Westminstenders: Don't Panic!

[RedToothBrush]

It's official

Brexit is like an episode of Dads Army with the government, being Captain Mainwaring's trusty band of elite forces doing battle against the evil Mr Barnier.

Yesterday Parliament gave back control to the executive as it surrendered parliamentary sovereignty to Janus faced May. Grieve, it has to be said, truly did look like a broken man as he gave his speech in the commons. Not that we should have too much sympathy. After all he did just put party before country.

So where are we now? The ERG are happy. They have successfully bullied enough until everyone else gave up and folded. They now have no incentive to compromise, as they know that no one can stand up to them. They want no deal, and it's no deal they will force.

The EU are thoroughly fed up and it's difficult to see them do anything but cut us loose saying Brexit means Brexit, this is what you wanted. They have stepped up planning for no deal and their plans were already much more advanced than ours.

We go into the next round of talks with a solution to the Irish Border looking further away than ever. Not helped by the fact that brexit nationalism is restricted to England alone, with many being happy to let NI be sunk into the Irish sea and the favour the rebuilding of Hadrian's wall in order to keep out the foreigners.

It's hard to resist simply sitting down wailing "we doomed". But try to resist and keep saying, you are against this crap. If only so history books don't just say we all agreed to this clusterfuck.

Here have a fluffy bunny to help comfort you.

Zac 'ive already quit over this' Goldsmith @ Zacgoldsmith
As an MP for an area that will be massively affected by Heathrow expansion, it is absurd - perverse - that I had to cram my arguments into a 4 minute speech. Govt taking the piss.

Remember, he's a leaver.

Magic Money Tree

The NHS, armed forces, the farmers have all been promised big wodges of money
The car manufacturers may receive some too
More customs personnel are being hired & trained …

May is spending the UK contribution to the EU several times over
BUT
the UK would keep paying during any transition period
AND
the govt's impact studies show ALL versions of Brexit will mean LESS money than now

Who is costing all this ?
Even before Brexit, all these promises will turn the nation's finances an even deeper rec

• iirc, we already run a 5% deficit per year, even before Brexit was dreamed up.

At least he gets to speak : no Scottish MPs were able to speak in the 15 minutes allocated to the power grab proposed "temporary" for SEVEN years reallocation of devolved matters to Westminster

The Tories - well, intelligent ones like Hammond - don't expect to be in office long enough to have to break these promises
That's all part of poisoning the wells before Labour take over

Of course, if the Tories miscalculate and stay in govt after Brexit, they've screwed themselves

Meanwhile, in an illustration of the law of unintended consequences, seems like Trumps tariffs are sending Harley Davidson overseas ....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44604280

Threats & intimidation work. No news organisation in Britain followed up our reports from last weekend. The BBC stands silent. The bullies are winning."
@woman could you tell me what is the news that didn’t make it to the news?

So what is the OBR doing about all these magic money tree uncosted/unprovenanced promises

Or are they quietly having pink canaries and the MSM is choosing to ignore them

A bit like how Carney's acknowledgement that Brexit and we haven't even left yet has already cost every household £900 was buried and forgotten!

Sam Coates Times @ samcoatestimes
Tom Pursglove, a stalwart of Arron Banks’ campaign, is the home secretary’s choice of PPS. Interesting move.

Expect that Russian enquiry never then.

The big wodges of money to 4 or 5 'recipients' is easy. It's the SAME money but the contestants have to fight for it in a bear pit.

what is the news that didn’t make it to the news
BrexitWife from @carolecadwalla tweets, I think.
"Last week, we published evidence of @andywigmore passing FBI docs to the Kremlin. We showed how they co-ordinated their social media messaging with the Russian government - including threats against MPs & journalists"
Expect that Russian enquiry never then exactly, but useful for coming leadership hoo haa.
Yes prettybird re SNP debating time and Goldsmith's complaint.
"Don't you know who I am" protocol didn't work for him this time. Bless.

Ukip welcomes social media activists linked to alt-right into party
Arrival of Watson, Meechan and Benjamin will alarm some senior figures in ailing party
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/25/ukip-welcomes-social-media-activists-linked-to-alt-right-into-party?CMP=share_btn_tw
Bad news. Savvy fascist bantz, with vast young SM reach.

Ah yes i get it now.
Thanks woman

Sorry if this has already been posted - I couldn't see it. www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/25/nine-eu-states-to-sign-off-on-joint-military-intervention-force

9 EU states, including the UK, have agreed to the set-up of a European rapid-deployment military force.

The European Intervention Initiative is outside the EU’s structures, so will allow for full UK involvement after Brexit.
The UK has traditionally been wary of efforts to build a European defence cooperation that could challenge Nato structures, but has become a champion of such initiatives since the vote to leave the EU.

Theresa May is to have a cabinet sleepover at her Chequers country retreat at the end of next week
to finalise the Brexit white paper in a showdown dubbed "the body bag summit" by some MPs.

Cabinet told to bring overnight bags.
Er, I thought Chequers only has 10-12 bedrooms.
I don't want to think about who might be sharing rooms together …

They may have to give her their mobile phones each night, according to best MN advice for sleepovers,

• this sleazy bunch probably would post photos on perv sites - and also to try to prevent leaks < no chance ! >

BUT
it's all pointless because they are still deciding which of 2 options the EU has previously rejected:
Max Fac vs the UK handling goods on EU behalf

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-to-host-cabinet-sleepover-to-finalise-brexit-white-paper-11416823

"It's being called the body bag summit," said one MP last week.
"They've either got to back her or quit.

A couple of cabinet ministers could be coming out in black bags".

< well that would help the bed problem a bit >

The sleepover is scheduled for 5-6 July,
which is TOO LATE for the 27-28 June deadline, when the EU Council meet to approve the (non-existent) Withdrawal Agreement.

So the cabinet will fight over which of 2 options to choose - both already rejected by the EU - and well past the deadline for the WA

9 EU states, including the UK, have agreed to the set-up of a European rapid-deployment military force.

I read that this morning and couldn't help but wonder what those Leavers felt, the ones who gave their reason for leaving that they didn't want an EU Army. Seems like if we are signing up for it any way, their reason for voting for Brexit is destroyed. The same people don't have problems with NATO, which to my knowledge has always been led by an American.

MrsRRR Mon 25-Jun-18 11:05:55
woman
A house on the north Antrim coast would do me fine

Not if you're trying to get away from post-Brexit UK.

Well...I have my theories about what will happen in NI after brexit :)

9 EU states, including the UK, have agreed to the set-up of a European rapid-deployment military force.

Thank you for posting this link childrenofthesun. I find this very interesting. I have never been able to understand some leavers have a Britannia rules the waves attitude, yet voted for the last three governments which have progressively slashed our military spending and made tens of thousands of personnel redundant.

Given lessons of history full EU military participation and co-operation is logical. The bits of that article that are interesting are....

•	The UK has previously been wary of building a European defence cooperation, but now has suddenly become co operative. Funny that. 

•	A French government source suggests UK involvement is welcome due to similar analytical approaches on how to tackle a crisis. All this is still a long way from those 2016 speeches May gave. Remember when she basically said they need our defence skills,  and embarrassingly juxtaposed defence cooperation with our leaving dues? Rather shabbily she ( or Nick Timothy) tried to threaten to be uncooperative on defence if we didn’t get what we wanted overall.
•	This European Intervention Initiative is outside the EU’s structures, so full UK involvement is possible. But it’s borne of the need to have a harmonised response and strategic planning with rapid response capability, nothing to do with letting us participate because we’re special.
•	There was a <span class="italic">separate</span> meeting of ministers in Luxembourg, to discuss EU rules for military projects. ( Permanent Structured Cooperation on security and defence, or Pesco.) Although it is unclear if the UK could participate in this, as a third country it’s pretty obvious we couldn’t.

I also wonder why address this now? It's not all about us. The likely triggers were a nut case in the White House and more Russian interference from their regular recces into our air, sea, and web space?

A house on the north Antrim coast would do me fine
I'll start looking MrsR
Is Bangor in that manor? I like this song about it......

I also wonder why address this now?
Sweden did this a few months ago:
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-war-prepare-cold-war-leaflet-public-information-a8363191.html

Are we the only EU country with proven Russian interference in internal elections and who had attacks like that one in Salisbury?

I know I'm posting randomly but the need to get things off my ( ample) chest is too powerful.

Regarding Boris and his “ F*!# business” attitude . I only just read this article from last week.

What I find interesting is it echos my thoughts that, whatever is or isn’t cobbled together it’s too late- the damage is done.

Who's view do you trust Sir Mark Boleat ( former recent chairman of the City of London Corporation) or Boris Johnson? Boleat confirmed what we all know that...

“a seepage of jobs from the capital was already underway and that the political rows over a deal or no-deal outcome was now ‘irrelevant’ to City chief executives.”
“Banks including JP Morgan, Lloyds, Barclays, HSBC and Goldman Sachs have already established subsidiaries in other EU countries, or moved part of their business...”

“The City would not die as the financial capital of Europe but would be damaged by Brexit.
....I would say if the City has 80% of international business now, in future it will have maybe 60%.”

“This is a 10-year operation. In the short term it won’t be noticeable in terms of staff. Banks won’t be putting out press releases saying they are moving some of their operations because of Brexit because they don’t want the publicity. They are just getting on with it.
Moving costs millions. Banks have had teams of 100 working on Brexit. It is an expensive process. You have to identify which city to go to, applying for a [banking] licence costs millions, then you have to find the IT staff, find accommodation.”

He also believes the government is in such disarray ... and he does not think financial services will get a special passporting deal to allow them to continue pan-European services from London.

With no special status with the EU, now the most likely option, the industry would lost £18bn a year in revenue which would put 31,000 to 35,000 jobs at risk along with £3.5bn to £5bn in tax revenue.”
Add the knock-on effect for related industries leads to an estimated further losses of £14bn to £18bn in revenue and 34,000 to 40,000 jobs and £5bn in tax.
Asked whether the government was aware of the daily bleed of financial services to the rest of the EU, Boleat said: “Not enough, that’s the worry.”

So I'm glad I've been on three marches and will protest the ludicrousness of what has happened until I die. But in parallel I guess remainers need to work on inner acceptance that the damage is already done in terms of wisdom, reputation, trustworthiness and economics.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/20/uk-could-lose-10bn-a-year-in-city-related-tax-revenue-after-brexit-mark-boleat