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What is actually likely to happen in the event of a no-deal brexit?

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KitKat1985 · 16/01/2019 07:14

So, it's looking increasingly likely we may be heading to a no-deal Brexit. What are the realistic likely consequences of this? How worried should I be?

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bellinisurge · 16/01/2019 19:21

There will not be much home grown veg in Spring. That's how veg cultivation works - it's called the hungry gap when winter crops are at an end and late spring/summer crops aren't yet harvestable. Even in a big uk agribusiness they will have had to have planted the stuff already. Which takes up space and resources. If they don't know if the market for their goods will be there why should they invest in growing wasted crops? The fairies don't magic fruit and vegetables up on demand.

PortiaCastis · 16/01/2019 19:26

Plenty of fresh veg here but dunno who's going to pick it as folk are already going off back home to Poland and so on, I spose we could crack on and do it ourselves but we do have other work to contend with

BlackPrism · 16/01/2019 19:31

I go on a rampage twatting anyone yelling 'En-guh-lund'

Cheekysquirrel · 16/01/2019 20:14

Oh god, I wish they’d make their minds up. We need to pay our holiday balance for mid April and can’t decide whether to or not. Obviously there are bigger problems than this but in a teeny tiny selfish problem - this is mine. I don’t even know if we moved it if it would be any better as if brexit is delayed it could still be that we’d be booked to go around brexit!
We’ve been looking forward to this for 18 months...
again I know this is a totally insignificant problem in the grand scheme of things. I should be more worried about my insulin.

1tisILeClerc · 16/01/2019 20:21

Cheekysquirrel
The EU's 'no deal' plans suggest that direct flights to the EU should go ahead.
Talk to the travel company and ask a few probing questions and using your MN knowledge, are they BS answers you get or credible. Ask about refunds and insurance.
So much is depending on May not making the EU too angry.

Frazzled2207 · 16/01/2019 20:32

Whereas we need agreement from all 27 eu countries to extend article 50, (and they'd be forgiven for telling us to piss off), it has been agreed by the European Court that we can just cancel Brexit without their agreement. Sounds like the best plan to me.

xebobfromUS · 16/01/2019 22:25

The only thing I can think of to help out British farmers with a lack of labor is to make their farms a you-pick farm. Here in the states we have them where people can go to a farm and pick as much fruit or vegetables as they want, the amount picked is then weighed and they pay the farmer accordingly. Since there is no middleman people pay considerably less than they would in a store.

Of course the stores lose out but this might be a better arrangement than letting the crops rot in the fields.

millyonth · 16/01/2019 22:35

Blackprism Grin

Costacoffeeplease · 16/01/2019 22:49

Yes, there are ‘pick your own’ farms in the uk

Bloominglovely · 16/01/2019 23:19

followed by a referendum in NI about Irish reunification

Except nobody on either side of the border wants this (apart from die hard republicans). I really cannot see Ireland or NI doing anything to jeopardise the GFA and returning to civil war.

PerverseConverse · 16/01/2019 23:21

@xebobfromUS the one near to me is bloody expensive. It's probably 10 years since we last went and we were gobsmacked at the price. I used to follow them on Facebook when I was on there and the season is so short and very unpredictable due to our challenging weather. i seem to recall that strawberries were only available for one week last year. One week!

Somerville · 16/01/2019 23:33

Have you seen the latest polls, Blooming? If UK forced a hard border then a successful border poll is looking likely.

Bloominglovely · 16/01/2019 23:41

Look where polls got the UK Somerville. The Republic certainly don't want it (as per discussions on the ground). Ireland doesn't identify with NI in other ways either - abortion, gay marriage etc. and in a similar vein NI doesn't identify with the UK on those matters either. Nobody wants NI apart from the DUP.

BigChocFrenzy · 17/01/2019 00:29

<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/irish-people-united-ireland-referendum-poll" target="_blank">https://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/irish-people-united-ireland-referendum-poll

73.4% of residents in the Republic of Ireland would be in favor of unifying the people of Ireland

BigChocFrenzy · 17/01/2019 00:31

Latest NI poll in December:

if there were a No Deal Brexit then reuniting Ireland leads staying in the UK by 48% to 38%

What is actually likely to happen in the event of a no-deal brexit?
MarcieBluebell · 17/01/2019 00:33

I've had a conspiracy from the start the mps are purposefully maintaining chaos and we have a no deal and remain.

Bloominglovely · 17/01/2019 00:43

BigChoc Theoretically.

However I have read numerous forums where mini polls were conducted and 80% said, if it came down to it, they would not vote for reunification.

xebobfromUS · 17/01/2019 01:11

Perverse

Perhaps a person could pick at the higher price, then return home and sell for a small profit at some sort of outdoor stand to those who don't care for that hard farm work ( not quite sure how legal that would be in the UK though ).

Having done crop picking on my Daddy's farm, beans and peas are the hardest, corn, melons, cucumbers are a heck of a lot easier. Still you had to watch out for snakes, ants and avoid the shady areas because that is where the biting insects preferred to stay.

bellinisurge · 17/01/2019 05:45

Ireland doesn't solve this for the uk by unification and taking the pesky NI issue out of the UK's hair.
All my life (I'm old) my Irish mum said, theory and dreams are one thing but cold hard financial and social reality is another. She isn't (wasn't) a lone voice on that.

PerverseConverse · 17/01/2019 07:22

@MarcieBluebell me too. May is a remainer and I think this is her long game.

Mistigri · 17/01/2019 07:27

May is remainer who has big issues with immigration and for whom the end of FoM seems to be the sticking point now.

After 3 years I don't think people's point of departure is really that relevant. People have invested a huge amount in take Brexit positions over the last 3 years and I don't think May is any exception to that. Plus she must be worn down/exhausted by the whole thing which won't be helping with rational decision making.

surferjet · 17/01/2019 07:30

May is a remainer and I think this is her long game

Absolutely.

Remainers have nothing to fear with TM, she’s on your side & we’ll end up not leaving at all, which was always her plan.
I trusted her in the beginning to deliver brexit, but the longer it’s gone on the more she’s looking like a snake.

PerverseConverse · 17/01/2019 07:41

Cripes, surferjet and I agree on something. Nearly choked on my hot cross bun.

millyonth · 17/01/2019 07:53

I agree with you Surfer.
We're in the EU forever unfortunately.
The only possible way out is a GE and Corbyn coming out for Leave. And that's not going to happen!

jasjas1973 · 17/01/2019 08:01

May is a remainer and I think this is her long game

What on earth are you all on?

May is as hardcore Leave as Fox or IDS, not quite a JRM but i wouldn't worry about no brexit just yet!
Right now, her only concern is keeping her party together