Westministenders: Before the Fire Alarm of Rome goes off

[RedToothBrush]

I’m going to keep this one very simple.

THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER TO VOTE IS 22ND MAY.
www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

Postal votes start to go out on 23rd May.

Your challenge is to persuade someone to register to vote or to get someone who is considering not to, to get their arse to the polling station.

Go forth and harass. Especially women and the young.

That’s it. No frills OP.

One law for Trump, one for reporters .. !

Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider
putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

And serious legal danger for Trump:

"... part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation.

An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations."

"The documentation of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Late Tuesday, Representative Jason Chaffetz, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight Committee, demanded that the F.B.I. turn over all “memoranda, notes, summaries and recordings” of discussions between Mr. Trump and Mr. Comey.

Such documents, Mr. Chaffetz wrote, would “raise questions as to whether the president attempted to influence or impede” the F.B.I."

The education system has been subverted to benefit the Universities rather than the students.

Except it increasingly doesn't benefit the universities. A lot of courses cost far more than the student fees cover. Particularly science and medicine, or other courses that require lab or a lot of supervisor time. This shortfall was covered by Government subsidies, but as someone else pointed out this funding is getting cut and cut. A lot of unis are being forced to cut the high cost courses as they just can't afford to deliver them anymore. They are also cutting some of the less mainstream courses, particularly at postgrad level which has an impact on research and development.

At the same time the fact that students see them selves as having paid for their courses and therefore customers means they are making more and more demands over what is offered and what is taught. As well as increasing involvement from parents furious at paying a fortune and finding that their child is going to fail. The student Survey that collects feedback from students and ranks courses accordingly has become life or death for a university course. This reflects the view that a university is there to provide a product for a student rather than the student being their to access as education from experienced experts in their field. This may seem a subtle difference, but in my view has a real impact on the quality of the education that is delivered.

Kaija It's like in Scotland, where voting now seems largely along Nationalist / Unionist lines.
I think this GE will be like that for Brexit - Nationalist / non-Nat

Probably the following GE after Brexit actually happens will be the reaction to it - pleased / angry, once the full effect on the economy and on immigration (if any) have been experienced.

Lets just bookmark this for that moment in 5 years time when people who voted on the basis of Brexit-only start claiming they didn't vote for the destruction of the NHS or the education system.

I am looking forward to seeing what happens to certain posters. This will be when Treeza May lets them down with her version of Brexit. I wonder whether, when they get made redundant, or care for elderly relatives means just giving up their jobs, and the NHS as we know it has disappeared, they will say, 'ah but it was worth it'. I suspect they will fall silent.

Apparently Mr Wetherspoon himself has now decided that he would like EU nationals to stay. I wonder why? What has made him change his mind? Personally, if his chain goes bankrupt I won't shed too many tears, although I would shed tears for staff laid off. Unless they voted Leave, of course, and then I would expect them to embrace the opportunities available to them. It will be what they voted for.

Remember all those threads back when I said if people were presented with an actual choice between brexit and the NHS, I'm sure the NHS would win hands down. Apparently not anymore

John Oliver on Trump, but TBF applies very well to May:
When you've got the presidential equivalent of a 5-year-old shitting on the salad bar of a Ruby Tuesday, at some point you stop blaming the 5-year-old and you start blaming the people who are not stopping him
Stop that boy! That's what I'm saying
Stop that boy now!

electoralforecast.com

(Chris Hanretty) has its latest prediction up. Its very different to Ashcroft's.

On the seat by seat he has a notable casualty. West Morland and Longsdale

LurkingHusband may I ask what you meant by Same way the justice system has been subverted to benefit the legal profession?

Macron cabinet: Women are half of France's new minsters
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39948523

Tories have 29% women candidates.

RedToothBrush I am absolutely livid at this:

Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if Theresa May fails to deliver Brexit in the fashion he wants

Not a year has passed since he incited what he did, and he's threatening more violence, and giving succour to his and who else's (?)thugs.

Armed fools are the reason no one wants to touch Trump, no matter what.

Weimar had plenty of characters like him.

I have to say I find it incredibly hard to understand how someone who would normally support the Liberal Democrats would be comfortable voting for the current UKIP-infused incarnation of the Tories.

Because Brexit.

The Lib Dems do not represent me - they are diametrically opposed to my wish to leave the EU.

I understand why they have done it, but they've essentially become the Remain party and I don't want to vote for that.

OK, so Brexit trumps everything else for you.
Fair enough.

If Scotland becomes independent, probably most of the SNP voters would then move away to various other parties, along the full spectrum of left to right.
Currently, they vote SNP because their wish for independence, Devo-Max or anything but English Tory rule trumps their desire for left or right policies.

This is good. But it's written by Oxford professor so what would she know?

'No, There Are Not 23% Re-Leavers'

politicsmeanspolitics.com/no-there-are-not-22-re-leavers-d40c0c78833e

Quite, Swedish. I probably would have answered b) in that poll, but I noticed there was no option that amounts to 'I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with with it'.

I know that makes me unfashionable round these parts.

Also missing is, "I don't like it but there seems to be no end to this national self-sabotage. So much so, I assume in another referendum, Leave would still win because the spoilt billionaires intent on subverting democracy haven't gone away"

spoilt billionaires intent on subverting democracy haven't gone away"
or stopped inciting violence.

I don't believe fit in any of those groups.
I fit more in a 'the advisory referendum said leave so the government should be looking at why it came out leave and looking to deal with those issues, even if it ends with leaving the EU but not in a dive off a cliff way'
I admit its not snappy!

That would do nicely Hashi if all the conflicts of interests of members of the government and their partners, and 'associates' are on the table. Who has presented any figures on exactly who has spent what on Leave? Which companies and which individuals gets the cash through this chaotic bonfire of civil rights and international trade and law?

This was all solvable in a civilised, intelligent and humane way, even withdrawing from the EU, completely. It has been played poisonously like this for a reason.

June 9th is a big payday for a secret few.

The Farage gun stuff echoes what the Trump rump are saying about threats to impeach him. They are armed and brainless, but dangerous too, and have every intention of taking down democracy.

My friends were 'attacked' by a group of men. To survive, one of my friends said, I'll take this one, he's good looking.

Survival mode is often acquiescence.

That's what this is; we've been constitutionally 'attacked' and you know what that makes May, who has always valued power above morality.

I don't actually think Farage would don khaki and pick up a gun. Or if he did those things, he most definitely wouldn't head for any front lines. He wouldn't risk his own skin. He would stay as far in the rear as possible.

Recollect that he was going to get thousands on the street just before Christmas. He didn't manage it, he managed a couple of hundred at best. By contrast, despite attempts to put us off, we Remainers did get 100,000 on the streets in March.

I agree Peregrina: he wouldn't actually put himself in the line of fire danger.

Like most bullies, he's actually a coward. But happy to let others do his dirty work.

Whenever I hear of Farage and guns I always come back to 'we won this without a shot being fired' and sit and rock saying her name was Jo Cox, her name was Jo Cox

Does this give you a nice warm feeling to be hosting Trident, Pretty ?

Monday -Trident nuke convoy* br*oke down on M40

http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/15288510.Nuclearrweaponsconvoybreakssdownonn_M40/

The military convoy, understood to include four nuclear warhead carriers, was travelling on the M40 north slip road at Junction 9, Bicester, when one of the vehicles broke down yesterday morning.

"Nukewatch claim the convoy left the warhead assembly plant at Burghfield yesterday morning and said it was likely to be heading for Coulport on Loch Long where the warheads are stored and loaded onto the Trident submarines.
The trucks, according to the group, are used to carry complete Trident warheads which are unarmed but contain high explosive and plutonium.

According to the MoD the high explosive has an impact range of 600 metres and
the radiological plume would extend to at least 5 kilometres."

"there have been 180 incidents involving the convoys in the period 2000 to 2016.
"The UK's Ministry of Defence is allowed to carry explosive and radioactive materials in the same transport – a procedure rationally outlawed for civil transport.

I hadn't realised there were so many nuke convoys among ordinary civilian traffic and so near towns

BigChoc - by all accounts they regularly drive the centre of Glasgow

I live less than a mile from the motorway

Next IPSOS poll may be a shock

< Ben Page is their chief exec >

Ben Page, Ipsos MORI @benatipsosmori
Looking at interims on our next #ge2017 poll omfg :)

From his following answers, doesn't sound like the shock is LDs or LAB shooting up.
Maybe UCON shooting over 50% ?
We'll see soon < drums fingers >

https://mobile.twitter.com/KushMovement/status/864920904316235777