The Westministenders Hunger Games continues. Hunting for the Opposition.

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THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD EIGHT!

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Each of the parties seem to have a taken a very different style to their leadership contests.

The Tory party have been well documented as doing in the classic style of Hamlet. After the entire Conservative Party have spent two weeks stabbing each in the back and front, May steps forward to take the crown for herself.

But what about the others?

The UKIP leadership contest seems to be in comedy style of Peter Kay’s Phoenix Nights. In a strange turn of events, that no one predicted and seem quite absurd, they seem to be changing their rules so their new leader must have been a member for 5 years. The punchline is this rules just about everyone out, apart from Neil Hamilton and Steven Woolfe. As BigChocFrenzy points out, we are expecting Arron Banks to hand out the brown envelopes. We are just waiting for the poorly thought out, and badly booked racist band to turn up and make everyone cringe in horror and distract everyone from UKIP's candidates and their manifestos in the process.

Meanwhile Labour Party decide to do what they thought was Star Wars Panto. After spending a week going “She’s Standing”, “Oh No She’s Not” Angela Eagle is declared the Empire Strikes Back candidate by Diane Abbot. Well if she’s the rebel leader, then who is Darth Vader and the Emperor?

Unfortunately, you’d be forgiven for thinking the performance is starting to look more and more like a re-enactment of One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, by the minute:

A battle of wills between two forces locked together in a room with ultimately different and opposing self-interests. This is only resolved when the new leader to the dynamic who sought to upset the institution, and give the others their freedom, is lobotomised and subsequently killed in an act of mercy. His murderer manages to escape the prison to the cheers of those still stuck inside.

The Greens of course are a foreign language film, no one has heard of and no one is really that interested in watching.

The Lib Dems are merely sat in the audience. With Tim Farron heckling.

But where is Gandalf?

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At least some sanity has returned and we now have some leaders. May can now get stuck into the job of handing the nightmare that is Brexit whilst making herself at home at Number 10. Rumours are circulating that it’s been left a bit of a pigsty.

We will follow May, on her new adventures to foreign lands to persuade Merkel and Juncker to hand over a mythical unicorn to the UK. Meanwhile will we continue our own hunt for the opposition, whilst we all consult our dictionaries for the meaning of the word ‘Brexit’ in bafflement in the wake of ‘Brexit means Brexit’.

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Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2682358-The-Westministenders-Media-Baron-Hunger-Games-continues-Is-it-about-to-all-implode?pg=1 Previous thread 7

Yes! I roar BEIGE! (sorry, not really good at roaring, more like hollering)

Fabians asked where I heard about them, so I said on Mumsnet. Wonder what they'll make of that.

The longer this goes on the worse JC looks. I voted for him.

What a daft decision to make, to prevent the last six months worth of members from voting as a member or buying a £25 vote.

I just don't get the buying a vote idea full stop. It's just so one to abuse.It was a stupid idea when it was £3. IIRC Corbyn would have won on just the membership vote anyway last time round although I can't remember if that included affiliated members from unions etc.

According to the paper review on the BBC, it did include the affiliated members, unions could sign them up at no cost to the member (I think that's what times guy said)

After NEC decision wrt JC
Laura Kuenssberg (JC supporter), tweet:
"Highly likely that Labour Party itself will challenge the decision in the courts"

Anybody planning court challenges to the sudden disenfranchising of many thousands of members ?

Wondered what Derek Hatton is up to these days. Delightful as ever

Derek Hatton ‏@DegsyHatton 3h3 hours ago
Derek Hatton Retweeted Angela Eagle
You might be glad they've come to a decision but you're more than pissed off over the decision they arrived at!Derek Hatton added,
Angela Eagle @angelaeagle
I'm glad Labour's NEC has come to a decision. I welcome the contest ahead. And I am determined to win it angela4labourleader.org/im_in/
13 retweets 19 likes

Bigchoc - there are lots of people talking about it on twitter, misleading terms & conditions being a top topic.

Bigchoc - Robert peston had said on Facebook that jc may try to overturn the £25 thing because they did it after he left.

Possibly he should have stayed till all the business was done?

Does Fabian page not imply that you can only vote if a member or supporter of the Labour Party due to one person one vote. In the past Fabian members got a seperate vote.

Apologies of mentioned already, this thread moves so fast. Jus received email regarding a petition I signed about voting g thresholds for a second referendum, for which there will be a debate start September. Interestingly, it contains this paragraph:

A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum

I'm possibly clutching at straws, but this doesn't look to me as though a second referendum is being ruled out at all.

It's also in marked contrast to the tone of response to petition asking for a second referendum which was emailed out about a lifetime week ago which basically just said "no".

Newsnight saying jc supporters want to challenge the 6 month and £25 thing at next NEC meeting. I don't know when that is though.

There's a 38degrees petition too.

Are we on page 10 already? This thread is moving super fast.

Dunno, tiggy, lots of irate jc supporters claiming they waited for him to leave to sneak it in, which peston also seems to suggest.

One of my local Labour Counsellor is on twitter tonight in utter despair. He's being consoled by a Lib Dem saying none of the hard working counsellors deserve any of this. Its heartbreaking.

Are they all teetotal? Is that why they can't organise a piss up in a brewery?

Globetrotter

Pointless getting your hopes up at all... The chances of a2nd referendum resulting from this debate are the same as Leicester Ciry winning the premiership.... Inconceivable as things currently stand but things are so wild and unpredictable at the moment we can't be sure of anything!

£3 was throwaway money though, they might as well have put BoatyMcBoatface on the ballot and people would have paid 3 quid for the lols.

I think a cut off before the referendum like the Tories is reasonable, not sure why they have to put it quite so far back?

I'm confused by the 6 month / £25 thing. Am I right in thinking that if pay £25 I can bypass the 6 month membership qualification? If so that's just bonkers, as all it does it make entryism that bit more expensive, disenfranchising penniless Trots but allowing the rest to wreak havoc.... Surely I've misunderstood?

Doesn't look like it flashbang, that seems to be what everyone understands it to be

That's fine noble, but people who joined this week got emails saying they could vote in membership elections, there was no 6 month rule at the time. Tory rule was always clear, so no argument.

Just all adds to the air of chaos.

No way is it that quick tiggy! There have to be at least 5 qc opinions, surely, and they'll need a steak or two before they start thinking. Plus breakfast, mid morning snack....