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Brexit

Campaign to revoke Article 50

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CraicMammy · 01/01/2019 18:52

Who’s with me?

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CraicMammy · 03/01/2019 11:20

Right, I’m working on a plan. Actions that I will commit to undertake each day to persuade as many people as I am able to support a campaign to revoke.

I hope to encourage you all to join in and spread the word!

My first step, is to draft a letter to my MP asking them to call for Article 50 to be revoked. I will make available here later today if anyone wants to copy it to send to their own MP.

Tomorrow, I will start an epetition on the Government website calling for a revocation.

I can’t sit on my hands any longer!

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GirlsBlouse17 · 03/01/2019 17:08

Good luck CraicMammy

Mistigri · 03/01/2019 18:33

This guy's with you:

labourpainsblog.com/2019/01/03/scream/

Might be the best article about Brexit I've read.

GirlsBlouse17 · 03/01/2019 20:30

Is sobering

CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 08:38

Ok, here’s the letter I will be sending to my MP today. You are welcome to copy it / make it your own. But please please make some contact with your MP, and spread the word.

Today, an epetition. Link to follow!
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Dear MP

I am writing to you to invite you to petition the Government to revoke, with immediate effect, the UK’s Article 50 notice to leave the EU on 29 March 2019.

I make this request with no agenda other than a deep concern that there has not been sufficient time to allow for a complete negotiation of the terms of the country’s departure or to prepare for the practical effects. For example, it is widely predicted that even with a withdrawal agreement in place, a departure on 29 March this year will lead to severe delays in the import and export of goods at our cross-channel ports, and of the timely and reliable distribution of time-sensitive medical products across borders, because there hasn’t been enough time to make the necessary preparations. Further, there is no technical solution available to manage a customs border between the EU and the UK on the island of Ireland, or the control of movement of people across that border that does not offend the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.

I am extremely concerned that the prospects of a chaotic, rushed departure from the EU this March will cause significant social and economic instability in this country and abroad. Even more so if a ‘no deal’ Brexit occurs. The risk of severe and long-term social and economic disruption to the UK, when the ‘benefits’ appear at this date, so intangible is, in my view unacceptable.

Sir John Major recently made a speech on this subject*, and I find myself agreeing with him wholeheartedly:

“…We need to calm the markets. We need to protect the economic wellbeing of the British people. We need to protect our national interest. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that - to do so - we need to revoke Article 50 with immediate effect. The clock must be stopped. It is clear we need the most precious commodity of all: time…”

I anticipate that you support the Government’s position that it has received a firm mandate from the UK electorate to take steps to leave the EU. However, I would argue that such a mandate did not require the Government to ensure the ‘divorce’ took place on 29 March of this year. If it is not in the best interests of this country to leave the EU on that date, we must not.

The European Court of Justice has confirmed that the Article 50 notice can be revoked by the UK Government, without a parliamentary vote**. It would, of course, be possible to trigger Article 50 again in the future, once the current obstacles have been overcome, if the Government so chooses.

I hope that you will be able to take time to consider the points I have raised in this letter and I look forward to receiving your response in early course.

Yours sincerely,

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  • Extract from Sir John Major’s speech to the Institute of International and European Affairs in Dublin, made 11 December 2018 ** Case C/621/18 Wightman and ors v Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union
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W0rriedMum · 04/01/2019 08:44

The real issue is that everyone complains here and on Twitter, but does nothing about it. My own MP is an arch hard Brexiteer but I've written several times, only to be told it's a matter of conscience. I've also been told I'm the only regular correspondent on the matter! Yet all the armchair critics keep "despairing" at the state of British politics. I've told mine I will campaign against them if they ignore the wishes of their electorate (a heavy remain area here).

Good for you for contacting your MP and fighting back.

BackInTime · 04/01/2019 08:54

Excellent article

CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 09:08

How about printing off some copies of your letter for friends to sign and send to their MP?

I’m dismayed at your MP’s attitude. How anyone can suggest any action other than revoking Article 50 right now is conscionble (sorry no idea how to spell) is beyond me!

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W0rriedMum · 04/01/2019 09:29

I have forwarded my mail to every person I know in the constituency and yet still everyone prefers to complain on Facebook and Twitter. Grrrrr...
Meanwhile they campaign against local planning decisions all the time! It worries me what we are sleepwalking into.

CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 10:14

If you can support my epetition, I’d be really grateful.

Click this link to sign the petition:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/236482/sponsors/new?token=V3X4WQYAUd4jehvUYyF

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Lottapianos · 04/01/2019 10:19

Done CraicMammy. I will share far and wide . Thank you for doing this

CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 10:22

Thank you Lottapianos Smile xxx

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W0rriedMum · 04/01/2019 13:22

Can you link to the petition itself rather than the "sign here" page? I want to read it before signing.

Its depressing that the most popular petition about Brexit is pushing a hard Brexit in March..

CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 13:26

The epetition isn’t live yet, I needed to get 5 initial supporters to submit the proposal. Now the people who manage the petitions are checking it to be sure it doesn’t breach the rules (ie not abusive, within the scope of Parliament’s powers etc)

I let you know when it’s live to sign, I basically cribbed the wording from the letter I posted above, I will cut and paste the exact wording below

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CraicMammy · 04/01/2019 13:32

My petition:

Revoke the UK’s Article 50 notice to leave the EU on 29/03/19.

Reasons:

The terms of the UK's departure from the EU have not been fully negotiated. There's the risk of severe delays at seaports; no technical solution available to manage a customs border, or control the movement of people across the Irish border that doesn't offend the terms of the Belfast Agreement.

Background and evidence:

The Government states that it has received a firm mandate from the UK electorate to take steps to leave the EU. However, that mandate does not bind it to a ‘divorce’ on 29 March of this year. The ECJ has confirmed that the Article 50 notice can be revoked by the UK Government, without a parliamentary vote. (Case C/621/18 Wightman & ors v SoS for Exiting the EU) Art. 50 could be triggered again in the future, once current obstacles have been overcome.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/01/2019 13:49

Let us know when it's live :)

Blahblahblah111 · 04/01/2019 14:06

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themueslicamel · 04/01/2019 14:07

Its depressing that the most popular petition about Brexit is pushing a hard Brexit in March..

I wasn't aware of this until you mentioned it, almost 500 people have signed it in the last hour and it stands at 291,485!

ShovingLeopard · 04/01/2019 14:31

I'm with you. Will be writing to my MP, and signing the petition.

Depressing about the amount of signatures on the other petition, but it is only a small number of the electorate.

Blahblahblah111 · 04/01/2019 14:33

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BackInTime · 04/01/2019 15:06

It is depressing, I suspect that these are people who are in the either in the I’m alright Jack category or in the I’m so pissed off I don’t care category.

Lottapianos · 04/01/2019 15:45

'I suspect that these are people who are in the either in the I’m alright Jack category or in the I’m so pissed off I don’t care category.'

Or in the category that thinks that ' no deal' means nothing changes Hmm

mummmy2017 · 04/01/2019 15:48

Nope, I am in the I voted to get out of a club, that is not what it purported to be.... Trade...
No deal will be done, and will work.

Mistigri · 04/01/2019 16:04

I wasn't aware of this until you mentioned it, almost 500 people have signed it in the last hour and it stands at 291,485!

There is literally zero probability of those all being (a) real people and (b) UK voters. It's pretty easy to game a petition.

I think the committed "no deal" demographic is quite small, although there seem to be a lot of people who don't understand that no deal means just that.

SusanWalker · 04/01/2019 16:14

So would you be happy to be in if it was just about trade mummmy2017? If so then I don't understand why you want no deal as a deal would be just about trade.

Although actually I think we're going to end up with quite a lot of the political stuff anyway because it's in our best interests, like security.

Which begs the obvious question....