New EU immigration regulations may lead to deportations

[Mistigri]

Article on new HO regulations concerning the rights of EU citizens in the UK:

www.freemovement.org.uk/briefing-legal-status-eu-citizens-uk/

On the face of it, these new rules would appear to give the HO the right to deport any EU citizen without permanent residency rights, who is not currently exercising treaty rights and who does not have private health insurance. This will include many EU spouses of UK citizens who are not currently working and cannot document a 5 year period during which they exercised treaty rights - regardless of the amount of time they have spent in the UK.

This gives a whole new slant to those HO letters suggesting that EU citizens make plans to leave. Might be time for affected EU citizens to consider legal advice :-/

(Weird and hostile way of opening negotiations with the EU27 over migrants' rights - I am coming to the conclusion that May may actually want the negotiations to fail).

It could be dual citizens or non brit.
But does it matter? Immigration can turning up and just taking people away sounds scary tbh yes i know there is probably a reason behind it. Or is the reason qute weak like with the students??

I'd love to hear more about those stories. They really do need to come out.

RedAndYellowPeppers I agree, it's been happening quietly with no opposition. Silence and collusion and all that.

DS just told me this week that in our little country town, an immigration van pulled up outside our Chinese takeaway and took away citizens.

I had no idea, it wasn't reported, just ignored, hopefully now the publicity round these cases will help.

In US, there is great local activism round ICE sweeps and people actually stand and protest against awful deportations, hope action spreads here.

Who in their right mind is going to protest against the deportation of illegal immigrants?

No said they were illegal immigrants??
The whole point is that it's not reported so we don't know.

No said they were illegal immigrants??
The whole point is that it's not reported so we don't know.

So there's a conspiracy to bundle legal citizens / residents into the back of a van outside a Chinese takeaway and whisk them away to be disappeared without trace? Doesn't seem all that likely, does it?

Just as likely that a van came to bundle students who were legally here because TM thought that a test they had passed wasn't good enough. Even though that test was actually shown to be good enough. And that those students weren't faking studying here.

I hate conspiracy theories. But there are enough precedents for me to want to know more about the WHYS.
And it might be that it's totally ok. Or ot might be that it's not.

^No said they were illegal immigrants??
The whole point is that it's not reported so we don't know^

It wasn't reported, just seen.

However this is some of the actions happening in the US against immigrant detentions:

www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/protests-detention-immigrants-170210200140962.html

www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2017/02/08/could-woman-first-arizonan-deported-because-trump-orders/97637928/

www.dailydot.com/layer8/ice-raids-new-york-los-angeles-protests/

And the organisation in the UK:

www.no-deportations.org.uk

closecampsfield.wordpress.com

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/10/activists-demand-closure-yarls-wood-surround-centre-wall-noise

No said they were illegal immigrants??

I don't think it's worth engaging Red, having seen the farcical "discussion" about Britain's "honourable" colonial history on the other thread.

What the one scotland denies all knowledge of partaking in despite the fact that half of the slave masters in Jamaica were scottish.

Actually some of the deportations I was aware of were illegal - people who were awaiting decisions on residence, waiting to hear the result of appeals etc got forced out of their homes and into a plane. I cannot give more details without outing myself. My experience in that job was that the Home Office tends to target the sick, elderly, vulnerable, mentally ill or barely literate ie the ones that wouldn't put up a fight (physical and legal fight).

Ohtoblazes that is terrible

My experience in that job was that the Home Office tends to target the sick, elderly, vulnerable, mentally ill or barely literate ie the ones that wouldn't put up a fight (physical and legal fight)
Thanks for posting that, it's what I'd suspected. OhtoblazeswithElvira
May's HO is truly abhorrent and shameful, but it's happening in our own country. We need to know and act on this.

Nobody cares because it happens to forriners who are all evil anyway

In th US they are forming flash demonstrations when ICE go in. US is appalled at even having detention centres, they have memories of the Japanese internment in the war and are ashamed.

The Yarls Wood protest was good, but maybe the march on March 18th Stand up to Racism might galvanise more opposition. But I agree, the racism is rancid in Britain right now.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/08/uk-budget-deportation-jamaica

Just today an article confirming EXACTELY what Elvira has been mentioning.
People sent back 'home' when they are still appealing, families split, planes booked in advance and the pressure to fill them....
This is appalling in a democracy.
This is not much better than what DT is doing and we are all allegedly horrified by his politic on immigration.
So yes when are we go g to start talking about that, about human rights etc etc?

To revisit a subject discussed earlier on this thread about British citizens being stripped of the UK nationality, this article from today's Guardian makes it clear what kind of people the policy involves. And the European Court is actually SUPPORTIVE of this policy:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/09/terror-suspects-british-citizenship-european-ruling

^We want more Syrian refugees: council offers exceed official UK pledge of 20,000
Local authorities have offered almost 22,000 places, with councils increasing pledges after being overwhelmed by public support^

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/09/we-want-more-syrian-refugees-offers-exceed-official-uk-pledge-of-20000

This doesn't make sense. How can councils claim they are unable to provide adequate social care or homes for the homeless and are having to cut their budgets to the bone. Yet they can find the homes and money for more and more refugees?

Because in the case of Social Care it takes expensive specialist skills and facilities for a growing population who are living longer and with more complex needs, whereas refugees need hospitality from those who have empathy for what they have been through and their need for support and help to help them integrate and begin contributing to the community, as previous waves of refugees did like the Ugandan Asians and Sri Lankan Tamils. If you read the article LAs have been overwhelmed with offers from their communities and charities. It is certainly the case in this borough.

This doesn't make sense. How can councils claim they are unable to provide adequate social care or homes for the homeless and are having to cut their budgets to the bone. Yet they can find the homes and money for more and more refugees?

You could try clicking on the link and reading the article ; this often proves enlightening :)

A lot of the housing being offered is owned or funded by charities, churches, voluntary organisations or individuals. In addition it's clear from the map that many of the areas concerned are in parts of the UK where there is no housing shortage (and indeed there may even be a surplus of larger homes that single people or small families don't want to occupy due to the bedroom tax).

Hampshire county council said most of the offers of housing in the area had come through church groups , with four properties owned by churches pledged as homes for refugees and many more coming from offers from members of church congregations .

It's in the article, anon:
'The FOIs also reveal how integral charities and faith groups have been in securing housing for the project, with roughly 30 local authorities saying housing was obtained partly or primarily through charities and faith groups making property available.'

Xpost, sorry

You could try clicking on the link and reading the article ; this often proves enlightening

Enlightening my arse; Don't tell me there is anyone is short of somewhere to live in the UK and you are housing people who have deserted their Country, on no other basis other than there is free life to be had.

It proves it in a nutshell when no-one fleeing oppression chooses China,Mongolia or the USSR as their final destination? That disputes the argument from everyone who is pro immigration.

Back in the 80's a child who had fled the Angolan civil war came into my class. He had been a child soldier and had fought and died alongside his family and was quite frankly regarded a hero.

You could give some credibility if at least some had a CV to match the above.

you are housing people who have deserted their Country, on no other basis other than there is free life to be had

Going to quote this without comment and wait for other leavers to tell us what they think about it.

you are housing people who have deserted their Country, on no other basis other than there is free life to be had

Going to quote this without comment and wait for other leavers to tell us what they think about it.

And let them comment maybe you will find one or two who publicly give a damn but most will hold their peace, same

The so called housing charities you speak of; whose funding comes from where thin air? Or is it Back street local government money, and the good old taxpayer.

This whole country is soon going to sink under the weight of the world's burden.