Westministenders: Groundhog Day

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Groundhog day is 2nd Feb.

Its also today. And yesterday. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before. And the day before.

We have all turned into Bill Murray.

That's Brexit in the UK.

The only progress seems to be linguistic gymnastics not policy.

No action has been implemented, we are still on words going nowhere.

Tick tock, tick tock.

Exclusive: Trump administration fears trade deal will not be done by 2020 election, Nigel Farage says

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/24/exclusive-trump-administration-fears-trade-deal-will-not-done/

Donald Trump’s administration fears they will not be able sign a trade deal with Britain before the next US election, Nigel Farage has claimed.

The former Ukip leader said the president’s inner circle has become frustrated by the “mixed messages” from Downing Street about the Brexit transition phase.
< imagine how frustrated Barnier must feel >

Cigars, selfies and drinks till 2am: Nigel Farage's meet-up with Team Trump revealed

Amazing the Yanks haven't realised he & UKIP are politically dead parrots in the UK

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/24/cigars-selfies-drinks-till-2am-nigel-farages-meet-up-team-trump/

At last: the incredible truth about Jeremy Corbyn and spying

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/02/24/last-incredible-truth-jeremy-corbyn-spying/

Suddenly, it all falls into place. Think about it. Of course Jeremy Corbyn isn’t a Communist spy.

No – he’s an English spy.

This inspired theory was advanced this week by Sean Kemp, a former special adviser to Nick Clegg.

“My dream scenario,” said Mr Kemp,

“is for Corbyn to be an MI5 agent who went deep undercover as a Labour backbencher decades ago – and now has no idea how to get himself out of this situation.”

Oops, 1980s - before MANY voters were born

BigChoc, my thoughts go one of three ways.

1. It could be setting up a story to distract from other totally unrelated stuff and a totally unrelated smear.

2. It could be a story to create guilt by association if Farage thing goes off, to tar Labour with the stench and fear of a spy.

3. It could be both, knowing that the likely effect would to cast huge doubt over brexit in the process, which will particularly harm the Tory party through similar association via their own growing Bluekip support.

One is an implausible coincidence.

Two would be perhaps somewhat prudent given the possible scale of such a political bombshell.

Three is also a hedged bet approach mixing one and two, so possibly the most likely to my mind.

IF Farage IS caught up / implicated what do the government do? He is a British citizen afterall.

Have they been involved? Will they get involved publicly? Will they support or throw under the bus?

It could rid them of a political opponent, but then he doesn't really have much power apart from through personality. Yet this is through his popularity from supporters who are now supporting the Cons. Plus looking like you had no idea about any of this going on under your nose, looks bad for the government. (Ironically they might well have had MI5 and MI6 all over it but its not public so cant be neither claimed nor denied).

Timing is so crucial to this.

Something is brewing. Whether it sees the light of day publicly is another matter. Politics both here and in the US could mean it goes absolutely nowhere from here.

I think you can take from everything going on and reasonably conclude that there is a fair amount of poo in pants both here and in the US. And thats theres shit going on behind the surface.

Depends on what suits the opportunist.

But coincidence? Coincidence my arse.

Donald Trump’s administration fears they will not be able sign a trade deal with Britain before the next US election, Nigel Farage has claimed.

The former Ukip leader said the president’s inner circle has become frustrated by the “mixed messages” from Downing Street about the Brexit transition phase.

So a hint from Trump that the transition period should be very short or non-existent?

Or a hint that one way or the other the government needs to make up its mind?

I think it's the former. The Trump administration has no interest in anything but a hard Brexit.

Farage posting the photo of himself with Trump... makes me think he's trying to remind everyone that he's got 'friends in high places'. To protect himself, in case of any questions...

^So a hint from Trump that the transition period should be very short or non-existent?

Or a hint that one way or the other the government needs to make up its mind?^

Or a liar with an agenda twisting what was actually said?

Here's another pic of Farage.

Beth Rigby @ bethrigby
Starmer confirms that customs unions shift in Labour policy; Want to remain in a customs union and EU will lead on trade talks post-Brexit. Clear blue water now between Labour and the Tories #marr

Until Corbyn or McDonnell come along to contradict him.

Does Trump have no insightful intelligence passing from U.K. advisors to his inner circle or does he just not listen?

At the end of the day Farage is like a slightly smarmy double glazing salesman who is in reality nothing but a third rate radio presenter. He is like a Katie Hopkins type -a controversial self publicist who has unsuccessfully failed to become a UKIP MP five times but has some minor celebrity status.

He was a lazy fraud as an MEP - and was stripped of his pension for misusing EU resources in the end wasn't he?

He has links to Assange and rumoured other serious dodgy dealings.

For most people getting an audience with POTUS is very difficult. Yet Nige has regular, and easily achieved photo opps with the President.Who advises Trump? No-one? Nige is an embarrassing non entity. Some one needs to tell him this straight.

Presumably if Trump was regularly hanging out with Neil Hamilton, Trump would be advised against it. Yet Hamilton has actually had more political status than this non entity.

It's weird beyond weird.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-liberal-democrats-legislation-eu-europe-deadline-negotiations-house-of-lords-eu-a8225916.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Brexit: Passing key changes to legislation in time now ‘impossible’ as Liberal Democrats threaten to force hundreds of votes
Exclusive: Opponents say ministers have not left enough time for the legislation to be properly scrutinised by Parliament

Opponents said ministers have not left enough time for the changes to be properly scrutinised by Parliament, and warned it is now “logistically impossible” to pass all the legislation needed to avoid legal confusion after Brexit.

Senior Liberal Democrat sources told The Independent the party’s peers will probably try to call debates or votes on “at least half” of the 800-1,000 changes to EU statutes the Government says are needed in order to transfer them into British law before Brexit – potentially taking up weeks of parliamentary time.

Eu withdrawal bill more important than a deal. Rushing this and fucking it up in the process by missing crucial issues, will create contradictions and loop holes in law. This means it won't work and injustice will happen. But don't worry you won't be able to take the state to the ECJ over it.

In other words this is a long drawn out car crash in the making.

And this is not a shock nor opposition parties being difficult. You simply can't shortcut something this complex. Except May is trying to.

Does Trump have no insightful intelligence passing from U.K. advisors to his inner circle or does he just not listen?

Have you watched the news in the last 18months?

Trump doesn’t pay heed to the intelligence communities. As in, they’ve literally had to condense them from written memos to delivering them orally for a much reduced time as he can’t pay attention and gets bored. Also, he doesn’t listen to what they say because it’s not good news for him - they tell him about how russia has and will continue to meddle in the elections and his response to undermine the intelligence agencies rather than do anything about it, because he himself is implicated by what they are telling him.

Farage and trump and Assange and the far right parties in Europe and Rohrabacher (who was said to be the other person along with trump who was paid by putin at a gop conference to which Paul Ryan immediately said “this stays between these walls, we’re family” (or something along those lines) are all connected and it’s not coincidental at all. It is coordinated and they are pursuing shadowy goals that benefit the Kremlin.

Put it on the side of a bus

Jeremy Corbyn vows to use 'funds returned from Brussels' as he pumps £8BILLION into public services after Brexit

In a speech on Labour’s Brexit position, he will say of the Tories: “Labour stands for a different future"

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-brussels-funds-12084323.amp?service%5B%5D=responsive&service%5B%5D=tablet&__twitter_impression=true

It's obviously only possible to 'remain' in a customs union if you are already in it. If Labour are proposing setting up a new customs union, how is that different from the Tories?

From the Tweet 'Farage is the recognised leader of the Brexit movement'. Then the Brexit Arms crowd get sniffy when there is a mention of racism and xenophobia, when Farage's personal history is well known.

Clear blue water now between Labour and the Tories

Not really. They're both committed to Brexit. And if I were to vote for that Labour, people would just say "well you voted for Brexit".

Eu withdrawal bill more important than a deal With totalitarian bells on.

I still don't get it. Trump is -well Trump. But obvs he has usual POTUS high security protection around him.

There are plenty of other non entities e.g. Neil Hamilton and Katie Hopkins who would love to bask in his orange POTUS glow. Why does Farage get through regularly and others don't -you couldn't make it up.

George Galloway in his day was in the Farage category. Would he have got all this POTUS photo opps?

Because Farage is part of the coordinated attempt to push the Kremlin's agenda and the others are not.

Well, I don't know that they're not but there isn't the same amount of evidence that they are as there is for Farage, where there is lots and lots of information out in the public domain that points to that.

In a speech on Labour’s Brexit position, he will say of the Tories: “Labour stands for a different future"

A future that 70% of his own party don't want ?

Given how much feedback he must have been getting from the grass roots (bear in mind my local candidates are both Remainers - admitted to me they're having problems as it is) to carry on regardless is actually pure Tory.

So much for Corbyn the revolutionary. Now we have Corbyn the tyrant.

Because Farage is part of the coordinated attempt to push the Kremlin's agenda and the others are not.

I agree that's logical, save for the fact that the Kremlin has talent, intelligence, money and experience. They would recruit someone much better than a third rate radio show host.

Even the brexiteers don't really like Farage much these days. It's all about the Moggster.

I'm just interested to see who of the main brexiteers will write a book in 20 years time, spilling the beans and admitting brexit was a mistake. I'm thinking Gove at the moment.