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Westministenders: The Return of Parliamentary Sleaze?

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 14:35

Brexit is quietly going round and round in ever decreasing circles.

The story is that the European parliament will not agree to a transition period beyond 1st January 2020.

The third minister responsible for getting the Repel Bill through the Lords has quit. There are now nearly 400 amendments. It is scheduled for 6 days parliamentary time in the Commons from this coming week. With another 2 possible the following week. Rather bravely AFTER the budget. Bored with May, CVs are being submitted for the position of Chancellor.

Interest Rates are looking likely to rise next week too with the message being 'this is as good as it gets'.

Another team of MPs has gone to the EU to see if they can check up on May and her team. This is unlikely to work as Nicola Sturgeon came across a brick wall.

And then there are the many many distractions from it all.

Catalonia has declared independence, which will consume EU time and energy.

There are rumours that the first prosecution in Trump Russia will be Monday (Guess who is currently in the US. Yep, the gurning one). And there are increasing muttering about Russia over here, with Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg being called to respond to a Select Committee investigation into Fake News.

And then there's the sleaze. Jared O'Mara seems to be the first in the queue. There are rumours more will be outed in several parties. Suggestions include May's right hand man Damien Green who was previously named in 2008. And the Tory Whips have a 'sleaze list' which suggests they know whats going on, but have done nothing.

This morning we have Gove making ill advised jokes about Weinstein in this political climate. With Neil Kinnock laughing heartily in response.

Anything that happens will be political to discredit opponents not because there is a change of attitude towards the treatment of women. We know this, because of who is leading the charge on this. The skeletons are being dusted off out the cupboard rather than exposed for the first time in dramatic fashion.

Things, could take a very unexpected turn against this background.

Don't bet against it.

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 21:28

www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/an-army-of-fake-twitter-accounts-invades-ireland-why-1.3271340
An army of fake Twitter accounts invades Ireland. Why?
Broadcaster Philip Boucher-Hayes is one of several high-profile users targeted by Twitter bots

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 21:34

Tim Shipman‏*@ShippersUnbound*
EXC: Some prisoners to get the vote, Sunday Times reveals tonight
Govt U-Turn KLAXON: After 11 years resisting ECHR ruling ministers are to give day release prisoners voting rights

Interesting...

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 21:37

Tim Shipman‏*@ShippersUnbound*
Prisoners on day release with sentences under a year will be able to vote under govt plan. Cue Tory rebellion

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/28/tory-donors-tell-may-no-deal-is-better-than-a-bad-brexit?CMP=twt_gu
Tory donors tell May: no deal is better than a bad Brexit
Senior supporters urge prime minister to keep open the option of walking away from negotiations with Brussels

Tory donors say we are buying no deal.

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 21:43

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/28/will-irk-examiner-students-claim-feel-pressured-pander-anti/
'You will irk the examiner': Students claim they feel pressured to pander to anti-Brexit bias in essays

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 21:58

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/28/stephen-crabb-sent-young-woman-sexually-explicit-messages-rejecting/amp/
Stephen Crabb sent young woman sexually explicit messages after rejecting her application for role in his office

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woman11017 · 28/10/2017 22:04

Why well......

woman11017 · 28/10/2017 22:08

Well...... Interesting thread here
@J_amesp

Hi again...so, I finished hoovering and fed my kids and was playing with a new toy and found something out about Assange...

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:14

Tim Shipman @ shippersunbound
Former Tory minister told female secretary “come and feel the length of my dick” and formed “shagging double act” with grandee. Sunday Times
Senior cabinet minister grabbed a woman’s thigh and said “god I love those tits”. See Sunday Times
Theresa May gets regular updates on MPs’ sexual indiscretions known as “the ins and outs” briefing. See Sunday Times
Theresa May on bring told about sexual shenanigans of one MP said: “Why can’t they just do the job?” See Sunday Times
Tory whips accused of confusing “good honest fun with other people’s wives” and activities of serial sex pests. See Sunday Times
And none of this is Boris, who has never had to pester anyone so far as I’m aware

Mail On Sunday Cover

Westministenders: The Return of Parliamentary Sleaze?
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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:18

Yeah I know woman.

Watch out for the attacks on Theresa for not managing to keep other people's dicks in their trousers. I can see her being blamed for it including stuff in Cameron's reign.

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:25

Mail on Sunday cover names international trade minister Mark Garnier. (MP for Wyre Forest)

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:28

Oh look, Scotland has its own mess to deal with too.

Cover of the Sunday Herald

Westministenders: The Return of Parliamentary Sleaze?
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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:34

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/28/lib-dems-facing-musical-chairs-battle-retain-seats-house-lords/amp/
Lib Dems facing 'musical chairs' battle to retain seats in House of Lords

Proposals to reduce the size of the House of Lords could leave Liberal Democrat peers competing against each other in a situation akin to "musical chairs", parliamentary sources have said.

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RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 22:37

Tim Shipman @ shippersunbound
The worst thing about the Mark Garnier story is that he stood outside the sex shop while his secretary bought him vibrators. Lazy sod

Er...

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woman11017 · 28/10/2017 22:37

And none of this is Boris I see.....
Garnier is a soft brexiteer?

HashiAsLarry · 28/10/2017 22:43

I feel somewhat like I'm being Mrs-excuse-shitty-behaviour on this thread at the moment without actually trying or meaning to be. But this sexual misbehaviour stuff, it's endemic. It's cross party. We all know it. I'm glad it's coming to light, but I know we're going to watch the front benches being 'forgiven' whilst backbenchers get mauled. It'll be anyone Not on the right wing who gets strung up. Not that they won't deserve it, but it's not going to be a fair approach on all. Certain papers are going to have a field day with this yet all this time they effing knew the arseholes.

Peregrina · 28/10/2017 22:57

Certain papers are going to have a field day with this yet all this time they effing knew the arseholes.

Yes, but the various MPs might find that their electorates are not quite so forgiving.

woman11017 · 28/10/2017 23:01

It's a brexit spring clean of wet tories.

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 23:01

Adam Wagner @ adamwagner1
Major news: Sunday Times reporting that after years of inaction prisoners serving a year or less will get the vote - thread
2. If this is true - and we have had false starts before, it represents a very welcome and long overdue decision by the UK government
3. The issue goes back to 2005, when the European Court of Human Rights Grand Chamber ruled UK must end its total ban on prisoners voting
4. David Cameron famously said it would make him "physically sick" to give prisoners the vote.
5. But the UK agreed to "abide by" judgments of the European Court of Human Rights, so it has an obligation in international law to comply
6. Parliamentary joint committee recommended 4 years ago that UK should let prisoners serving less than 1 year vote
7. If the govt now does its duty under international law and lets some prisoners vote it will be an unlikely but welcome end to the saga
8. It will send a signal to the rest of Europe that the UK hasn't given up on trans-European institutions which promote minimum standards
9. Frankly, it would just be a delight after so many years of populist posturing over the issue for the government to do the right thing

Or it could be an attempt to whip up some more anti-EU / anti-ECHR feeling.

Which are we going with?

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woman11017 · 28/10/2017 23:02

If wet tories exist, anymore.

HashiAsLarry · 28/10/2017 23:05

I hope they don't peregrina, though in my MPs case I'm sure he could shit on your doorstep and people would still vote for him Angry. I'm just pissed off at the entire moral high ground stance now. Because it's cool now right. Sod people you could have stopped being put in the way of these actions years ago when it didn't serve purpose. But we need to regain trust now as the last election proved we're losing power. And it's going to be so convenient who is named.

Sorry, I appear to be a bit angry over this tonight.

woman he's expanding on that tweet, but I can't paste easily on this device, very interesting though.

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 23:14

May the PM who could not sack or get rid of cabinet ministers because that would create havoc and set off political shockwaves, is put in a position where she has to do something about sexual harassment suspects, when she already knew about them and did nothing.

If she doesn't do anything or doesn't go far enough she has a problem. Yet at the same time, much of her base also think these accusations are malicious, a joke or just snowflakes over reacting to a bit of fun. So if she does something she's weak for giving in to the liberals and unproven allegations.

She can be played both ways. Its almost as if she's damned either way.

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HipToBeSquare · 28/10/2017 23:16

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RosemaryHoight · 28/10/2017 23:32

Hi I haven't joined your threads before and I'm a little worried about speaking out of turn on issues that don't affect me. Johnny Foreigner.

If the tabloids give the sexual/ Westminster peadophiles ring names out will they lose their stranglehold on British politics? Could there be more sleaze? Would they give a limited number of names to scare the shit out of the unnamed?

I hope anybody who has committed sexual or child abuse has to answer in court.

lalalonglegs · 28/10/2017 23:34

Err, what did @J_amesp find out about Julian Assange, woman, you're going to have to spell this one out for me (other than he's a conniving shit but not seeing the link with hoovering or his children's toys...).

RedToothBrush · 28/10/2017 23:45

The stephen crabb story is largely a rehash of the story in which he had to withdraw from the leadership campaign. And then resigned as May was looking to demote him. New elements but not that much different to previous scandal.

So he's getting thrown under the bus twice.

Claims emerged that women have had their drinks spiked with date rape drugs in Commons bars.
Part of the Mail article.

Remember Nadine when she said this about Jared O'Mara earlier this week

Nadine Dorries @ nadinedorries
If this sex obsessed MP were a Tory Labour would (rightly) be screaming for a by election He is a stain on Parliament, not Labour Go now

Sun Politics @ sunpolitics
BREAKING: @jeremycorbyn has suspended Labour MP Jared O’Mara as party investigates his vile internet hate

Nadine Dorries @ nadinedorries
Not enough. No investigation can excuse his sex obsessed, demeaning, prejudiced, homo phobic rantings He has to stand down. By election.

She also complained about the evening standard

Nadine Dorries @ nadinedorries
The ES will run this on one page and a sexual harassment story on the next. A confusing world for our young people to grow up in.

Evening Standard @ eveningstandard
Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2017: dates, location and who is (and isn't!) walking [with photo of fuve women in underwear]

Today?

Nadine Dorries @ nadinedorries
Given complete sense of humour fail on Twitter today and the 'let's get him' attitude of people like @bbcnickrobinson I'm off for the w/e!

Will be interesting to see if she does tweet anything about others in her own party and what she says.

Remember Stephen Crabb's seat is one of the most marginal in the country and its also already being targeted by Momentum as a key seat to reclaim...

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