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How can anti racist white people halt this tsunami of racism and xenophobia that has been unleashed?

73 replies

Destinysdaughter · 26/06/2016 17:42

I'm horrified by the reports of people who are not white British being racially abused, being told to go back home etc since the results on Thursday. I know not all leavers voted for racist reasons, but I'm very scared about what this has unleashed. I feel quite defeated by it as its often irrational and is about scapegoating the other but it's very very real right now. I feel like we've just regressed to the 70's- early 80's and it was not a good place.

I just want to know, what can we do about it...?

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papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:15

racism isn't a new thing. There are racists everywhere. There were racist incidents last week, last year, last month.
Just because media outlets and people are now videoing incidents and sharing them on social networks, doesn't necessarily indicate that we've got a situation of spiralling racism and xenophobia which is any worse than your average day in the UK. Sadly, racist incidents are reported to the police hour after hour. This is not a fresh problem. Brexit did not create this.
The referendum was only 2 days ago!

BestIsWest · 26/06/2016 18:17

Hang on, We should be fighting ANY prejudice not claiming one is more worthy than the other.

Helmetbymidnight · 26/06/2016 18:18

I agree about prosperity- shame that door has closed.
Yes-We are going to have to speak up.

gunting · 26/06/2016 18:18

Papaya no one here is naive to think that racism has just started to exist. The problem is this referendum has legitimised racism. It's empowered the right wing extremists. Have you seen Britain Firsts fb since Friday? It's fucking unbearably smug and they have ramped it up and their likes have snowballed.

Destinysdaughter · 26/06/2016 18:18

No but it has ABSOLUTELY legitimized those pp who thought like this and now they feel free to say those things in public.That's the difference!

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Helmetbymidnight · 26/06/2016 18:19

It's not a new thing of course but we have just emboldened and empowered the racists. It is spiralling. I am surprised you don't get that.

Grassgreendashhabi · 26/06/2016 18:20

It might be helpful if every remained did not accuse every leaver of being racist!

Destinysdaughter · 26/06/2016 18:21

The

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papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:23

some people appear to want the economy to go tits up, racism to explode, wars to start and the UK to die a slow painful death just so they can say to their friend/relative "there, I told you I was right"

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/06/2016 18:23

No old person is going to be beaten up on the streets are they?

What, you mean like this?

It's absolutely not acceptable, though, for anyone to use one example of bad behaviour to excuse their own - which is why I agree about challenging all racism no matter who it comes from

Helmetbymidnight · 26/06/2016 18:24

Papayas, why would I want that for my kids? You are fucking having a laugh.

papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:29

The increasing hysteria is gradually building to a deafening crescendo.
I can understand huge disappointment and sadness, but the negativity is ultimately just self defeating.

gunting · 26/06/2016 18:29

Papaya this isn't a game. This is the future of everyone who lives within the EU.

ApocalypseSlough · 26/06/2016 18:30

Join a political party. Sign the referendum for another referendum- it won't happen but there's no appetite for Article 50 and showing you're unhappy will support those who want to stay that it is worth still fighting. There's also moves afoot for a march against Brexit here. Even if you can't go publicise it.
Flowers those who created this situation didn't do it in my name, but I am still sorry.

Destinysdaughter · 26/06/2016 18:32

I explicitly wrote in my OP that of course not every leaver was racist, but the reports of racism and hostility on the streets is v concerning and again, my question is, what can we do about this?

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Helmetbymidnight · 26/06/2016 18:32

I don't understand what you mean by hysteria. Do you find people discussing increasing incidents of racism hysterical?

papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:33

Gunting, I hadn't realized. Silly me!Hmm

gunting · 26/06/2016 18:33

So we have to minimise the feelings of all of the EU migrants, non EU migrants, 16m people who voted to remain and leave voters who think racism is abhorrent?

People are being spat at, shouted at, their houses are being vandalised, abuse is being posted through their letter boxes.

papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:35

discussing racism isn't hysterical, but pinning it onto brexit specifically, when racism has always been a massive problem in our society, especially in certain areas of the UK, is disingenuous and politically motivated at best.

Peppatina · 26/06/2016 18:43

Ffs.

And this is all down to leave is it?

Newsflash. I've been on the recurring end of racism all my life. It hasn't suddenly gotten worse, a lot of people have just started paying attention to it and publicising it on SM.

I suspect more to prove that they were right than for any real concern. After all where was all this attention and disgust before the vote?

I've been spat on and had 'bigger' screamed in my face by a bunch of Romanian men in our towns no go area while with my children.

I even wrote a thread about it and other reasons I felt uncontrolled immigration had affected me personally.

I have been called everything from an idiot to a thick racist twat by an awful lot of these so so caring remainers.

Oh. But racism really matters now doesn't it. Now you need to prove you are right. Now it will get spread around the telly and SM. Now you will tweet and retweet and post and protest and petition about it.

You go on pretending it's just because it's worse now.

Fucking sickens me.

Destinysdaughter · 26/06/2016 18:43

I don't actually think it is when so many pp have admitted that they voted on the basis of immigration and that there is a doubted rise in racism since

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Peppatina · 26/06/2016 18:44

'Nigger' not 'bigger'

Helmetbymidnight · 26/06/2016 18:46

As is denying it has anything to do with brexit.

Carry on denying though.

papayasareyum · 26/06/2016 18:48

Peppatina, you are absolutely spot on, but remainers will continue to use whatever means necessary to continue their narrative of choice.

OfficiallyUnofficial · 26/06/2016 18:48

Firstly Iwent out today paranoid about this (I'm white mixed race kids).

I'm in a deprived racist heartland territory and all I saw on FB/online is how everyone pretty much hates me and will be vocal about it.

NOTHING, not one look, not one whisper, not one negative glance. Lots of lovely people saying hello and helping when we got lost.

I'm not naive I know it exists and DH has had plenty of shit in the past (including a knife to his head at age 8 while his mother with baby brother screamed). But the tinterweb is creating than "tsunami" it's collecting and sharing the hate.

Anyway I think the rise of the a Far Right will actually subside with leaving the EU. People are territorial, they like to blame others for their ills, it's not nice but it is a part of nature we can't seem to overcome. With a loss of national identity driven by a more and more remote and completely misunderstood Brussels so the rise of this fear of losing the "country" and the openness to racist bullshit ACROSS Europe, there has been more of a power swing to the far right inside Europe (Le Pen anyone?) than in the UK who still sensibly didn't give the BNP et al a seat.

With no EU the legitimate face of racism UKIP had no reason to exist, and I hope against hope as power is more immediate and seen we can get back to hating Westminster and people from Lancashire more than each other.