Westministenders: Before the Fire Alarm of Rome goes off

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I’m going to keep this one very simple.

THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER TO VOTE IS 22ND MAY.
www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

Postal votes start to go out on 23rd May.

Your challenge is to persuade someone to register to vote or to get someone who is considering not to, to get their arse to the polling station.

Go forth and harass. Especially women and the young.

That’s it. No frills OP.

I would imagine that many of the wealthy in London are concerned that if a hard Brexit occurs they will either no longer be wealthy or no longer be in London. It may be that compared to the consequences of a hard Brexit for those in the financial and tech sectors paying a bit more tax doesnt seem so terrible after all.

BiglyBadgers

He can be fair and reasonable as he likes. But his unequivocal statement ("Asked if he would use nuclear weapons, he said: “No.”) is indistinguishable from unilateral nuclear disarmament. The same thing that did Labour in in 1983. That's electoral poison to the ordinary voter, and I'm sure the Tory campaign will go in very hard on the issue.

woman the London financial hub is only part of the story. A large proportion of the London population are not high earners (FSM stats are shocking and HB per head for London is twice the level for Scotland). The wealthy banker areas of eg Kensington and Chelsea will vote Tory whatever and the JC and DA etc voters are similarly loyal. A bit of a stretch to take the views of the middle managers and public sector / academics of LibDemish seats discussed above as a reflection of the Wallet of the whole country.

BiglyBadgers

I would imagine that many of the wealthy in London are concerned that if a hard Brexit occurs they will either no longer be wealthy or no longer be in London.

It may be that compared to the consequences of a hard Brexit for those in the financial and tech sectors paying a bit more tax doesnt seem so terrible after all.

Sure, some of the financial / tech rich may calculate that a hard Brexit is worse for them on balance. But Corbyn's bonkers taxes will hit the incomes and property of ALL the well-off in London, so no way are they voting for him.

Look at this just today - Corbyn has no clue on defence:

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@jeremycorbyn refuses to say if he would send troops to support a NATO ally under threat

A case by case basis sounds more sensible than a blank cheque
Far too much mindless sabre-rattling and patriotic sound bites over the last few months

What if 2 NATO allies- Greece & Turkey - go to war ?
What if Turkey - now a dictatorship - attacks a non-member country and comes off worse ?

Most importantly, the US demanded help from its NATO allies in the Middle East and Afghanistan - what a disaster that the Uk joined in.
The French, Bermans etc refused to support their NATO allies in Iraq, because they realised the WMDs were an excuse for Wars For Oil

So, saying he'll think before going to war .... sounds amazingly sensible and rational.

Mrs S The London economy is far more complex than just financial services / tech / academia. The creative industries are the big third but there are all sorts of niche businesses plus company HQs for just about every industrial sector as well. They are in London because it is a global city. There is a huge secondary economy in hospitality etc that relies on those activities. Most Londoners really do understand that a hard Brexit will be a disaster for the city which is why the remain vote is so high. It is also a city where the positive value of immigration is well understood. Reducing it to under 100k is going to hit London very hard indeed at every level of the economy. .

French, Germans < wipes choc crumbs off ipad >

I am surprised by just how many people watched Sadiq Khans session with the select committee and were appalled by the way in which it was received by Gove and the other indistinguishable pump up pompous Tories. I assume because they do feel so concerned, Sadiq Khan's popularity keeps rising because he is representing the concerns of business and ordinary Londoners.

iirc, The City of London financial centre produces 10-12 % of UK GDP and about the same % of UK tax revenue.

It is very worrying to be so dependent on this sector, but an abrupt downturn - if the Uk loses financial passporting - would damage the whole economy.
One key part of a Brexit transition arrangement will be to enable the City to phase out passporting more gradually.

red I'll give you Kingston Upon Thames and Sutton and Cheam to add to Twickenham but after that I agree with Summerisle - we are talking about Tories here after all.

Its Tories that will NEVER vote Labour that switch to LD who will damage the Conservative vote. That's what the whole Corbyn thing is about. Its not about the LDs unexpectedly winning seats they'd never have a chance in, its more about reducing the vote share.

As I said previously, the betting odds of the LDs in the seat of Westminster went from 500 - 1 to 16 - 1. That's a big deal if its reflected in the voting EVEN IF the Tories still retain the seat.

The few thousand super rich fat cats in the financial sector will get a generous relocation package to Frankurt, Dublin, Paris
The tens of thousands of workers on very good but not astronomic salaries would not

I'm gonna harp back a bit so sorry for reviving possibly dead convos.

RE: BBC, I agree with rtb. I don't think its intentional bias, I think its intentional trying not to be biased going completely awry. Also UKIP did get a decent share of votes in the last GE and are on OFCOMs larger party list so I would expect to see a lot of them on the BBC especially, and more than of parties that aren't considered larger by OFCOM. So if trying to be intentionally unbiased it makes sense that there's a slight extra leaning toward the opposite direction. Hopefully after June we won't have to see much of them.

The LD are considered LEFT of centre despite the coalition government (is the 'coalition of chaos' thing cutting through?)
I wonder if that has a lot to do with the if you're not pro Brexit you're a lefty attitude. Lib Dems not being pro brexit therefore must be left.

The Liberal Democrats Will Pledge To Completely Legalise Cannabis not sure how I feel on that one, largely because I didn't expect that at all.

pretty clearly I've dipped too far into middle classness. I thought it was polenta But the finished product looked gorgeous.

As I said, the Conservatives are WORRIED about London. In a big way.
David Lammy has already written about the possibility of London becoming a City State.

whatwouldrondo, don't get me wrong, I'm concerned about the London economy too, although I'm in the fortunate position that Brexit should have no major effect on my own business. I voted Remain, and am now resigned to the fact that Brexit will be more of less a clusterfuck. But for me, this election is about what comes after Brexit, and no way do I want that to be Corbo-communism.

Hashi So has Sadiq, although not necessarily in all seriousness......

He can be fair and reasonable as he likes. But his unequivocal statement ("Asked if he would use nuclear weapons, he said: “No.”) is indistinguishable from unilateral nuclear disarmament. The same thing that did Labour in in 1983.

Funnily enough, in 1983 (I couldn't vote) I was opposed to CND.

I wouldn't go as far as to say I have done an volte-face, but can't see the point of spending money on Trident. I don't see the UK needs nuclear weapons now.

He can be fair and reasonable as he likes. But his unequivocal statement ("Asked if he would use nuclear weapons, he said: “No.”) is indistinguishable from unilateral nuclear disarmament. The same thing that did Labour in in 1983. That's electoral poison to the ordinary voter, and I'm sure the Tory campaign will go in very hard on the issue.

Oh here we go with the Trumpesque rhetoric. What is an 'ordinary voter', summerisle? Are they like the 'ordinary working people' that May and her cronies constantly bang on about, or some other sort of demographic?

Another thing that scares the tories about London, is the strength and organisation of the RMT, RMT and ASLEF who have held strikes over the last year. Tories have plans to ban strikes, a la Erogan and South Korea tried to in the 1990s.

London commuters are absolutely fleeced by the train companies. Comparisons with EU capitals' transport costs for workers are invidious.

London reveals in microcosm what tories have been doing to the country for years, their non tory votes are going to send a very strong message to May.

I am surprised by just how many people watched Sadiq Khans session with the select committee and were appalled by the way in which it was received by Gove and the other indistinguishable pump up pompous Tories

And that.^

Doesn't play well with a lot of Londoners.

Corbo-communism

Oh, there's another one! Presumably 'Corbo-communism' is part of the coalition of chaos, which is the antithesis of 'strong and stable'...

Who needs a manifesto when you can have soundbites?

Corbo-communism or Harold Wilson's government's policies.

twofingerstoEverything, woman12345, feel free to take the piss as much as you like, it doesn't bother me.

What is an 'ordinary voter', summerisle?

The same one that'll crush Corbyn on June 8. If I'm wrong, you can make fun of me again on the night. But I won't be wrong.

ron didn't know Sadiq had too. Interesting. He could be president

corbo-communism is that the opposite of may-fascism? They do meet in the horseshoe spectrum a lot after all.

feel free to take the piss as much as you like, it doesn't bother me
Where did I take the piss? Wilson won 3 terms on manifestos more left wing than "Corbo-communism".
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corbo-communism is that the opposite of may-fascism?

Pretty much - I'm rather pleased with it.

Not sure I'd be pleased to be promoting fascism, but each to their own.