It’s not what I want!!!!

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When will she realise she does not speak for us all.
She is hell bent on herself and delivering what she wants to save face.

This is not about what is best for the country - it’s about her.

How can she be stopped?

Brexit is one of these things that has as many sides to it as a 50p. Unfortunately we aren’t made aware of the ins and outs. I think for as many of us who think one way there are equal amounts who think the other. I would say to save sanity, try not to focus too much on what the media pump out, its not always true and causes so much stress.

It's not what millions of us want but we are the ignored.

TM occasionally mentions bringing the country together but does and says nothing to reach out to the 48%. Never has. It's all regurgitation of spin about taking back 'control' (ha ha) and that 80% of the country voted for a Brexit party. In Scotland it's different- but in England we are the ignored minority. I honestly believe we are on a path to Scottish independence, Irish reunification. In the new little England we will be stuck perhaps still with Wales, progressively descending into a Trumpesque vision.

It angers me so much when she talks about the “overwhelming majority”. This is just not true. May has no idea what people in the country are actually thinking, she cares only about Conservative party members. It’s always party first for her, everything she does is aimed at avoiding a split in the tories hence why she won’t budge on her red lines.

So true that she has done nothing to reach out to remainers in the past 2 or so years. But then has the nerve to say she’s now looking for consensus. She’s a divisive politician, with some obsession over stopping immigration because she failed to do so as Home Secretary.

with some obsession over stopping immigration because she failed to do so as Home Secretary.

Agreed.

It’s nothing about “saving face” , it’s about the fact that 17.4 million people voted to leave the EU and won the democratic vote.

I voted leave. I would vote for it again too.

How do you think it is going Red wine?

What signs of growth, prosperity investment and boom do you see?
Do you think we will return to or ascend from our position as the 5 th strongest economy?

She really came across as an utter numpty and I can’t imagine who that little speech was meant to rouse.

She should have done cross party consultation two and a half years ago, she shouldn’t have triggered article 50 with no fucking idea or plan, she has dragged it out and dragged it out - it’s the last minute, many voters have realised no great deal is to be had- we’re going down the pan and it’s a disgrace.

Why doesn't a point come when the politicians and the people both say when something is this divisive, this lacking in consensus, this disruptive, so impoverishing, perhaps it just isn't the right thing to do. Not now, not in this way.

If it was the right thing to do there would be some positive signs of growth and investment and a greater vision and consensus.

In Scotland it's different- but in England we are the ignored minority.
Hahahahaha this might be the funniest thing I’ve read on here -Scotland is being dragged out of the EU by the very goverment that told us the only way to stay in Europe was to vote No in the Indy Ref. And here we are.....

I may have read that wrong sorry. However the remainders in Scotland are no different from remainders in England. We are ignored we are in minority. I don’t think there is the appetite yet for Indy Ref 2 but with No Deal it might push it over the line

Scotland is being dragged out of the EU by the very goverment that told us the only way to stay in Europe was to vote No in the Indy Ref. And here we are.....

Yes completely agreed. I also agree that Scotland is completely ignored by Westminster.

What I meant was that in Scotland there are lots of politicians to at least speak up for Remainers and there is a majority in Scotland and a consensus that Remain is the only path.

In England it feels like there's no one in the top tier to speak for you. Theresa May goes on and on about delivering what 'the people' want but 16 million plus of us have no weighty mouthpiece. It's like we aren't people.

Caroline Lucas is great but it's a party of 1 MP. Vince Cable seems tired to me. ..

England is the ignored minority?
Ha.
NI is represented by mouthy gammon dinosaurs who are bot speaking for the overwhelming majority of NI voters who voted Remain.

She should have done cross party consultation two and a half years ago, she shouldn’t have triggered article 50 with no fucking idea or plan, she has dragged it out and dragged it out - it’s the last minute, many voters have realised no great deal is to be had- we’re going down the pan and it’s a disgrace.

Exactly.

It’s the will of some people (a minority of the population, but majority of those who voted). It’s not my will.

Whatever happens, every view should have some sort of representation.

I agree this relentless, pig-headed banging on about 'the will of the people' is utterly ridiculous. It was a slender majority of those who voted two and a half years ago. Since then we have some actual information (though still not much!) on what Brexit might look like, and what 'benenfits' and disadvantages it might bring.

A vote now, with more facts, might well yield a very different result. Yet still she continues to push on a closed door with the EU, while attempting to bulldoze a shitty deal with no advantages through our parliament. When the obvious solution is to have the grace to admit that this is likely not in the UK's best interests after all, to come clean about that to the public (and stop trying to keep information about how risky and costly it is from us) and start thinking about a way forward from having admitted that that is actually the situation.

I feel sorry for Scotland who voted remain.

She nailed her colours to the mast with her citizens of nowhere speech. Good governance requires diplomacy, pragmatism and humility. She does not have these personality traits. She pandered to the hard brexiteers at the outset and has had to row back embarrassingly in an attempt to save face.

I can't understand why she is allowed to keep saying these things unchecked. I heard her blather on yesterday that the British people voted to end Freedom of Movement and not to be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. I would like to see her evidence of this. If even 5% of those who voted leave were not bothered by FOM then that would no longer be a majority of those who voted.

Well the flip side of this argument is that she is doggedly determined to deliver what the majority of the voters wanted
Shr has stuck to what the people said they want and she is refusing to give up

She is making a pig's ear of it but who would do it better.. Corbyn!??
She is at least sticking to.what she believes is right and is the will of the people and bravely battling on when most people would have given up

Scotland's margin to remain was larger than England's to leave.

She is not giving leavers what they want because there are a million variations of leave. Her WA was unpopular apparently with with the public so even if it got through parliament leavers would still be groaning. Not a good return on 500 million quid a week.

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I agree. I'm certainly not a Tory but I believe she's sincere about taking the country out of the EU. It was always going to be a tough one, EU is like Hotel California, plus majority of MPs are remainers.

I don’t know why interviewers don’t challenge her or her ministers about her claims over the overwhelming majority. I’ve spoken to leavers who weren’t motivated by ending freedom of movement. It’s her priority for some reason.

It irritates me immensely. I watched her speech outside Number 10, where she talked about the overwhelming majority wanting her to get on with Brexit, and it's a completely an unjustified statement. We don't know what people think now, but there's no evidence it's an overwhelming majority

where she talked about the overwhelming majority wanting her to get on with Brexit,

It's minor by comparison But an overwhelming majority was against fox hunting but she wanted to revisit it and bring it back. Until it affected her popularity.

It appears some majorities are more equal than others.