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Westministenders: Reality Bytes

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RedToothBrush · 01/11/2018 22:39

Tonight the Corbyn and McDonnell Labour Party supported the Tory Party in improving the tax allowance for higher rate tax payers.

Yes you read that right. Did you even blink?

You've been so conditioned into seeing non existant opposition which seems to go against everything the Labour Party stand for that you no longer are shocked.

That's what 2 and a half years of Brexit has done to you.

You no longer care that Boris Johnson got £14,000 from the Saudis a couple of days before the Khashoggi murder. You know longer care that the former Defence Secretary is employed for £75,000 a year to advise a major Saudi Investor.

You are just happy that Trump hasn't started a war with Iran or North Korea yet. And hasn't started a civil war. (Though he's trying hard and next week is his best opportunity to stir it all up). You aren't surprised to hear that predictions are that the Democrats will fail to make gains in the mid terms.

You've suffered the 4657 story about how Therea May is just about to be challenged for the leadership.

You've heard about the squad set up at the Home Office to clear up all the cases the media get their hands on as the latest burning injustice. You are hearing that EU nationals who have been promised they are 'safe' are being subjected to questions about their right to stay. And you just shrug and say, "Yeah well thats the Home Office for you. The Bastards". And you do mean it, but you are so jaded by it all. And you worry that another 12 months from now, you won't even be interested in another story like that, and the press will stop printing them as they no longer interest the reader. What happens to your friends, your family, or even you then? Who is going to care then?

And then you have today.

A day where you hear that Bannon is being investigated by the Senate Intel Committee, Farage has been upgraded to the FBI's Really Naughty List and Banks has (FINALLY) been refered to the NCA. (We were only speculating on the possibility, on the 26th March...)

And you go 'Ooooooooo maybe there is hope'.

Maybe we COULD remain in the EU and avoid Turnip Soup and wiping your arse with leaves because of the national bog roll shortage. Or at least get a decent deal which suits us as a nation. Maybe, just maybe!

And that lasts for about 2 minutes before you log into twitter and the very first thing you see this:

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Excl: David Cameron tells friends he’d like a return to frontline politics, and fancies Foreign Secretary
www.thesun.co.uk/news/7639377/david-cameron-return-to-politics/

And you let out a high pitched screech as if you are were a dying cat as you remember this is 2018, and it just wants to beat the life out of you.

On the plus side, it shows you do still care enough to think 'Don't let that fucking bastard anywhere near power ever, ever again.'.

Ho hum.

Keep on, keeping on. Don't let the bastards win.
Keep caring. It matters.

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BigChocFrenzy · 06/11/2018 18:29

Amazing !

If I have understood correctly, Blair and Momentum support the same action: 🤭
MPs should vote down the deal

Blair thinks this increases the chances of revoking A50
Yes, a little bit

imo No Deal makes it much more likely that we would rejoin - with considerable public support after this "pure" Brexit has been tried and crashed the economy -
whereas with May's grotty deal, many people and most Leavers would blame any crash on the bad deal rather than Brexit itself

BigChocFrenzy · 06/11/2018 18:32

The Uk does not need more time;
it needs to stop looking for unicorns and instead choose one of the options for a deal that the EU has offered.

Peregrina · 06/11/2018 18:34

imo No Deal makes it much more likely that we would rejoin - with considerable public support after this "pure" Brexit has been tried and crashed the economy -

I would hope so too and take the Tory party in its post 1979 incarnation with it.

Tanith · 06/11/2018 18:39

We must never forget how important it is for Britain to save face. National honour is no less potent for being idiotic

For some time now, I have had "The Charge of The Light Brigade" going through my mind. This week, it alternates with "The General" by Siegfried Sassoon...

Tanith · 06/11/2018 18:41

... that line about "incompetent swine" really resonates Angry.

1tisILeClerc · 06/11/2018 18:51

Couldn't the gov find a teenager to write that piece? Surely it can't be anything like a legitimate 'plan'?
Why are they buggering off for another recess on 12th, maybe sorting out a plan would be more respectful of the inhabitants of the UK and the EU?
I was going to suggest they use that multi billion Pound aircraft carrier to being some pork and beans back from the USA.

woman11017 · 06/11/2018 18:56

@carolecadwalla
10/ So that's 9 investigations into crimes committed in EURef or suspected crimes involving National Crime Agency (x2), Met police (x3), ICO (x3). Note this Sunday @observerUK & @openDemocracy published new stories about new allegations, new crimes

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1059863516084166656

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2018 20:25

Sarah Kendizor @Sarahkenzior
My husband is at our St Louis polling site and he says lines are longer than he's ever seen. They're so long, he's in a corridor of the polling site he did not know existed. They rerouted the line to make room 😮

This is good. Get out and vote, Missouri! Polls open til 7:00 pm!

I voted! Line was not as long as when my husband went earlier. But it was long for a midterm election -- comparable to 2016.

The biggest change I noticed was the number of people who looked 40 or younger. The voter base in my area is elderly black voters. Youth turnout is new.

I hate election nights!

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RedToothBrush · 06/11/2018 20:32

Robert Peston @peston
Funniest ever Downing Street statement on leaked Brexit planning grid

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mathanxiety · 06/11/2018 20:48

A friend of mine gave up on early voting last night as the line was all the way round the block. She is determined to vote today no matter how long it takes.

It's a safe Dem house seat but there is a gubernatorial election here.

Hazardswan · 06/11/2018 20:48

I have nearly 300 posts to catch up on...

DP has had some not so good days

I've only had a chance to read headlines - gov still pretending we're close to a backstop agreement and the Michel Barnier is being polite but has stated this is bullshit is my level of understanding.

Is that channel 4 program from last night worth a watch? Will it make me REALLY , moderately, mildly or not depressed? Grin

jasjas1973 · 06/11/2018 20:55

If I have understood correctly, Blair and Momentum support the same action: MPs should vote down the deal

Blair thinks this increases the chances of revoking A50

this is the argument i had with Bear, lets hope Labour do not let us down!

BigChocFrenzy · 06/11/2018 20:59

A $240-Billion-a-Day Market Is Leaving London Over Brexit

Just one of those mysterious financial markets that made the City of London a world centre
Nothing to see
Move on

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-06/a-240-billion-a-month-market-leaves-london-because-of-brexit?srnd=premium-Europe

Europe’s biggest repo trading venue is moving to Amsterdam
BrokerTec is the first company to relocate an entire market

CME Group Inc is moving its European market for short term financing ...
because the exchange operator wants to guarantee continental firms can continue to use it if there is a no deal Brexit

Bearbehind · 06/11/2018 21:13

this is the argument i had with Bear, lets hope Labour do not let us down!

But neither Blair nor Momentum have a vote.

And those with a vote, on either side, have shown themselves to be spineless.

jasjas1973 · 06/11/2018 21:26

Agree but its a possibility and Momentum have a great deal of influence within the JC/McDonnell power base.
Likewise Blair has influence with the more moderates.

Its we ve got Bear, the Tories aren't going to change their tune unless they think there are votes in it.

BigChocFrenzy · 06/11/2018 21:36

Group assaults homeless man with firework in Liverpool

First the mocking Grenfell bonfire and now this

Has it always been this bad around Guy Fawkes, or has the approaching Brexit given people licence to express their hatred towards the vulnerable ?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/06/liverpool-homeless-man-firework-assault

woman11017 · 06/11/2018 21:46

Yes it's got worse. BCF item on channel 4 news last night about the number of attacks on fire fighters using fireworks as weapons.
Is why I'm not so sanguine about the crash out thingy, with the way things are...........

Who is Geoffrey Cox, the new figure at the heart of Brexit talks

Becoming attorney general only in July, Cox is now one of the cabinet’s key personalities

The new minister’s remit quickly went beyond the legal. In October, Cox was the warm up act for the prime minister at the Conservative conference, wowing the party faithful with a pro-Brexit speech memorable for its grand sweep, Rumpolian delivery and one memorable – if arguably grandiloquent – literary reference in his peroration

Britain, he said, would come to life after Brexit, quoting John Milton’s Areopagitica: “Methinks I see in my mind a noble and puissant Nation rousing herself like a strong man after sleep, and shaking her invincible locks: Methinks I see her as an Eagle muing her mighty youth, and kindling her undazl’d eyes at the full midday beam

Pretentious shite, as my granny used to say.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/06/geoffrey-cox-who-is-new-figure-heart-of-brexit-talks

Lico · 06/11/2018 21:55

Apologies if posted before.
Michelin closing down Dundee factory due to market conditions. Further investment no longer viable.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-46114316/michelin-workers-in-dundee-react-to-factory-closure

And in Wales- car parts factory might close down

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46110825

woman11017 · 06/11/2018 22:02

Did the blitz destroyed more industry than brexit has?

Tanith · 06/11/2018 22:05

Britain, he said, would come to life after Brexit, quoting John Milton’s Areopagitica: “Methinks I see in my mind a noble and puissant Nation rousing herself like a strong man after sleep, and shaking her invincible locks: Methinks I see her as an Eagle muing her mighty youth, and kindling her undazl’d eyes at the full midday beam

"Not though the soldier knew
Someone had blundered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred."

jasjas1973 · 06/11/2018 22:15

A good honest tory in the traditional vein ....

www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11541/geoffrey_cox/torridge_and_west_devon/votes

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2018 22:32

Ladbrokes Politics @LadPolitics
Big move towards a Democratic House majority on betting markets #Midterms2018

Brace brace.

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borntobequiet · 06/11/2018 22:33

A nicer vision of GB
m.youtube.com/watch?v=3x1_o33Us7g

RedToothBrush · 06/11/2018 22:47

Grenfell and the gagging clauses...

Not a good look.

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BigChocFrenzy · 06/11/2018 23:04

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/nov/06/new-blow-for-uk-car-industry-as-european-parts-factories-close-michelin-schaeffler

Tony Burke, [Unite] assistant general secretary, said:
“This is yet another body blow for the UK’s automotive supply chain and the wider car industry.
It should leave no one in any doubt as to what is in store if the UK crashes out of the European Union without a deal that secures tariff-free frictionless trade.

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