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What would a second referendum question be???

32 replies

Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:06

Just that. If there is a second referendum what would the question be???

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OhMrTumnus · 13/03/2019 20:08

Trying to understand the whole shitshow, I guess it would need to be May's deal or remain, but then you'd need to weave something in about the N Irish backstop?

KitKat1985 · 13/03/2019 20:13

I was talking to DH about this just now. I think we need a 3 option referendum:

Option 1) Remain and cancel Brexit.
Option 2) Leave with no deal.
Option 3) Accept the deal negotiated by May.

Otherwise this will just go on forever.

Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:13

Would no deal be part of the referendum? Surely the questions are much to complicated to be a referendum? (which is why I don't think there should have been one in the first place!)

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Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:13

X post.

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gamerwidow · 13/03/2019 20:14

A) stop the madness and revoke article 50
B) continue with madness for eternity

gamerwidow · 13/03/2019 20:16

We don’t need a referendum we need a leader with the courage to say ‘look we’ve tried this from all angles and no deal is going to be better than remain so we’re staying’.

catdogcatdog · 13/03/2019 20:16

@KitKat1985 but what happens if options 2&3 gain more votes that option 1- so more people still vote to leave the EU combined?
Would we ignore the greater wish to leave, and remain within the EU anyway?

Parky04 · 13/03/2019 20:16

The question should be no deal or remain.

redredrobins · 13/03/2019 20:17

The 3 questions would split the leave vote and would therefore result in remain. So the 3 question vote would never be allowed.

Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:18

And what if more options for leaving are put on the table before any referendum? May need to resign and someone needs to step up and say enoughs enough, we're staying.

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KitKat1985 · 13/03/2019 20:20

Good point Catdog.

Maybe a better option is a two question referendum along the lines of:

Q1) Do you want to leave or remain?

Q2) If the event more voters prefer to leave, would you rather leave with no deal or with the deal on offer?

In the event there are more leave voters, then you accept the majority answer to question 2 (obviously if remain won Q2 would be redundant).

Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:22

Dear God don't let no deal be an option. Someone needs to save the public from their stupidity.

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keepforgettingmyusername · 13/03/2019 20:25

TM alluded to this in her speech after the vote. I think the choice would be between her deal and no Brexit.

tilder · 13/03/2019 20:26

They will not get a deal that the EU says yes to and commands a majority in parliament.

If has always been no deal or remain. Just nobody was honest enough to admit it.

Shit show.

Parky04 · 13/03/2019 20:27

If Remain is on the ballot paper then it's only fair that no deal is on it as well. IMO Remain would win pretty comfortably.

tilder · 13/03/2019 20:30

And controversial to say, but I have yet to see somebody who is sensible say no deal would be a good idea.

The only ones who seem to want a no deal are the hard line ERG and random people polled in the street who, with all due respect, seem to neither appreciate the risks or have the finance to weather no deal.

Lottapianos · 13/03/2019 20:30

'If Remain is on the ballot paper then it's only fair that no deal is on it as well. IMO'

No Deal is NOT A THING. Do not give people the chance to make yet another catastrophic decision. If there is another vote, it has to be May's shitty deal or Remain and try to salvage some dignity

NoWordForFluffy · 13/03/2019 20:41

The only ones who seem to want a no deal are the hard line ERG and random people polled in the street who, with all due respect, seem to neither appreciate the risks or have the finance to weather no deal.

And the latter is why no deal shouldn't be on there!

33goingon64 · 13/03/2019 20:41

I've obviously missed something here, I thought today's vote was to rule out no deal, so how could that be on a ballot paper?

Ffsnosexallowed · 13/03/2019 20:50

Well @33goingon64, by that reasoning mays deal shouldn't be on the referendum either, because it's been voted against, more than once.

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CoffeeRunner · 13/03/2019 20:53

It would have to be:

A) Leave on the deal already on the table (the best the EU will offer).

B) Remain.

Gronky · 13/03/2019 21:55

Leaving no deal off the ballot or constructing a poll in such a way that the Leave vote would be split to favour Remain would be very dangerous politically. Imagine UKIP as it currently is (which I would personally characterise as the BNP in all but name, given its unsavoury associations) being handed double or even triple digit numbers of MPs.

I realise Wikipedia isn't a good source in general terms but, for the sake of easy data tabulation, this table is quite telling:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum_by_constituency

It's a somewhat arbitrary threshold but I count 32 constituencies where the Leave vote exceeded 60% and the incumbent MP's majority (at the time) was 10% or less.

TheNumberfaker · 14/03/2019 00:32

Agree with CoffeeRunner.
Whatever the latest deal approved by Rest of EU is v Remain a full EU member.

AornisHades · 14/03/2019 00:35

a) remain
b) mythical deal and unicorns

BeersTonight2000 · 14/03/2019 02:16

Question should be

Leave with WA (which is remain in my view)

Leave with no deal

Remain should be an option as decision to leave was made in 2016