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Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2017 16:26

Theresa May is increasing looking like she is running an episode of the Apprentice with two teams trying to compete in their plan for Brexit. Complete with the obligatory reprehensible contestants.

On one side we have Team Creationists intent on hard Brexit and on the other we have Team Sensibles desperate to get a softer deal.
May herself has been held hostage by seasoned expert negotiators the DUP. Once No 10 has reported the deal was done, only for the DUP to say it wasn’t. Then it said, it would be settled today. But the DUP disagreed and said ‘the weekend’. Now its 'next week'.

Meanwhile the Queen has been messed about with a scapegoat over when her Queen’s Speech will be. It’s likely to be a week on Monday.
Meanwhile the Brexit department is also in chaos.

The Number two in the department was sacked and replaced by a Remainer, and the number three quit amongst reports that he no longer thought Brexit was achievable and that there was no way that the Great Repeal Act could pass through the Lords. He has been replaced by the Head of the infamous Arch-Brexit Whatsapp group.

Oh and Gove got hired. Nuff said on that one.

After some slight back tracking from David Davis, Hard Brexit is still on in all its glory. Negotiations are going ahead next week. Well that’s what we are saying. The EU, on the other hand, don’t won’t to go ahead until we have an officially sworn in government. Which seems pretty fair enough.

Tune in to find out which Team wins this week’ The Brexit Apprentice

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Sostenueto · 14/06/2017 21:23

May could have gone in her state car to visit the people at Grenfell even though it would not have been because she really cares, but it would have raised her profile a bit, cos it really needs it at the mo.

woman12345 · 14/06/2017 21:26

I agree Bigly, olive branches going round labour. Harriet Harman gave a good statement earlier in the week, and there's talk of Chuka and Yvette Cooper getting key roles. The campaigning machine is excellent. No wonder the tories are trying to cling on so desperately.

I agree whatwouldrondo The new Kensington labour MP Emma Dent was on talking about it, and frustrated at the lack of a co ordinated response. Homeless survivors are already scared they won't be re housed in the area, as the site will be flogged to the rich, as well as having been through the most horrific trauma.

Funny use of 'if' in May's comment:
if there are any lessons to be learned.

The Herald of Free Enterprise case was unsuccessful on appeal in establishing corporate manslaughter. I hope the Grenfell Tower fire overturns this.

No mention of the Moslem, Sikh and minority faith and non faith groups who have been volunteering in her speech either.

Peregrina · 14/06/2017 21:28

No May should have kept away, because she would need security protection and quite frankly the police and emergency services have enough to do without looking after her at the scene. But she could have spoken out and expressed sympathy immediately she found out.

whatwouldrondo · 14/06/2017 21:29

Divided Though it all makes it apparent there is a hierarchy of human life....

BestIsWest · 14/06/2017 21:30

Marking place and you're already on page 3!

Peregrina · 14/06/2017 21:31

Though it all makes it apparent there is a hierarchy of human life....

Indeed - the just about managing. What about the not managing? Presumably they don't count.

And yet still people vote for the Tories.

whatwouldrondo · 14/06/2017 21:38

woman exactly, what stands out is that the whole community responded whatever the religion or socio economic profile. It even included the trophy wives from the local primary schools

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RedToothBrush · 14/06/2017 21:42

Andrew @ FDSaussure
@davidallengreen is there a time limit on how long TM can faff around delaying the Queen's Speech?

Ian Sharp @ its_iansharp
Good question. Also, seems May informed Queen she could form a govt before she knew she could form a govt.

David Allen Green @ davidallengreen
A good point. May's rush to the Palace presupposed she could carry a majority in the Commons.

We are way ahead, but looks like others are starting to notice and ask questions...

No one has an answer or worked out the implication either though

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BlessedBeTheFruit · 14/06/2017 21:47

Exactly, even Jeremy Clarkson gave the (clean) contents of his wardrobe I think and was encouraging others to donate FFS!

Sostenueto · 14/06/2017 21:48

Yes I agree with what you say peregrina and I didn't think about security for May. Maybe because I don't class her as PM.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 21:49

It seems a common strategy when the right wing in the US and UK don't get as many votes as they wanted that they claim fraudulent voting by their opponents.
Voting fraud is very very rare.

What is much more common - and effective - is rightwing gerrymandering of constituencies and also choosing dates to suppress the votes of the young and the poor.
And bringing in measures - supposedly against voter fraud - like photo ID which people in these groups are less likely to have.

Mrsmartell08 · 14/06/2017 21:50

#notmyPM

woman12345 · 14/06/2017 21:50

No one has an answer or worked out the implication either though
I think we've got that one covered too.Grin Shock

BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 21:54

I suspect the survivors wouldn't have welcomed a visit from any representative of a govt which blocked new fire safety regs. Or the disruption and use of police resources.

She is abroad atm, but she should still have found time to make a proper statement much earlier
She certainly would have if the deaths had been from a terrorist attack

Peregrina · 14/06/2017 22:02

Ian Sharp @ its_iansharp
Good question. Also, seems May informed Queen she could form a govt before she knew she could form a govt.

We don't know what was said when she was with the Queen. She might have said that she would try to form a Government which she is entitled to do, even a minority one.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 22:04

Guardian Live:
AngryAngry
"The absence of the council on the street as hundreds of families were homeless was concerning, said Judith Bakeman, a Labour councillor at Kensington and Chelsea.
“There’s been so many cuts, there aren’t enough people to deal with this.”

Referring to Notting Hill Methodist church’s Rev Mike Long, she said:
“Mike has been running this centre giving people food and water all day and not a single person from the council has been here.”

As we spoke, a volunteer from the Harrow Club and Latimer AP Academy came to tell the councillor she had 138 beds available.
He said that no one official had been to the centre and he didn’t know what to do with that information.

Peregrina · 14/06/2017 22:05

She is abroad atm, but she should still have found time to make a proper statement much earlier

She was perfectly capable a few months back of offering an opinion on the National Trust's Easter Egg hunt, despite being abroad somewhere.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 22:08

Constitutionally, only a new PM needs to visit HM
Anything else is just a courtesy call / for publicity purposes
So May could have just dropped by and admired the corgis for all we know

LotisBlue · 14/06/2017 22:08

What is much more common - and effective - is rightwing gerrymandering of constituencies and also choosing dates to suppress the votes of the young and the poor. And bringing in measures - supposedly against voter fraud - like photo ID which people in these groups are less likely to have
And don't forget the other big one, controlling the media

QuentinSummers · 14/06/2017 22:11

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 22:11

We can admire them too.
< Hat tip to HM >

Westminstenders: The Brexit Apprentice
HashiAsLarry · 14/06/2017 22:13

I hope Jc feels like sharing the magic money tree with the Tories, this is all beginning to sound costly for them.

ClashCityRocker · 14/06/2017 22:15

Everything is feeling rather tense atm.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/06/2017 22:17

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/14/disaster-waiting-to-happen-fire-expert-slams-uk-tower-blocks

“A disaster waiting to happen,” is how the architect and fire expert Sam Webb describes hundreds of tower blocks across the UK, after the fire at Grenfell Tower in Kensington that has left at least six people dead. < 12 dead now >
“We are still wrapping postwar high-rise buildings in highly flammable materials and leaving them without sprinkler systems installed, then being surprised when they burn down.”

Webb surveyed hundreds of residential tower blocks across the country in the early 1990s and presented a damning report to the Home Office, which revealed that more than half of the buildings didn’t meet basic fire safety standards.
He said: “We discovered a widespread breach of safety, but we were simply told nothing could be done because it would ‘make too many people homeless’. Hmm < or the properties could be made safe. But of course, no money >
“I really don’t think the building industry understands how fire behaves in buildings and how dangerous it can be.
The government’s mania for deregulation means our current safety standards just aren’t good enough.”

Gumpendorf · 14/06/2017 22:21

That's terrifying BigChoc