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Westministers: Happy New Year?

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RedToothBrush · 05/01/2018 11:37

And so we enter a New Year full of hope that things might just be about to recover from our national nervous breakdown... or perhaps not.

As we have Damien Green ejected from his role as Deputy PM over allegations of inappropriate conduct towards woman and use of porn at the end of last year, 2018 sees a bright new progressive dawn with the appointment to the role of universities regulator of Toby Young. A man who has deleted 20,000 tweets including many which are inappropriate and offensive to women, is a fan of eugenics and hates the working class and disabled.

Meanwhile the NHS is facing a crisis which is totally unexpected to the government and couldn't possibly have been planned for by a man who has over seen it for over five years. Which naturally bodes really well for Brexit planning.

We are apparently planning to join the TPP. Never mind geopolitics we can move the UK to the Pacific region.

We still are not ready for trade talks because the Cabinet can not agree on anything. Not that it sounds like they have actually discussed anything along these lines yet.

Rumours are that the Cabinet - including arch leavers such as Gove - are leaning towards supporting May and a softer option, despite the disgust of Johnson, who once again is the subject of malicious chatter about his sacking in a forthcoming Cabinet Reshuffle.

There is talk of further Tory Party war with the revelation that membership of the party has dropped to a core of just 70,000 hardline authoritarian men, most of whom are over 60. Tory HQ now wants to (perhaps with some good reason to prevent the loons) rewrite the constitution and limit the power of local associations to select candidates. The Tory party is now lining up to be a power struggle between internal authoritarians, who don't like democracy voices or structure.

Meanwhile the Labour Party membership now apparently overwhelmingly looks upon staying in the customs union and single market favourably and is in favour of a second referendum. In opposition to the leadership who are utterly committed to Hard Brexit. Much to the annoyance of Lord Adonis who is pitching a fit about government corruption and incompetence and being accused of being elite because he going skiing. Unlike of prominent Leavers who are in touch with the working class.

And finally Nigel Farage has got a meeting with Barnier. Farage, unlike Clegg, Clarke and Adonis, will not be accused by the Right Wing Press of undermining the government's negotiating position because...

It appears that we are in for another year of Brexit nonsense then.

We've not even heard mention of Gibraltar yet.

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RedToothBrush · 10/01/2018 14:37

Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Justine Greening is very publicly sitting in the EU rebels’ naughty corner next to Dominic Grieve. Damian Green is more loyally not #PMQs

Anna Soubry MP @Anna_Soubry
For the avoidance of doubt @tnewtondunn #JustineGreening was a founding member of the #naughtycorner

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DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 14:43

Philip Davies seems unhappy about the reshuffle.

Childish, I know, but all of a sudden I'm a lot more well disposed to it ....

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/09/white-male-ministers-risk-unfairly-hoofed-theresa-mays-reshuffle/

The biter bit ?

RedToothBrush · 10/01/2018 14:53

Hoofed out?

So how many women are in Cabinet on a permanent basis? Of the women in Cabinet only six always attend.

The number of men in government was reduced from 89 to 82. That's a difference of just seven. SEVEN.

There are still two men for every woman.

I notice his partner is Esther McVey. That's a match...

In case he hadn't noticed, the party has a particular problem in attracting support from women. How does he intend to ensure that this changes? Its either try this, or face a long term problem on the opposition benches.

Or does he want to repeal the vote for women?

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Cailleach1 · 10/01/2018 14:54

Please tell me we won't hear from Suella more often. She just spouts rhetoric, as if she was a recording. And then continues where she left off if queried about it.

woman11017 · 10/01/2018 15:03

Been a few famousish people visiting the anti Brexit permanents outside House of Commons today: Feargal Sharkey and I think the drummer from Pink Floyd. Here's Billy Bragg:
Maybe the Rod Stewart of the cabinet could form a Truth and Reconciliation Dad Band with them.

Westministers: Happy New Year?
Cailleach1 · 10/01/2018 15:03

Speaking to Conservative Home, she said: “In the event of no deal that’s great as well for us. The ideal is a free trade agreement but in the event of that not working, no deal is something we will capitalise on using our strengths and the opportunities that brings.”

An example. Means sweet FA.

I am going for a job. They will ask me what in particular makes me suitable or qualified to do it. I will answer saying I will capitalise on using my strengths and opportunities that brings.

I am asking the bank for a loan and they ask how I can pay it back. I will answer saying I will capitalise on using my strengths and opportunities that brings.

I could go on like this forever, but will spare you all. SFA.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cabinet-reshuffle-latest-brexit-minister-theresa-may-appointment-no-deal-great-uk-suella-fernandes-a8151421.html

Cailleach1 · 10/01/2018 15:04

Ooh. Teenage kicks, woman.

DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 15:17

Been a few famousish people visiting the anti Brexit permanents outside House of Commons today: Feargal Sharkey and I think the drummer from Pink Floyd.

Caught an interview with Eric Clapton, Saturday R4. Touching briefly on his well-publicised flirtations with right-wing ideology (he said I was a nasty person, really awful ) he said that he had backed remain, as he was aware of how many people - and their families - had settled in the UK as a result of it's membership. "And it didn't seem right to take that away"

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 15:29

The parallels with the US abounds (not necessarily the article linked - though I'd love to get to the point of open booing here - but the quadary he's created for himself).

Andrew Beatty
‏*@AndrewBeatty*
Trump is in a very tight political fix. He needs to broaden his appeal while feeding a base that bridges no concession. Unclear if/how he squares the circle. www.yahoo.com/news/boos-show-risk-trumps-first-strategy-105521748.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 15:39

Love it or hate it

Faisal Islam
‏*@faisalislam*
It’s been a long Brexit journey for Marmite - threatened with boycotts 15 months ago after Unilever put up price following the post referendum sterling slump, now a symbol of Brexit Britain ceremonially presented to Barnier...

Jim Waterson
‏*@jimwaterson*
Pro-Brexit campaigners present a basket of British goods to Michel Barnier. PG Tips and Marmite are made by anti-Brexit Anglo-Dutch company Unilever, Hendrick's is produced by a business that's concerned about Brexit hitting sales... it's not hard to check is it.

Westministers: Happy New Year?
DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 15:50

Trump is in a very tight political fix. He needs to broaden his appeal while feeding a base that bridges no concession. Unclear if/how he squares the circle.

War ! What is it good for ?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 15:54

Just as well they've reduced the restrictions on developing more "useable" nuclear warheads then!

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/09/us-to-loosen-nuclear-weapons-policy-and-develop-more-usable-warheads

DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 16:16

Time to dust off the neutron bomb plans ?

We could maybe call it "The Quark Bomb" Hmm
Where is L'Acrobat when you need him ?
Why is Donald Trump like a 2-bit censored ?

(That's enough obscure 80s references - Ed. )

DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 17:02

I see Assange may be evicted soon.

What a shame.

woman11017 · 10/01/2018 17:03

he said I was a nasty person, really awful
I like that: I wonder if he links his troubled impoverished child hood and heroin addiction to his then predilection for the extreme right.
Could be so useful if people chose to hear.
Good for him.

woman11017 · 10/01/2018 17:14

Lots of cross men/trolls attacking Oprah today. She has them scared; she always did.

DGRossetti · 10/01/2018 17:31

I like that: I wonder if he links his troubled impoverished child hood and heroin addiction to his then predilection for the extreme right.

He was pretty open that it was alcohol above all else.

A really telling quote was "I did consider suicide in the 80s, but then it would have stopped me drinking."

I missed the start of the interview, and turned on to hear someone talking about living lies, and having been bought up in a lie, thinking his Nan was his mum.

mrsreynolds · 10/01/2018 17:50

How many of you think trumps medical on Friday will give the gop what it need to get rid of him?

woman11017 · 10/01/2018 17:54

Hope for the best, plan for the worst MrsR Pence is well spooky.

mrsreynolds · 10/01/2018 18:03

Yep 😮😣😔

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 18:14

Not a chance, I would imagine.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 10/01/2018 18:16

I think I’ve forgotten what competence looks like

Theresa May 'Breached Her Own Ministerial Code' With Tory Party Reshuffle Stunt In Downing Street

Rules say party activity banned on Government property

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/theresa-may-breached-ministerial-code-on-reshuffle-day-with-tory-party-pr-stunt-in-downing-street-labour-claims_uk_5a5644ade4b0d614e48bcd1d/?__twitter_impression=true

RedToothBrush · 10/01/2018 18:25

Trump will be declared saner than the most sane person ever. Bigly.

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HashiAsLarry · 10/01/2018 18:29

Taken a while to catch up over last couple of days. So much news, so little time.

Sees pains post, reads link, bangs head on desk. FFS they really are something aren't they?

HashiAsLarry · 10/01/2018 18:29

There has never been a person saner (sic) than Trump.