Dominic Grieve deselection meeting - frightening

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You may not get to the end of this. Watch what happens when someone tells facts to people who don't want to hear.

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I watched this earlier, and you’re right, couldn’t even watch to the end. Made my blood run cold. Saw a tweet from an association member in Beaconsfield earlier describing influx of 200+ new members in past year. And of course the leader of movement to unseat Dominic Grieve is ex-UKIP candidate, who was apparently recruited by the Conservatives following his involvement in Vote Leave campaign. If a man with the intellectual capacity, gravitas and capability of Grieve isn’t safe in the Conservatives, God help us all.

I really, really wish that the lovely, kind, not racist, Leave voters would open their eyes and see what they are enabling

Completely agree with you @KennDodd.

Shocking
The Tory party is being taken over by the far right thugs, deliberately infiltrating

Comparatively easy when Tory membership is so low for a major party
It's even less than the SNP, which is just a Scottish party

Really worrying that candidates and therefore Parliament can be potentially compromised/deselected in this way. I really worry about the future of this country.

He wasn't representing his constituency. What did he expect?
Glad to see the back of him.

How horrible. Is there anything the Tory party can do about this?

His constituency votes remain.

Voted

I believe the Conservative Party (the national one) could intervene.

Walkingdeaddfangirl I completely agree that Grieve wouldn't have been representing the 150 entryists who are more aligned with UKIP than the intelligent Conservatism espoused by him.

He wasn't representing his constituency.

MPs are supposed to represent all their constituents, including (in Grieve's case) the 51% of voters in Beaconsfield who voted to remain.

Please god central office intervenes. I seriously hope this is an association gone rogue as you sometimes see with Labour.
Disagree with him or not, it's obvious he is an intelligent thoughtful non bullshit kind of person who deserves respect.

2017 Election Result

Grieve (Con) - 36,559 (65.3%)
Conway (UKIP) - 1,609 (2.9%)

Will he become independent?

Frightening

walkingdead his constituency voted Remain. How do you then work out that his stance isn't representing them?

Really worrying that candidates and therefore Parliament can be potentially compromised/deselected in this way. I really worry about the future of this country.

Particularly worrying when a leadership election is coming up and the new PM will be chosen by the tiny number of Conservative members. Polling consistently shows the membership is very right wing so a candidate to the right is likely to be a shoo-in over a more moderate candidate. I'm incredulous that our country's leadership could be decided by such a tiny minority of people.

My MP is Kate Hoey, who is one of the madder Brexiteers. Her constituency voted overwhelmingly to remain. She gives not a shiny shit about representing the views of her constituents.

He's 62. He may decide to walk away from it all.

But if he decides to stand and fight, he could turn TIG and win.

Ironic if Beaconsfield turned out to be the place Disraeli's One Nation party died.

incredulous that our country's leadership could be decided by such a tiny minority of people

Yes and a disproportionate number of loons in that tiny minority:

Do we really know facts about Jon Conway - the Tory trying to oust Grieve?

• Conway is really a UKIP member standing for them as recently as 2017
• He stood against Grieve in 2017 and got just 1,609 votes compared with Grieve’s 36,559.
• Conway purports to be a 'writer'
• He weirdly went nosing around with James Hewitt trying to get gossip on Diana.
• He then produced and starred in a conspiracy theory play about her.

By contrast all Grieve has been quietly trying to do is uphold the law and proper Parliamentary process. He has been Attorney General, member of the Privy Council, is a barrister and QC.

Far be it from me to defend Tories ..as I'm generally not a fan. But Grieve is far more statesmen like and a better sort of Tory than some weird UKIP self publicist.

Although if more UKIP invade the Tory party perhaps they will split!

He wasn't representing his constituency.

This only applies to Remain MPs in Leave constituencies. Leavers are silent about Leave MPs who don't represent Remain constituencies, like Hoey, or Redwood. The fact that they are representatives, not delegates escapes them. We are then usually treated to a lecture about "this is democracy, what don't we understand?"

I sincerely hope that the Tory Central Office has a way of censuring or expelling this local party.

Am I missing something? Are you shocked by the heckling?

Indeed Peregrina. This always only goes one way. I'm also appalled by leavers' 'definition' of democracy that stops at the will of the majority. You can have the will of the majority reflected in a dictatorship. Democracy is characterised by how the minority is dealt with. If the minority gets no representation it's just mob rule. (I've had that argument with very educated people who fail to grasp that point before anyone accuses me of calling leavers thick...)

I’m going to send Grieve an email to thank him for his stance. He is a true statesman. Those wanting to deselect him are UKIP supporters.