To ask if anyone is considering stockpiling

[Ninoo25]

Just that really, given that the government asking industry to stockpile food and medicines has been all over the news in the past week, I was wondering how many people are planning on stockpiling themselves and if so what are you going to stockpile and how much?
TBH my main concern is long term medication that I’m on, but as it’s only available on prescription and Dr wouldn’t let me order more than I need, so there’s nothing I can do about that anyway!

I think some of you have actually taken leave of the tiny bit of sense you were born with.

Seriously have those panicking ever had a major serious issue to deal with in your real lives? Are you actually enjoying the drama and frenzy you are whipping up around yourselves.

Jees.

And a few extra loo rolls, nobody likes to run out.

Well, 'it's all Project Fear' people, I was on my hols last week and stood on the cliffs at Dover watching the number of lorries rolling on and off the ships - if that stops, we'll sure as shit be short of something...

If we have no agreement, we are surely going to have to stop each lorry, then inspect the cargo and the customs forms, aren't we? It all holds everything up and wrecks the supply chain / the perishable goods.

I'm definitely prepping for medical shortages, as far as I can. I am dependent on a medicine, without which I'll die within 3 days, so it's best not to bury my head in the sand, eh?

@Lisabel just look at 3days worth of stuff you actually eat and drink. Imagine being snowed in for 3 days from getting up to going to bed and what you would like to have.
Also get some toothpaste and soap in because Sod's law can apply and you run out of those things when you need them.
Which doesn't sound like hysterical advice but there are plenty on here who seem to think it is.
You decide for you.

Yep build an air raid shelter too while you at it! You never know! Dig for victory. Tin hats! Armageddon I’d die next March people.

Oh hang on no it’s a trade deal.

@Seasawride your fun piss taking is getting a little dull now.

The completely vacuous have declared all will be okay, there will be no shortages. Like Y2K, the problem will just fix itself all on its own.

Please ignore the experts. After all, Britain has had enough of experts.

Wow! You are the FIRST poster to mention Y2K. You are clever !!!

Sorry I think I’ve read your post wrong

It's nice to see you notice something, StoorieHoose.

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Private business can not afford to be so unprepared.

I own a private business. I have not one fucking clue how I'm supposed to import stock from the EU next year. I have no idea what they will do with tarrifs so wether or not my business is even viable is anyones guess. I don't have the space to buy up a years worth of stock, I have 3 months at the most. Has it ever occured to the "project fear" lot that perhaps, in the face of what may well be the most uncertain time in someones lives, having a few extra packets of pasta under the kitchen sink is the only comfort they can claw from this utter shiteshow?

bellinisurge

Look come on you really can’t go along with this on any other level than piss take.

Yes I get people are anxious to see a deal and what the deal will be like but it will be done and Britain and Europe will continue to trade and travel. That’s blindingly obvious.

All this prepper talk is frankly getting out of hand.

As for your experts abilockhart most now agree with the governor of the Bank of England that the predictions of a post Brexit vote bringing economic chaos just havnt materialised have they.

Let’s all calm down and see what the deal looks like.

@Seasawride I'm a prepper and I am deliberately avoiding "prepper talk" because it alienates people and stops them listening.

Well respectfully If you are a prepper you probably do see the world as a very scary place and may then get things blown a tad out of proportion.

I hear you Hamiltoes big businesses have money behind them and can weather a few storms. Small businesses are royally fecked with the current situation. How can anyone plan with so much uncertainty?

@Seasawride no, I don't see the world as a scary place. I see opportunities for me to have a useful approach when difficulties crop up.
But if you want to believe stereotypes, have fun.

Meanwhile, as reported in the Times , the gov has now shelved plans to publicise its no-deal preparations and only send out its advisory letters at the end of August so that people don't panic and, oh, I don't know, think a new government/never voting Tory again/2nd ref/remaining is a good idea.

I suppose you could interpret that many ways, depending on your stance.

But wherever you stand, the gov is not being upfront about anything to the people it is supposed to represent. Things could have been very different - they could have had an actual plan before triggering art 50. They could have worked out what the actual frick they wanted and how they were going to achieve it. They could have given people the chance, given the hard facts, to decide what they wanted to do - and I don't just mean a 2nd ref, I mean letting people decide if they still want to stay here, plan for their businesses, all that sort of thing. They could have set out very clearly the kind of Brexit and Britain they wanted to achieve. They did none of this. It's all been rushed and half-assed and phoned-in and covered up. Those 4 hours David Davis put in in 2 years.

Brexit as it stands only makes sense if you look at it from the perspective of the 50 or so Tory MPs who stand to make a fortune from Brexit, and lose massively if the EU rules on tax avoidance come in in 2019. That's why the rush. That's why the bluster and chicanery.

Brexit is to benefit the 1%. That's why the leave campaign spent illegal amounts of money on illegal ads etc. etc. The rest of us don't matter. A government that has already shown itself, through austerity, to give nary a fuck about the poor or sick is doing this to benefit its own bank accounts. Forgive me if I have zero faith that this self-same government will look after us post-Brexit.

I don’t want to stereotype you but my understanding is preppers live their lives to mitigate all or any impending threats?

That’s fine by the way but I would suggest makes you a glass half empty person? Slightly pessimistic?

Lol. No of course not.

Seriously have those panicking ever had a major serious issue to deal with in your real lives?

I'm not panicking, so this probably doesn't apply to me, unless you mean anyone wanting to have full cupboards means panicking? But actually it's those major serious issue experiences that have made me more cautious and wanting to be more prepared.

Chronic illness means I don't know when the moment hits that me or DH can't make it to the shops (we don't drive). Our medications (I just counted that between us we have eleven longterm repeat prescriptions) are important, although we're lucky in that we're unlikely to drop dead without in the short term.

Having had major issues with burst pipes etc and the follow up of it now means I know am prepared in case we were to not have drinking water for a while (which I'm not really worrying about re. Brexit, just general preparedness).

Having both suddenly found ourselves unemployed in the past makes me more worried about having to repeat the experience than had I never had it. In general having to go through major life shit makes you want to do whatever you can to a) not have to go through the same shit again and b) to be better prepared if it ever DID happen.

OK.
My plan:
Buy an extra pack of Colombian Coffee every time I shop between now and B Day
Plan a booze cruise to stock up on wine - call it advance shopping for the year ahead.
Buy a few flagons of water and get my camping gas bottle re-filled - call it getting ready for next summer's camping
Keep my kitchen cupboards well stocked to about 5 - 7 days food supply with sensible things that I would eat anyway. Keep a generous stock of bread flour and dried yeast (I use a bread maker).
Keep a good level of top up in my freezer of good frozen veg.
Maybe keep a pack of dried milk or a carton of UHT, though really if we can't have fresh I'd rather not have it, unless dried is OK in porridge?

Stock up on French things that I like: Puy Lentils, Bonne Maman Madeleines. Or maybe not. That can't be kept up ad infinitum, so best find a new favourite thing. Turnip, lardy cake, that sort of thing.

“It's nice to see you notice something, StoorieHoose.”

Care to explain @abilockhart? I misread your post then apologised.

Why would drinking water be affected in any way post Brexit?? Is wales leaving us?

Having a few extra tins in for a snow day is normal. Taking the side of tour bath to stockpile tins is insane.

Anyway I have teenagers. A full cupboard one day is empty the next.

God I am doomed already. Don’t Panic Mr Mannering

MadeleineMaxwell you are very much correct. It's a real pity that so many people just don't know how damaging Brexit would be. It will fundamentally alter the lives and destinies of UK people. The mass media in this country is mostly actively working against the interests of the mass of UK people, and for the proprietors of these papers. Check their owner's tax and citizenship status if you want to know more.

Everyone is used to voting for MPs. We do it regularly. If the person we voted for disappoints us then we vote for someone else next time. First past the post is pretty acceptable. Whoever we elect will be an MP, and they’ll do the same job, albeit in their own way. All the voting choices are very similar in nature.

Referendums are fundamentally different. For a start we use them only rarely. The choices are between fundamentally different things such as maintaining the status quo or going for very significant change. There is no way of reversing a decision save calling another referendum. Also, typically the risks all lie with one choice. Because of this, nations that regularly use referendums such as the Swiss use them late in a thorough process that flushes out all the information voters need and debates all the options before the referendum takes place.

On top of this, it is generally most unusual to use a 50% threshold in a referendum, the usual reason given for a higher threshold is that a proper mandate for change needs to be demonstrated. 70% is a common mark. Other nations are aware that a result close to the 50% mark is not a clear mandate with the big risk that it can permanently divide the electorate.

It’s this last situation we’re in. We had just about no proper evidence at all provided by either the Remain or the Leave groups. We are having an inconclusive result force fed to us by biased parts of the media and a clique of out of touch politicians, all of whose careers will benefit. Even business and the BBC are not debating or challenging the interpretation of the Brexit result, as they could and should. The result is in no way a mandate for change worthy of a nation of our standing. Where has single nation politics gone? Why is Britain at a stroke deserting the nations we are in so many ways closest to?

Has anyone heard anyone but the Brexiteers tell us that Brexit will be good? It's all what IT people call vapourware - just talk. We have strong understandings with our EU neighbours, who respect us for what we did in WW2. They just cannot understand why the whole nation is being taken away from them. Do you fancy trade deals with the USA (making love to a gorilla is the right metaphor here), or being alone and dragged in to assist USA military escapades, or having to fend off Russia on our own. We need to get real and stay close to a union of nations that may not be perfect, but it is evolving along peaceful and democratic lines.