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Brexit

What will happen to the Irish border if there is no deal?

20 replies

Chocolatepeanuts · 22/07/2018 16:48

Apologies if this has been dealt with on another thread I have just finished reading the one on the backstop.
If all efforts fail and the UK leave the EU with no deal what will happen at the border? Will TM and the British government be able to impose what they like regardless of backstops or the GFA?

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AWomanIsAnAdultHumanFemale · 22/07/2018 16:51

The UK border in Ireland. Not the Irish border.

Chocolatepeanuts · 22/07/2018 16:52

Ok the border between Ireland and NI.

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Apileofballyhoo · 22/07/2018 16:54

Your guess is as good as anyone else's Chocolate.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 22/07/2018 16:58

Why is it the UK border and not the Irish border, surely it’s either and both? The UK border if you’re in Ireland, the Irish border if you’re in the UK and the UK\Irish border if you’re in another country altogether.

FinallyHere · 22/07/2018 17:01

Interesting question: what outcome shall we expect, when a government, which has signed up to an international agreement, the Good Friday Agreement, passes laws, or amendments to laws, in parliament which are in contravention of that agreement.

What, indeed, are we to expect?

Apileofballyhoo · 22/07/2018 17:02

Maybe because it's a sensitive subject Black and wording is important.

Chocolatepeanuts · 22/07/2018 17:03

Well for clarity I'm from the north of Ireland, maybe if i was from elsewhere in the UK i may have called it something different. Anyway being from here I'm well used to there being many names for one thing! I'm sure everyone reading this knows exactly where I'm talking about and if that's what AWIAAF wants to call it thats fine with me. Smile

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Apileofballyhoo · 22/07/2018 17:18

Grin Chocolate.

Apileofballyhoo · 22/07/2018 17:29

I'm from Ireland and know it as "The Border". Because there is only one.

AWomanIsAnAdultHumanFemale · 22/07/2018 18:09

Why is it the UK border and not the Irish border

Because it’s a U.K. imposed border.

Apileofballyhoo · 22/07/2018 18:18

It's odd that there are preparations in place for Dover but I don't see anything about the land border or anything about UK-Ireland shipping routes.

Peregrina · 22/07/2018 18:28

I just raised that question on the backstop thread. I can't see how not having an Irish Sea border is feasible, whatever the ERG has twisted May's arm to agree to. If the backstop comes into force, it will still be needed for RoI/GB traffic.

FinallyHere · 23/07/2018 08:27

not having an Irish Sea border is feasible

And we also can't imagine the DUP, who hold the balance of power in Westminster, agreeing to that.

It really isn't immediately obvious how the particular circle will be squared.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/07/2018 08:31

I think if the UK crashes out, Ireland will unfortunately have no choice but to put in place a hard border Sad

Fuck knows what the UK will do.

FashionTheLook · 23/07/2018 08:42

It can't be right that the Republic of Ireland is inconvenienced by cost if a hard border is required.

FinallyHere · 23/07/2018 10:40

required .... 'in order for the UK to ¡take back control of their orders'. Hollow laugh

Chocolatepeanuts · 23/07/2018 12:04

Just saw this apile it gets worse and worse

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Chocolatepeanuts · 23/07/2018 12:06

We are fucked.

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Apileofballyhoo · 23/07/2018 13:04

It's horrific.

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