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Brexit

To think we are heading towards an economic crisis?

142 replies

crunchymint · 12/08/2018 01:03

The pound has fallen as Brexit approaches and there are no proper deals in place.
Retail spending in Britain is down.
The Turkish Lira fell by 20% today.
The Russian Ruble has also fallen.
All of this will have an impact on the economy. I see us hurtling towards an economic crisis.

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hungryhippo90 · 12/08/2018 11:48

Yep, I don’t think there’s ever been a point in my life where things have been so bad.

Our family has recently reviewed our savings plan in order to be able to weather whatever may happen.

We’re preparing for 18 months of frugal spending money sat aside in a mixture of bank accounts and cash should banks have temporary issues we will have access to money.

It’s a scary situation. We’ve recently thought more about moving out of the country but where do we go? Seems that everywhere will be hit hard.

KingscoteStaff · 12/08/2018 11:57

Surely the Brexit Dividend will fix it all?

caperberries · 12/08/2018 12:08

But surely if we all turn super-frugal consumer spending will fall off a cliff and hasten the economic apocalypse?

Viviennemary · 12/08/2018 12:13

Things need a shake up IMHO. House prices are far too high, and interest rates far too low for savers. The present economy doesn't suit everyone.

KimCheesePickle · 12/08/2018 12:13

Yep, caperberries, it's well know in Economics as the paradox of thrift. What's good for the household is bad for the country macroeconomically. It's why rightwingers' claims that you should run the country like you'd run a household budget are fallacious. Austerity is bad for the nation's economic growth and continuity.

FlotSHAMnJetson · 12/08/2018 14:42

We are about to buy a house with a mortgage of 60% of its current value, fixed for 5 years.

Are we crazy?

NewYearNewMe18 · 12/08/2018 14:51

The UK government will kill off the sick and poor, there will be riots and chaos.

Make your mind up, usually its the underclasses who riot . They cant do that if they are dead. Have you got any preferred death method? lobbing off a cliff a'la Logans Run?

NewYearNewMe18 · 12/08/2018 14:52

We are about to buy a house with a mortgage of 60% of its current value, fixed for 5 years. are we cray?

No, interest rates might rise a little, prices might dip a little, but the fact of the matter is there are more people than houses, ergo the market will always recover.

Seniorcitizen1 · 12/08/2018 14:54

For most people in UK they have been in an economic crisis since the bankers created one 10 years ago. True, brexit will add to it

KittyHawke80 · 12/08/2018 14:56

Off a cliff? They’re vapourized in the film, and given a kind of ‘Brompton’s Cocktail’ gas in the book.

Ethylred · 12/08/2018 14:57

Brexit a symptom?? Brexit is a self-willed, self-made disaster.
And no, the D word is not hyperbole. Why else would Jacob Rees Mogg's company be touting ways of Brexit-proofing its customers' investments?

ohreallyohreallyoh · 12/08/2018 15:00

The next couple of years, is going to be one of those time periods were there is going to be a change in the World

I have been saying for a while, future GCSE history students will be explaining why the years 2010-2020 were so important in shaping the future of the UK and what could have been done to put us on a different trajectory.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 12/08/2018 15:09

Brexit a symptom?? Brexit is a self-willed, self-made disaster. Erm, and what is the root cause of that? It didn't appear out of nowhere, it had been decades long in its growth.

My grandparents in the 30s and 40, parents in the 70s, me in the 80s and 90s, now since the millenium. Post wars Britain has had major fluctuations, see saws of financial boom and bust. Brexit is another symptom of what happens when successive governments try to micromanage via taxes.

Seeing Brexit as the ultimate cause of any financial boom or bust is blinkered, dismisses far too much history of governmental meddling - all governments!

LimboLuna · 12/08/2018 15:13

I think we needed to let the last fall out happen and i don't think things properly recovered, it built a false unsustainable floor. Now theres even less to trim and save for everyone (government including).

BunnyCarr · 12/08/2018 15:19

We've been in one for years.

But yes, there is an almighty bang coming down the line.

buttermilkwaffles · 12/08/2018 17:36

"On your credit cards, switch from direct debit to standing order. DDs pay the minimum amount every month and gradually decrease as you pay back the loan. "

That's not the case with my credit card - I have a direct debit which pays off the statement balance in full each month or if I have not used the card that month it takes nothing. When I set it up I could choose to pay the minimum, a 'boosted' amount (minimum + extra), a fixed amount or the full amount and obviously I chose the latter, but either way with 3 of the 4 options it will be a variable amount, so a direct debit does not have to be a fixed amount. I can change the option online at anytime (takes 30 seconds) so if anyone has a direct debit set up to pay the minimum it should be very easy to change it to pay the full balance, either via your online account or by phoning them.

But, yes, agree with paying off the balance in full each month, credit cards are one of the most expensive ways to borrow.

c3pu · 12/08/2018 17:50

Economic crisis?

Yeah, and what of it?

crunchymint · 12/08/2018 17:54

What of it? It will mean that many people will really struggle, that's what

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KennDodd · 12/08/2018 18:03

Well, we get what we vote for.

KimCheesePickle · 12/08/2018 18:04

On my CC you can either pay by DD the minimum amount, or pay it off in full. Obviously, if you can pay it off in full, you're sorted. However, if you're struggling, just that small tweak of switching from DD to SO makes an accumulating snowball that pays the thing off much sooner.

Say for example, this month's minimum payment is £30.00
You pay it by DD. The next month (assuming no further spends) it may be £29.78. The month after, decreases to £29.55 etc etc. Ends up the best part of 20 years to pay off.

Instead, switch to standing order and set every month's payment at £30.00. Those extra pennies soon snowball, and you'll have paid off the balance within a 3 or 4 years. (Cut up/freeze the card)

CuriousaboutSamphire · 13/08/2018 08:21

What of it? It will mean that many people will really struggle, that's what And the people who are currently struggling may fare better...

crunchymint · 13/08/2018 19:48

I doubt it. More likely they will struggle more.

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SquishySquirmy · 13/08/2018 19:54

I know that "Trickle down economics" is a very questionable theory, but it is pretty much universally acknowledged that shit trickles downhill, even if riches don't.

An economic crisis is very, very, very unlikely to make those struggling better off.

Motherhood101Fail · 13/08/2018 20:36

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megletthesecond · 13/08/2018 20:40

Yanbu.
But I'm not sure that last one ever ended. Cameron and Osbournes austerity budget saw to that.

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