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Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....

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RedToothBrush · 05/11/2017 12:28

Lost track of politics in the last week or so?

Someone asked how do I keep on top of this? I’ve struggled this week there is so much going on.

Brexit seems to be on a bit of a back burner and we have become utterly swamped in mud and sleaze and corruption allegations

So here is a summary of the last week:

  1. Government defeated over the impact reports due to an ancient parliamentary protocol. They must release papers to the public though this is likely to be heavily redacted.
  2. Currently we are holding talks about talks with the EU. Instead of speeding up talks. They are annoyed at us for this.
  3. Baroness Anelay, the minister responsible for getting the Repel Bill through the Lords, quit citing an injury caused by jumping out of a helicopter several years ago. She was the second person to quit this role. Lord Bridges quit saying it was impossible task.
  4. Michael Gove has joined the Brexit Cabinet, which now has a majority of Leavers.
  5. There is currently no one employed at the Brexit department for strategic planning.
  6. Brexit Bill likely to face even more opposition in the face of Williamson’s self promotion. More Remainers who have been loyal to May talking of joining the Rebel Forces.
  7. The has been a threat to rig the Lords to pass the Repel Bill according to Lord Adonis
  8. Clegg, Adonis and Clarke went to see Barnier. Farage got jealous.
  9. Talks for Stormont broke down. No direct rule but not home rule. Who is ruling is a mystery, but the same can be said in England at present. DUP are not getting their dosh.
  10. FTA may not be possible on lines UK want as it would be better than Canada and South Korea and that’s not legally allowed. The real problem for the UK is services.
  11. EHCR related issues – prisoner voting rights and letter to Romanian which brings into question whether the EHCR is deliberately being flouted.
  12. Clause in the data protection bill which allows it to be ignored ‘cos immigration’.
  13. The Electoral Commission are being sued for allowing over spending by Vote Leave
  14. Arron Banks is being investigated by the Electoral Commission over how he donated to political causes
  15. UKIP whistleblowers reported donations they thought were odd and not declared but only just has come to light
  16. Arron Banks is winding up a charity under investigation by the Charities Commission
  17. Arron Banks paid for Kate Hoey to go to Washington DC.
  18. Lord Ashcroft apparently exposed by the Bermuda hack, like Robert Mercer
  19. Steve Baker reported for taking money from the mysterious donor to the DUP
  20. Priti Patel breaks ministerial code with an undisclosed trip to Israel with lobbyist. May says she has done nothing wrong, despite it being clear breech of the rules.
  21. Michael Fallon quit over multiple incidents
  22. Damien Green embroiled in accusation over Kate Maltby. Also having a fight with former counter terrorism copper who he has history with over ‘extreme porn’ found on his computer during a raid. Copper previously said he had been set up in the paper but dropped the accusation. Green is denying everything
  23. Charlie Elphicke has had the whip removed and case has been referred to police. Says he has done nothing wrong and isn’t even aware of what he has been accused of.
  24. Steven Crabb under investigation for sexting. Has apologised.
  25. Michael Garnier under investigation for dildo buying. Has apologised
  26. Daniel Kawcyznski allegedly tried to set up dates with aides and wealthy friends
  27. Dan Poulter reported by fellow tory MP Andrew Bridgen for allegedly putting hands up skirts. Whips told in 2010.
  28. Chris Pincher alleged pound shop Weinstein who attempted to untuck the shirt of former Olympic rower and tory activist Alex Story.
  29. Gavin Barwell former whip and May’s special adviser. Broke special advisor code by tweeting politically controversial things. Is accused of being complicit in hiding the bodies and not taking action.
  30. Gavin Williamson gave himself a promotion and pissed everyone off. As former whip knows all the dirt but is vulnerable as a result of that, as he didn’t report or discipline offenders.
  31. ‘The Lift Lunger’ – as yet unnamed Tory MP said to have ‘attacked’ Labour MP in taxi. Date rape drugs possibly involved.
  32. Boris Johnson, Alok Sharma and Tobias Ellwood all named as having contact with the mysterious Maltese professor named in the Papadopoulos indictment.
  33. Farage makes anti-Semitic remarks on LBC. That’s Farage, a person of interest to the FBI.
  34. Three indictments in USA for Trump Russia. Which implicate a whole load of people by association.
  35. Some stuff is going on in Saudi Arabia which should have half an eye kept on it.
  36. Jared O’Mara, Clive Lewis, Ivan Lewis and Kelvin Hopkins on the Labour Shit List. Also a rape allegation against a Labour activist which was shut down by a senior Labour figure

This week the Repel Bill and the Budget. Plus no doubt, lots more scandal.

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TheElementsSong · 08/11/2017 10:23

Patty Damn, it was satire? Blush What does it say that nobody can tell satire from real posts anymore? It was indistinguishable from genuine Brexit-y posts passim Grin

woman11017 · 08/11/2017 10:24

@DPJHodges

Actually, joking aside, this is an appalling way for May to get rid of Patel. It's like a Big Brother sacking, in real time, on live TV. Classless all round.

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:29

www.ft.com/content/1c51a9dc-c3c3-11e7-a1d2-6786f39ef675
Amber Rudd urges removal of students from net migration data
Home secretary on collision course with Theresa May over immigration policy

Theresa May is said by one minister to be “in a minority of one” in the cabinet in believing that students must be counted in the target, and she has been implacable in her resistance to any change in policy.

But Ms Rudd believes that unless the prime minister changes her position in the coming weeks, the government will suffer a humiliating defeat early next year when the Commons considers a bill to set up a post-Brexit immigration regime.

One ally of the home secretary said it was certain that there would be an attempt to amend the Immigration bill: “We’re going to have to do something about this ourselves, or we will be forced into doing it.”

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RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:31

www.politics.co.uk/news/2017/11/08/single-parent-families-could-be-left-destitute-as-home-offic
Single parent families could be left 'destitute' as Home Office accesses child maintenance records

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woman11017 · 08/11/2017 10:33

Exclusive: No 10 knew about Patel meetings
The JC understands that Ms Patel was told by Number 10 not to include extra meetings so as not to embarrass the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.
www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/no-10-knew-about-priti-patel-israel-meetings-1.447605

I think Patel's another patsy for the ravenous brexiteers.

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:34

Sam Coates Times‏*@SamCoatesTimes*
Uh oh - is something going wrong in Number 10

www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/no-10-knew-about-priti-patel-israel-meetings-1.447605
Exclusive: No 10 knew about Patel meetings
The JC understands that Ms Patel was told by Number 10 not to include extra meetings so as not to embarrass the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

wtf?!

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Cailleach1 · 08/11/2017 10:34

This is good on how Johnson spent his career grabbing headlines and manufacturing an image which distracted from his mendacious reality. I must admit I was always quite immune to the distraction. He was too poisonous and had a history of lying.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-iran-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-pr-tricks-to-deal-with-gaffes-a8042666.html

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:36

Marie Le Conte‏*@youngvulgarian*
So...this kind of looks like it was briefed out by Patel's people to drag Number 10 into it? Ah man, what a mess this all is.

Jane Merrick‏*@janemerrick23*

She’s not going down without a fight. Which is spectacularly ill-judged.

Wow. Just wow.

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woman11017 · 08/11/2017 10:37

Is there another funny smell?

Very important vote in HOC tomorrow, impact statements vanishing and budget coming up.

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:38

Kevin Schofield‏*@PolhomeEditor*
If this is true - and @stephenpollard is very good - then Number 10 have been misleading journalists all week about what Theresa May knew and when.

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LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 10:39

Actually, joking aside, this is an appalling way for May to get rid of Patel. It's like a Big Brother sacking, in real time, on live TV. Classless all round

Alternatively, it's the very best way to dispose of an errant minister - pour encourage les autres.

I'm struggling to find any sympathy for Patel. She can't have been that bright if she thought she could overcome the Tories inherent racism and sexism. I find myself if her current situation - while clearly of her own making - has been engineered by dark forces.

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:40

Marcus Dysch‏ @MarcusDysch
No 10 knew on Aug 24 that Patel had met Bibi. They knew about the Yuval Rotem meeting. Then tried to get Patel to cover it up, again. Utter chaos at the heart of government. May's future also surely now in question...

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RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:42

Eurosluggard‏*@eurosluggard*
Perception overseas of #PritiPatel mess: Theresa May’s ministers are so badly out of control that she had to sack one despite being desperate not to. #GlobalBritain

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RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:43

Adam Bienkov‏*@AdamBienkov*
Downing Street has claimed repeatedly all week that May didn't know about Patel's meetings until last Friday. Will be dynamite if that turns out to have been a lie.

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Cailleach1 · 08/11/2017 10:47

Looking at the paradise papers. The Queen's investment in a company which screwed some of the poorest. One thing the powerful of the UK cannot be accused is of treating their most vulnerable any better than outsiders. It is striking really. I am not saying the Queen knew about it. Don't know. I wouldn't assume she would care other than how it affects her image. There are so many snouts in the trough that influence legislation to suck others dry. Chap on Breakfast saying that Charlie and ilk have a responsibility to manage their economic affairs well. That is not the crux, though. Charlie has the ear of gov't. He has an influence which others have not.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/paradise-papers-queen-brighthouse-investment-poverty-premium-poor-rent-to-buy-tax-leaks-haven-a8039986.html

HashiAsLarry · 08/11/2017 10:47

This government lying repetitively and acting classless. What a shocker Wink

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 10:48

Downing Street has claimed repeatedly all week that May didn't know about Patel's meetings until last Friday. Will be dynamite if that turns out to have been a lie.

Er, on the new political-MOH scale, that's probably just enough to get the lid of a new jar of jam. If you've run it under hot water and are using a dyson-grippy thing.

On this new scale, "political armageddon" will probably be the equivalent of a smashed vase ?

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 10:50

One thing the powerful of the UK cannot be accused is of treating their most vulnerable any better than outsiders.

But some of those most vulnerable will be doffing their caps and and saying "Gawd bless you M'am" - remember the royals are special ...

woman11017 · 08/11/2017 10:54

@DPJHodges

So to summarise - Priti Patel is flying back to be sacked because Downing Street has become aware of two meetings they told her to cover up...
@DPJHodges
All we need now is for Benny Hill to go running up Downing Street, whilst slapping a little bald man on the head, and being chased by a group of scantily clad female traffic wardens...

RedToothBrush · 08/11/2017 10:54

Robert Peston‏*@Peston*
Sensational implications of JC story. 1) PM knew about and endorsed Patel freelancing with Israel Gov, despite Downing St denials; 2) & Patel has therefore tainted PM by not following government protocol. This is worse for Patel than PM

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woman11017 · 08/11/2017 10:58

The music is a cheerer upper. Smile

Westministenders: A week in politics is a long time....
thecatfromjapan · 08/11/2017 11:04

I.can't.keep.up.

I'm stalled at the disappearing Impact Papers.

Which is so wrong, on so many, many levels.

LurkingHusband · 08/11/2017 11:05

Article about hacking, democracy and technology in the faithful El Reg

www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/08/hacking_democracy/

It's funny, a lot of Brexiteer sneering about this petition can be countered beautifully by suggesting that it's unBritish to win by foul means - certainly online. I wonder if that's a sentiment that might be a thread to unravel some of the more cogent leaver minds ?

missmoon · 08/11/2017 11:05

What on earth is going on?!!

HashiAsLarry · 08/11/2017 11:14

I think we've jumped from oh look squirrel territory into oh shit squirrel invasion.

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