Govt preparing for civil unrest....

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Oneday
Yes indeed.
Venezuela is in dire problem mode, but they have taken 20 years or more to get so bad, perhaps accelerates quite recently.
The UK didn't have to do this AT ALL and is condensing this nonsense into about 1 year, of which there are only about 6 months left.
The possibility of planes not flying on March 30 is not the problem. The fact that the UK Gov has been putting it's fingers up to the whole world and discrediting everything that was good about the UK that WILL be the problem.

There is NO good opportunity for the UK from here going forwards.
Even 'Remain' is still bad, principally because of the wat that negotiations have been handled.

Ok I'm a prepper but even I think that is worst case scenario Havana. For example the bit about doctors leaving the country from New Year 2019. Most doctors in this country are employed by the NHS (although might also have private work). They are not planning on leaving the country in droves after Christmas. Most of the doctors I've spoken to (lots of them in very senior roles in my social circle - a good number of them leave voters since they voted on a single issue to make a point - the pressure on the NHS due to increasing population) are very "I'm alright Gov - I have a job for life!"

Likewise EU settlers in the UK. My Polish friend laughed and said it would have to get really bad here for them to even consider going back. The Polish schools for example are massively oversubscribed so that they have shifts with one cohort doing early morning until lunchtime and then the next cohort doing lunchtime until evening. A nightmare to manage if you have more than one child. Food is as expensive there as it is here at the moment. etc etc

However I have read 'The Mandibles' (well worth a read) and so I see where you are going with your predictions.

I feel the biggest problem with the vote to leave the EU was that no-one really understood just how incompetant our government/civil service had become.

All those years of being able to blame the EU for everything...years when each successive government has been able to hide just how useless and out of touch with the majority population they actually are.

I do believe that the reason not one major political party honestly wants to leave the EU is that most MP's would be exposed as lazy, corrupt, self serving, time-wasters. They are paid to serve the people of this country and they will no longer be able to evade their responsibilities.

{ they will no longer be able to evade their responsibilities}
Unfortunately having power over the press they can continue the 'EU made us break the country' line almost indefinitely.
Having a government funded 'troll department' would be easy, and as has been noted having NDAs and 'secret deals' makes things far too easy for them.

[Doctors] are not planning on leaving the country in droves after Christmas.

Doctors and other skilled British workers don't need to leave in droves for there to be an impact. Take away a few key workers and whole businesses and services grind to a halt.

My Polish friend laughed and said it would have to get really bad here for them to even consider going back.

Figures show that EU workers are already leaving in large numbers. The net number of immigrants from the Poland, Czech Rep and Hungary is now down to a few thousand a year. Some categories of workers, e.g. EU nurses, have stopped coming altogether. If there is a No Deal Brexit, they are not going to hang around - and even worse, may experience hostility as politicians like Hunt loudly proclaim everything to be the fault of the EU.

As for being a drama llama, why else would the government appoint Emergency Planners if not to consider all possible scenarios? I keep reading on this forum, and others, that 'everything will be alright' with no explanation of how that would happen. Every industry report, every EU paper and every government paper suggests the opposite.

Havana

That’s the scenario I am expecting.

BiL, in the UK works for a government agency. I won’t say which one. He has been asked to map locations of 7 potential mass grave sites around the UK.

omg Redneck . Great post earlier Havanananana
Natural disasters are normal. One caused by one's own government isn't.

{He has been asked to map locations of 7 potential mass grave sites around the UK.}
Perhaps the most chilling part of that sentence is that a number has been quoted.

Just one bout of spring flu, food, medicine and power shortages would be all that was needed for requiring 7, I suppose.

I'm not disputing it could be disastrous havana but I do think your timescales are off. Most of the population still has its head firmly buried in the sand.

That job advert...
Anyone else notice this?
Length of employment
9 months (to June 2019), with the possibility of extension or permanency

Nice.

Most of the population still has its head firmly buried in the sand
No one is telling them.

In a normal country facing this sort of crisis, government deps and LAs would be doing everything to ensure the safety of its citizens, and all the media would be publicising it.

Remind me, why is this 'brexit' thingy happening?

Timescales seem about right to me.
Up to 9 days without food supplies leads to 'civil disruption'.
Up to 3 days without power.

Not enjoying this thread At All.

It was shocking enough to hear about mass graves in Indonesia, a few days ago, as the result of natural disaster. Incomprehensible to think this could happen here through the actions of supposedly elected representatives ...

BiL, in the UK works for a government agency. I won’t say which one. He has been asked to map locations of 7 potential mass grave sites around the UK.

Wtf?

This is getting out of hand... what on earth is happening to the UK???

The sky is falling....the sky is falling

BiL, in the UK works for a government agency. I won’t say which one. He has been asked to map locations of 7 potential mass grave sites around the UK.

For when we run out of medicines/can't treat people so there's a lot more death due to poor health than usual or for when we start killing each other over tins of beans? Both I suppose.

I am stockpiling but can't store more than enough for a few weeks really and even then I wonder whether someone will just rob me for it.

Just think.
A few more votes and it tipping the other way and we could all be toddling down to the supermarket to get some Christmas 'tat' which might have been a few pence more than last year, whereas some are now considering a truckload of baked beans and candles that are already rather more expensive than they would have been and the prospect of being unemployed in the New Year.

I do think it is inevitable deaths are increasing due to NHS failure -but we will just end up more like the US.
The mass grave thing can't be true -unless it's meant to be from mass riots or something.

I'll be very happy if it doesn't. Next year if I can come and mock my own worry, I will be really happy

woman11017

I think it’s more like 3 hot meals.

A huge percentage of the population have never experienced hardship of this kind. Their tolerance for hard times is nonexistent.

lonelyplanetmum

TBF the government always have a couple locations for mass graves in the event of a bad flu season. This year he has been told to find more.

For the Y2K deniers like justwantedalaugh (although to be fair, they're just saying "nothing happened" and totally ignoring the vast amount of work that went into preparing for it so that nothing would happen - although tell the women who had abortions because someone had missed that particular system when calculating risk of abnormalities ), I'll repeat again what I've said about the Millennium Bug

If lots of people hadn't put in lots of work at the telecoms company I worked for (as did lots of people in all the other telecom companies) in preparation (because telecoms had loads of legacy systems cobbled together), then at the Millennium, not only would your phones (both landlines and mobiles) have stopped working , but you wouldn't have been able to get money out of ATMs (because they need telecoms links to operate), use credit cards (because they need telecoms links to operate), find out your balance even inside bank branches (because they use telecoms links to operate), listen to the radio (because the transmission uses telecoms links to operate), use the internet (because it uses telecom links to operate), trains would have had to stop running (because the signals use telecoms links to operate) or watch TV (yes, you've guessed it, because the transmission uses telecoms links to operate).

So yes, just like the Millennium Bug

BTW: some of these things may become issues again as a result of Brexit. If they aren't sorted again and soon , you may well lose TV links, credit card authorisations and mobile and telecom connections with the EU as the UK Government is being very slow to sort some of the legal issues that allow these to operate, like GDPR and data sharing. Friends still in the industry are pulling their hair out at the complacency of the UK Government, which doesn't seem to have a clue about the far-reaching impact of what it is doing and the hard work that still needs to be done to prepare for it.

Thus do civil wars begin and dictators arise.