The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.

[RedToothBrush]

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD EIGHT!

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Each of the parties seem to have a taken a very different style to their leadership contests.

The Tory party have been well documented as doing in the classic style of Hamlet. After the entire Conservative Party have spent two weeks stabbing each in the back and front, May steps forward to take the crown for herself.

But what about the others?

The UKIP leadership contest seems to be in comedy style of Peter Kay’s Phoenix Nights. In a strange turn of events, that no one predicted and seem quite absurd, they seem to be changing their rules so their new leader must have been a member for 5 years. The punchline is this rules just about everyone out, apart from Neil Hamilton and Steven Woolfe. As BigChocFrenzy points out, we are expecting Arron Banks to hand out the brown envelopes. We are just waiting for the poorly thought out, and badly booked racist band to turn up and make everyone cringe in horror and distract everyone from UKIP's candidates and their manifestos in the process.

Meanwhile Labour Party decide to do what they thought was Star Wars Panto. After spending a week going “She’s Standing”, “Oh No She’s Not” Angela Eagle is declared the Empire Strikes Back candidate by Diane Abbot. Well if she’s the rebel leader, then who is Darth Vader and the Emperor?

Unfortunately, you’d be forgiven for thinking the performance is starting to look more and more like a re-enactment of One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, by the minute:

A battle of wills between two forces locked together in a room with ultimately different and opposing self-interests. This is only resolved when the new leader to the dynamic who sought to upset the institution, and give the others their freedom, is lobotomised and subsequently killed in an act of mercy. His murderer manages to escape the prison to the cheers of those still stuck inside.

The Greens of course are a foreign language film, no one has heard of and no one is really that interested in watching.

The Lib Dems are merely sat in the audience. With Tim Farron heckling.

But where is Gandalf?

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At least some sanity has returned and we now have some leaders. May can now get stuck into the job of handing the nightmare that is Brexit whilst making herself at home at Number 10. Rumours are circulating that it’s been left a bit of a pigsty.

We will follow May, on her new adventures to foreign lands to persuade Merkel and Juncker to hand over a mythical unicorn to the UK. Meanwhile will we continue our own hunt for the opposition, whilst we all consult our dictionaries for the meaning of the word ‘Brexit’ in bafflement in the wake of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.

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Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2682358-The-Westministenders-Media-Baron-Hunger-Games-continues-Is-it-about-to-all-implode?pg=1 Previous thread 7

[Unicornsarelovely]

Keir Starmer is also pretty tough and has had a dose of press interest from his work as a Q.C so he's got a good starting point...

[RedToothBrush]

Tbh I don't think the debate will change anything.

The point is more that it is politically very difficult for a50 to be invoked before that debate now. It means any talk of '2 weeks' is definitely out of the question.

[derxa]

So...where are they? Genuinely.
This is an analysis of what happened in Scotland.
www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/ron-mckay-how-labour-died-11297371
The SNP displayed a passion in their beliefs and the Scottish people bought it. There isn't anyone in the Labour party who displays any passion in their beliefs. People are sick of empty soundbites.

[RedToothBrush]

Mrs Lupo, I don't think it should be read as brexit not bein brexit still.

I do think it is a chance to raise very real problems with the legitimacy of the referendum and how it was word, run, constructed etc.

Opposition leader NOW!

[TooExtraImmatureCheddar]

Really liking these threads!

Is anyone else feeling a bit catsbum-faced at Theresa May saying she will do away with positive discrimination? Because we have obviously achieved equality in all fields and need to make sure the rights of white middle-class men are upheld, the poor hard-done-by dears.

[SwedishEdith]

Keir Starmer for me as well but I vaguely remember he Did Something which wasn't well-received when DPP. Can't remember what.

Have been following Starmer and Jarvis since last leadership election.

Shami Chakrabarti was sitting behind Corbyn at Select Committee hearing the other day - why?

[Showmethewaytogohome]

Oh MrsLupo you have hit on my Achilles heel. I love/stalk admire Keir and might become guilty of the very things I accuse others of if he became leader

Working class hero for me

[SwedishEdith]

Is anyone else feeling a bit catsbum-faced at Theresa May saying she will do away with positive discrimination

Didn't hear that but it's not legal anyway so she might (might!) be saying that to appease the golf club brigade knowing it's meaningless?

[RedToothBrush]

Cheery thought from Phillip Hammond:
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/12/brexit-could-take-up-to-six-years-to-complete-says-philip-hammond?CMP=twt_gu

Brexit could take SIX YEARS

[MrsLupo]

Mrs Lupo, I don't think it should be read as brexit not bein brexit still.

I don't necessarily think so either. But I think it's a very carefully worded statement. They could easily have reiterated that there is no question of there being a second referendum and that the debate will centre purely on procedural matters and lessons for the future. I think it's VERY significant that the door has been left even a little bit ajar. Anyone who would be keen to see that ought to get writing to their MP now, particularly if they are in government, and particularly if they voted to remain.

[Chalalala]

Not only 6 years, 6 years during which the UK will be hamstrung commercially

The complexity of the UK’s efforts to disentangle itself from the European Union has been made clear by the foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, who said the process might take as long as six years to complete and the possibility of signing bilateral trade deals in the interim may be limited.

[Playduh]

Nervously jumping into the thread as Red asked for more right wing sources.

I'm keeping an eye on conservative home so you lot don't have to. Go easy on me, the thread is so fast I can't promise I won't post links that are out of date :s

Read all eight threads and feeling a bit brave so I'll start with their picks for the cabinet.

Basically -

Brexit - David Davis, but Theresa Villiers would be preferred due to her negotiating experience.

Foreign office - hunt needs to go in and start again from scratch.

Home Office - remainer Fallon.

Treasury - looking for someone with a pro workers, pro savers, anti gimmick background; Hammond, Fox, Davis or Fallon.

BIS - not sure but think Javid is too different to May.

Still punting Boris for Culture and Leadsom to climate change

www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2016/07/may-joe-chamberlain-in-kitten-heels-who-will-serve-in-her-interventionist-cabinet-and-deliver-brexit.html

[SwedishEdith]

Still waiting to hear from my MP. She was a weak Remain.

[Showmethewaytogohome]

I might hunt out my Pokemon cards - they could be good currency over the next 6 years then

If we don't laugh we cry

[TheBathroomSink]

Shami Chakrabarti was sitting behind Corbyn at Select Committee hearing the other day - why?

Swedish, this was because he was answering questions about anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, following on from her report which concluded that it happened, but it wasn't anyone's fault.

The MPs had to tell her several times to stop feeding him the answers.

[Showmethewaytogohome]

Playduh

Thanks - any news about Georgie?

[Showmethewaytogohome]

Am also wondering if Culture is just to kill Boris off. All those dinners and drinks...not healthy

[BoreOfWhabylon]

Thanks once again Red

I now turn to these threads for all political news and analysis.

Long may they continue!

[SwedishEdith]

Ok, thanks TheBathroomSink. She'd be a good MP one day.

[Playduh]

NOT foreign office. They think he's got the wrong attitude to deliver her likely fiscal policy so not chancellor either.

They think she should bin him.

[TheBathroomSink]

Playduh - Climate Change would be fabulous for Leadsom, she does't really believe in it. Hunt at FO would give him the opportunity to fall out with the entire world. They're really pushing isolationism, there!!!

[TheBathroomSink]

Quote from Ruth Davidson's speech earlier (via Guardian blog)

Before politics not only was a BBC journalist but I singlehandedly saved the British banking system during the Barings collapse ... A little known fact was that I was the original Misha the bear at the 1980 Moscow olympics, and that was the same year I won Eurovision. Which speaking as a mother ...

[TheBathroomSink]

Telegraph has quotes from Dennis Skinner:

Speaking to reporters outside Labour HQ ahead of the meeting, Mr Skinner said: "There are some people in the party, especially in the Parliamentary Labour Party, that are acting like the UDM - the ones that lined up with Thatcher against the NUM."

Asked if the rebellious MPs were "scabs", he replied: "That's a matter for you to interpret, you seem very plausible."

[Showmethewaytogohome]

Playduh

I think you are right - I actually don't think GO would cause many issues on the bank benches. Will just slip into the furniture

Thebathroom Yes it would be good for her - may give her the collywobbles over her sunday roast!

[Showmethewaytogohome]

Thebathroom Love it!

As for Dennis - is he still there moving his soap box around. Lovely to hear the vernacular of the 1980's returning. Oh happy days not