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Quick poll: what do you think will happen come March 29th?

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festivedogbone · 18/12/2018 14:44

  • TM's deal
  • No Deal
  • Revoke
  • Something else (please elaborate)
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jm90914 · 23/12/2018 10:05

Mays wa

2 years grace before it all hits the fan again

1tisILeClerc · 23/12/2018 10:27

Accept the WA. It doesn't necessarily mean things will hit the fan, more like a gradual slumping downwards. It is obviously not as good as Remaining, but with decent negotiators would be reasonable.
The biggest issue will be getting good negotiators in, partly to manage the withdrawal and on the other side to ramp up the good deals promised by Fox the Wherrity sniffer and co.
In writing this I feel there may be the odd snag in this idea.

Redskyandrainbows67 · 23/12/2018 11:27

How on earth do you think we are going to get a better deal than 1. Being in the Eu or 2. The wa that has been extensively negotiated

You can’t as a country have your cake and eat it. We aren’t going to get a better deal - no matter who negotiates it.

Redskyandrainbows67 · 23/12/2018 11:28

Both options are crap - so let’s stay! And work on the internal social divisions and discontent that led to such a vote in the first place

1tisILeClerc · 23/12/2018 11:57

{ And work on the internal social divisions and discontent that led to such a vote in the first place}
My main issue with this is that collectively both the Tories and Labour who should KNOW most if not all the arguments have mostly failed to address the issues for decades and there has been no suggestions apart from a few vague 'aspirational suggestions' as to how and when any would actually do it.
Dragging the EU into the mire, that it is also suffering to a fair degree won't help. The UK needs to put it's collective 'big person' pants on and do it.
The injustices that we see increasingly will increase across Europe and the UK but for the last 2 1/2 years particularly and for mant years previous to this the UK government has taken an adversarial stance AGAINST the EU and has not been a team player in too many aspects.
There will undoubtedly be many Pro European MPs whose work has been overshadowed by the naysayers who still have 'we are better than them' attitudes rather than an acceptance that overall we are the same as 'them'. The UK government is allowing and actually encouraging the isolation and break up of the UK. Of course as work colleagues and at family level the situation is completely different but as BoJo says 'FuRk business'.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 23/12/2018 12:49

May's WA will squeak through parliament in January. The Tory press will claim that the Conservatives have saved the UK from the no deal abyss. Opposition MP's who vote against the WA will be accused of economic recklessness.

After March the slow demise of the UK will crank up to full gear (its only been running at a moderate pace for the last 2 years). Everybody will be unhappy. The Tories will continue to argue amongst themselves as to what is best for Britain seeking new trade deals. People will continue to deny that negative economic news has anything to do with Brexit.

Merry Christmas!

pennycarbonara · 23/12/2018 13:51

what do you think will happen come March 29th?

It changes every few days depending on what's in the news, and I won't pretend any of these opinions have any lasting applicability.

At the moment I think either no deal, or trying to extend the Article 50 period with the EU for a vast fee of billions.

Over the last 3 weeks or so I have also thought:
-May's deal would have gone through by now
-second referendum announced by end of December
-snap general election leading to hung parliament in which Labour is the largest party (I think this is much less likely right now as Corbyn has stopped his ambiguity and quite a lot of remainers wouldn't want to vote for him).

Won't be surprised if at some point in early January I start thinking that May's deal going through again seems likely.

I reckon a lot of politicians would like to withdraw Article 50 but they won't do this because of the likelihood of a backlash.

QuinionsRainbow · 23/12/2018 14:26

Just realised that April 1st is only a couple of days after March 29th. Will it all turn out to have been one extremely long and tedious April Fool joke?

QuinionsRainbow · 23/12/2018 14:26

Just realised that April 1st is only a couple of days after March 29th. Will it all turn out to have been one extremely long and tedious April Fool joke?

littlebillie · 31/12/2018 10:26

Too late for another referendum

BarbarianMum · 31/12/2018 11:29

I think no deal. I also think that the press/politicians will go into "Extreme Patriotism" mode and anyone complaining or complainjng that this is not A Good Thing will be labelled a traitor and villified.

surferjet · 31/12/2018 12:04

I can’t believe how quiet this board is considering we’re leaving in just a few months.
I suppose there’s nothing more to say.

1tisILeClerc · 31/12/2018 12:19

{I can’t believe how quiet this board is considering we’re leaving in just a few months. }
The Muppet show are on holiday (mostly).

bellinisurge · 31/12/2018 12:31

No @surferjet , they have all bowed to your great wisdom and factual clarity. Confused

surferjet · 31/12/2018 12:39

What a waste of time all these threads have been though, all the anger, all the rage, all the arguments that went on forever.
How much time have we wasted? Grin

Brexit always meant Brexit.

Stil.....happy new year to you Wine

bellinisurge · 31/12/2018 12:42

@surferjet , if we go No Deal thanks to BeLeavers, we will all suffer. Not really something to look forward to and definitely something to keep fighting against.

1tisILeClerc · 31/12/2018 14:03

{How much time have we wasted? Grin
Brexit always meant Brexit.
Still.....happy new year to you Wine

And the good news is that the Brexit party hasn't even started yet.

Sarahandduck18 · 31/12/2018 14:05

No deal.

I don’t comment on brexit threads but something I think is that didn’t most people vote leave on the assumption of ‘no deal’?

KennDodd · 31/12/2018 14:46

And the good news is that the Brexit party hasn't even started yet

I agree, any who thinks this will be over on March 29th is a fool.

1tisILeClerc · 31/12/2018 15:16

Sarahandduck18
I presume you realise that 'no deal' doesn't mean that things stay more or less as they are but that many things you take for granted now will actually be taken away. I can only guess you will be happy with that.

NameChanger22 · 31/12/2018 16:44

No deal. Chaos.

That's what the evil shits in power want. Then they'll blame it on the poorest and most vulnerable and the country will believe them because people generally believe what they want to believe and need a convenient scapegoat.

I hope I'm wrong.

DangermousesSidekick · 31/12/2018 21:51

That's what the evil shits in power want.

I've been wondering about this for years. Almost everything they've done for 40 years could not have been designed better to encourage inequality and division. Has it all been coincidence, or has it been deliberate? WHY? Who gains from this mess? And Corbyn is still playing party politics with Brexit, trying to push for a GE. There should have been a national coalition government trying to work out Brexit after the last GE.

For the op, what I want: revoke, stay in, and get rid of party politicking. I fear no deal and chaos now, and a gradual removal of industry over the next few years leading to, well essentially, socioeconomic breakdown.

xebobfromUS · 01/01/2019 00:05

Three months or roughly twelve weeks from what I have read seemed to be about the minimum time to implement another referendum or a PV.

The EU seems to have dug in its heels, May has seemed to dug in her heels, the opposition to May seems to have dug in its heels. For a radical change to occur there would have to been momentum to have built up to this point and that just isn't there.

The EU has already made preparations for a no-deal or is busy wrapping up those preparations. People are moving from the U.K. or are busy making plans to leave. May has seemingly rejected for now anyway a trade deal with the U.S. because she didn't like the food standards of the U.S. and has also rejected an offer from India because of the visa issue.

The U.K. government appears to have been waiting for the past two years for the EU, the U.S., India, etc to come begging for a trade deal solely on whatever terms the U.K. wished once the U.K. leaves the EU.
These things have not happened.

With the start of the new year it does dawn on one just how short three months really is and barring a miracle or two it is basically game over.

One can only then wish the U.K. good luck with whatever the final outcome.

1tisILeClerc · 01/01/2019 00:18

{The EU seems to have dug in its heels,}
To be fair, the EU should have just hung a notice on the door saying' call us when you have a workable plan' 2 years ago and just gone on holiday in the meantime.

bellinisurge · 01/01/2019 09:53

If by "dug its heels in", you mean not conceding to every petulant demand UK has made then yes, it has.
It's up to the UK now. There is nothing more that EU can and should do.
We accept WA and start to negotiate a reasonable deal. Or we crash out.