I am European

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Its 1:20pm in Brussels.

I AM EUROPEAN.

I am Scottish and European. It's a sad day. In around 6 years time I hope to also be an Australian citizen. It's important to me that my children have options.

I used to be British. I'm now a Scottish European.

I'm Australian, but I feel very European, and it's the feelz that count, isn't it?

I don't know what I am.

Every nationality I identified with is now either taken away from me or has disappointed me to the extent that I no longer want to identify with it.

I am English and Welsh, but I don't belong to either. I was European, but that's being taken away. I don't want to be British, not if this is what it represents.

Fuck.

Of course you're bloody European - you were European yesterday, are European today and will be European tomorrow! The UK is on the continent of Europe - in case you didn't realise, Brexit will not result in the island being hauled off to the middle of the Atlantic you know

Can we have a new version of Mansplaining, "Leavesplaining"? When the all-powerful Leaver steps in to share their great knowledge with us small-minded mortals?

Rorty

I'm European too, due to the geography not the politics, and I'm deliriously happy that the UK's out of the EU

Rorty it may have escaped your attention, but quite a few Brexiters have been extolling the virtues of their Britishness today.

I think this thread is a counterpoint to that, rather than a discussion for people with an inability to grasp basic geographical concepts.

I am Norwegian (live in Hampshire), and most definitely European, despite never having been in the EU.

I'm British and proud to be. I didn't realise that Brexit means they are pushing our coastline a few hundred miles West so that we are no longer part of the European continent though. You learn something new every day.

I didn't vote leave but I agree with Rorty.

We are leaving a union not a continent.

Piglet what about the loss of a European passport - is that not a critical element of the concept of being a European citizen?

In the same vein, Rorty: if when Scotland gains its independence , I'll still be British, as in we will still be sharing the island of Great Britain you do know that the "Great" just means "Big" in this context don't you? with FUKD or Little England or whatever it wants to call itself

Rorty we may still be European geographically speaking, but it is likely that we won't have the same freedom of movement throughout the continent and our children won't have the same access to educational opportunities that we have enjoyed in the past forty years.

I am old enough to remember travelling to France in the 1970s when one was only allowed to take a certain amount of foreign currency abroad. Imho all the benefits that freedom of movement has brought us, have been very much taken for granted by those who voted leave.

I'm British. I'm also European, but in the non-EU sense

I am old enough to remember travelling to France in the 1970s when one was only allowed to take a certain amount of foreign currency abroad.

Which had nothing to do with the EU.

I'm old enough to remember when it was possible to travel to France without a passport, just a document one could get from a Post Office called a British Visitors' Passport.

You'd think that there was some kind of Iron Curtain between us and Europe, prior to freedom of movement, and no one could go anywhere, the way some people talk.

But do you know, children and students were able to go on exchange visits, language students did their year abroad, people were able to get summer jobs on the continent, some of us even travelled behind the actual Iron Curtain. That's all within my experience and that of family and friends.

I'm old enough to remember working in France as part of my French degree (as an assistante) for a year, having to register at the mairie and not being allowed to open a proper chequing bank account for my salary as I wasn't French

The dh of one of the teachers at my school worked at a bank and was able to pull of a few strings.

This was in the relatively early days of the EEC and the UK's membership of it, before Single Market/ FoM was formalised.

ovaries Leavesplaining

ovaries - you win MN 👑 for "leavesplaining". Perfect.

Ovaries excellent idea! Meanwhile I am European as well as British. I had a German born mother and an English father.

I've never identified as European. Always as British. Never identified as just English similarly. The only thing I identify is that the UK geographically is part of the continent of Europe - that which we can't change. However all else is fluid.

Quite frankly I feel sorry for British people who can't bring themselves for whatever reason to really back Britain. I will never understand it.

The people that are also ashamed to be British, not just because of Brexit, but because of possible political issues in the past. Why do you continue to live in country you abhor?

Why do you continue to live in country you abhor?

Because we have the right to change it ?

Of course you're bloody European - you were European yesterday, are European today and will be European tomorrow! The UK is on the continent of Europe - in case you didn't realise, Brexit will not result in the island being hauled off to the middle of the Atlantic you know

This

I'm European, but I still voted leave.
Am I NOT European any more then?? Of course I am!