rejected.

woman19 · 03/04/2019 22:27

Nope! finishers
Guardian update:

"just made an error: the vote hasn’t failed, an amendment by the former minister George Eustice was just defeated by 304 ayes to 313 noes.

The amendment would have prevented the government from being forced to hold a vote if the European Council proposes an extension date different than that requested by parliament.

Profuse apologies. The previous post has been deleted."

GaspodeWonderCat · 03/04/2019 22:27

Guardian got confused. Both amendments defeated. Next up amendment 1 and the fun continues ...

EweSurname · 03/04/2019 22:28

Peston
@itvpeston
Chancellor @PhilipHammondUK says there is a credible case for a confirmatory referendum and it deserves to be tested in Parliament.

Watch the full interview on @ITV and Twitter at 10.45pm #Peston

dreichuplands · 03/04/2019 22:28

The guardian got confused and then withdrew and apologized.

finishers · 03/04/2019 22:28

Thanks woman19

tobee · 03/04/2019 22:28

Was amendment 22 a big government defeat or am I going doolally? Confused

Littlespaces · 03/04/2019 22:28

Follow @ParlyApp on twitter for up to date news.

finishers · 03/04/2019 22:29

It is all so confusing though can't blame he guardian for making an error at this time of night Smile

woman19 · 03/04/2019 22:30

Sounds like the PV pressure's got to Jezza. "today's talks did not go as well as initially thought"

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horseshit · 03/04/2019 22:30

Amendment 1 is a big one that would sink the whole bill.
As for the government amendment, didn’t Barclay have a point when he said without it an accidental no deal would be more likely? It was voted down by a huge majority (180), but if he’s right the likes of Cash could essentially filibuster their way into No Deal...

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