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I regret the way I voted.

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lulucappuccino · 24/06/2016 23:58

After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

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Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 14:19

Exit

There's a lot of corporate backtracking going on;

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/morgan-stanley-brexit-eu-referendum-jobs-dublin-frankfurt-a7100911.html

E.g. "HSBC and Goldman Sachs have said they have no immediate plans to move operations out of the UK, despite statements made before the referendum." (From that link.)

CodewordRochambeau · 26/06/2016 14:19

The Times is supposed to be an educated newspaper and as thus can't be seen to obviously take sides. However, if you read the Times in the days running up to the vote there was a definite Out swing, with carefully selected news. Nothing like the Guardian.

'Quality', broadsheet newspapers are often just as partisan as tabloids. The Times explicitly backed Remain, whilst the Sunday Times backed Leave.

theclick · 26/06/2016 14:20

No, I voted to remain and if I had to do it again I would vote again to remain.

It's only the leave supporters who are regretting the way they voted...

Jasonandyawegunorts · 26/06/2016 14:20

The telegraph was very leave centric and still is.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 14:21

It's not inventing quotes Jason

CodewordRochambeau · 26/06/2016 14:23

OP - have you checked the voting stats for your local area?

They will probably show that your one vote for leaving did not sway the final result. I hope this makes you feel a bit better.

I don't usually say this, but that is just bollocks. This was not a vote for parliament. This was not by constituency.

Every bloody vote counted!

^^This. I am absolutely horrified by the number of people who have clearly totally misunderstood how a referendum works, and are making comments along the lines that 'I regret my vote but it wouldn't have counted anyway'.

Unforgivable ignorance.

KateInKorea · 26/06/2016 14:23

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lljkk · 26/06/2016 14:23

Who said the Telegraph was "quality" ? Wink

Jasonandyawegunorts · 26/06/2016 14:23

It's not inventing quotes Jason

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I didn't say it was, i'm on the "odd papers that support leave" subject.

Longislandicetee · 26/06/2016 14:30

The European countries are putting the pressure on for various reasons, none of which are in the UKs best interests. Cameron quitting and giving us a 4/5 month moratorium is actually the smartest thing to have done, because it doesn't start the 2 year Article 50 clock running for a few months. Everyone seems to be missing the point that there are something like 40,000 bits of EU law that have effect in the UK. 230 are EU Directives and 20,000 are regulations. The rest are other more informal rules. Does anyone honestly think we can successfully negotiate 20,000 formal rules in 2 years?

What you want to do is have your battle plan ready before you get into the negotiation. Triggering the time limit before we are ready to negotiate would be utterly moronic. Because the way Article 50 works is that if you don't agree the deal by the 2 years then the uk simply drops out of the EU with no access to the single market. Bye bye UK economy, hello deeper recession. So the close the UK gets to the 2 years before inking the deal, the weaker our bargaining position is and the EU will pressure us to accept a shitty deal. Again, does anyone honestly think we can successfully negotiate 20,000 formal rules in 2 years?

Anyway, back to the European politicians....so they can totally shaft us by getting us to trigger Article 50 early. They can extend the 2 year deadline but one of the sub paragraphs of Article 50 makes it clear all 27 countries would have to agree. snort!

On the other hand, it would suit some European countries to make this as painless and as quick as possible because the near certain UK recession that has been predicted by all major economists will have a huge empathy on the Eurozone economy and send them into recession too. But....they can't afford to make it quick and painless because if they do, it will send a signal to the rising number of leavers in France, Netherlands and Italy (polls show they would exit too given the chance), so that leaves you back to making it long and painful for the UK.

Which UK leader would want to trigger that shitstorm quickly? One of the things that beggars belief is the fact that Leave weren't made to explain how they would exit very clearly.

AugustMoon · 26/06/2016 14:31

Yeah and who's being spat at and insulted in the streets? Those who voted to leave?

eyebrowse · 26/06/2016 14:32

I don't think many people read the times as it is behind a paywall - so quite safe for it to support remain.

HSBC have said they are moving 1000 jobs if we leave the single market. If we don't want Europeans having a right to live here then we have to leave the single market.

The telegraph is not centrist as it often refuses to run articles put forward which would support a centrist view

unlucky83 · 26/06/2016 14:34

I'd also to be interest to know exactly who has definitely lost their job...(apart from MEPs and other people working actually in the EU - and they still do have a job at the moment...)
Nothing has changed yet...we have voted out and that's it.
All these threads with arguments against leaving and how awful things will be are just hot air - pointless now. As is berating the leavers.
Yes of course we have to try and look after people which includes not making people afraid and worried when they have nothing to worry about.
Believe me DP came home in a state -and he works with other people from the EU - as the remainers had been telling him what a disaster it was ..how he was going to be deported next week....etc
And that is not helping anyone.

Neither is trying to make people feel guilty about exercising their democratic rights.
Just get on with it...
kate don't be silly ...at least 49.1% of the population wouldn't support that - as for the leavers - I voted leave for democracy. Nothing to do with immigration. I am sure I am far from on my own ... I think what you have said is scaremongering - not constructive...
And I'd actually be more concerned about the rise in the right wing in the rest of the EU if we had remained in...especially if the euro collapses...

StrictlyMumDancing · 26/06/2016 14:44

Yeah and who's being spat at and insulted in the streets? Those who voted to leave?

No, those with the wrong face or skin colour. No one could tell which way I voted when they shouted at me on Friday. In fact those people didn't even know what my ethnicity or nationality was, I just don't look British enough.

ClassicCoast · 26/06/2016 14:50

Since the result Augustmoon it is our small local Indian community that has been assaulted and spat at. One resident had two downstairs Windows smashed and a swasticker painted on his house wall.

I suspect those voting leave have been insulted by the spurious arguments they were sold in and believed.

Just5minswithDacre · 26/06/2016 14:52

Sorry Jason. I have too many tabs open.

Jasonandyawegunorts · 26/06/2016 14:54

Sorry Jason. I have too many tabs open.

no problem, i gave up serious EU discussion a while ago.

AugustMoon · 26/06/2016 15:40

I'm very sorry to hear that classicoast - that is not what the majority of leave voters stand for.
I feel insulted more by the fact that normally rational individuals are just repeating themselved ad nauseum - misinformed, ashamed, disgusted. It is appalling. People voted for their own reasons - it may have been a gut feeling, it may have been by believing the quite obviously outlandish claims made by the likes of Farage or perhaps just a desire for change or for not to feel like we fought two world wars for nothing or because they were asked their opinion and gave it. It is those who were willing to take that risk for something they believe is the right thing. It is called democracy. It is not Naziism, or racism.

ClassicCoast · 26/06/2016 15:46

Not it's not yet it stands shoulder to shoulder with both

Peregrane · 26/06/2016 16:49

Those saying that the lives of many who have been struggling and feel that whatever change comes could not be for the worse.

It can and it will be for the worse. In their own lives. That is part of the tragedy of it. Sure, stock markets fluctuate. But do you really think it will be business as usual next week, or next month, or next year? Few will want to invest into Britain with this massive uncertainty hanging around for possibly years to come (until the details of the UK's new relationship with the EU are hammered out), and with certainly diminished trading opportunities (surely no leaver is dim enough to seriously think they could shut the door to the movement of EU people while keeping it open for the movement of goods).

Even bloody Farage admits now that the UK is heading into a recession. Which was certainly not the case on Thursday and yes, you can thank Brexit for that. How, exactly, do you think this will mean more money for the NHS, and more investment into services for the poor and the working class? You have got to be having a laugh.

What sickens me most is the flood of racist attacks that have been unleashed with this vote. Adults abusing foreign children telling them to get out now. People receiving notes saying "Polish vermin" in their letterboxes. Do you know what tends to happen historically when people feel emboldened to call other people vermin? I am perfectly aware that most Brexiters are in most likelihood not racist. But they bloody well have a responsibility now to actively act against what has been unleashed, because those who are racist certainly feel that society is with them.

unlucky83 · 26/06/2016 17:10

So what do you think the racists would have done if bremain had won?
With the racists leavers feeling as upset as the bremainers are - who aren't exactly behaving graciously...
I felt really proud of our democratic system when I saw that mob screaming abuse and threats at a politician who at the end of the day was on the same side of the majority of the electorate in this country...if you don't like the democratic result threaten mob power to get the result you want - great! (no wonder they wanted to remain in the Eu ..seeing as they they don't like or respect democracy...)

spabbygirl · 26/06/2016 17:24

I voted in and would do it again. A lot of people were persuaded by Boris's bus and its promise of great riches for the NHS. That isn't going to happen. Boris, Gove, IDS etc. loathe the poor and only want to pay less tax so they can keep more for themselves.

Vickchick31 · 26/06/2016 17:27

No definitely not. No one has a crystal ball and predict the future. I voted based on research and stand by my decision.

madjakel · 26/06/2016 17:27

I voted to leave and I'm so glad we won!! I don't regret it one bit, so deal with it and stop bloody whinging...........

bunnyfuller · 26/06/2016 17:28

Without wishing to be rude, this was too huge to trust to democracy. So many voting on the basis of immigration only, and so many not bothering reading any further than the DF. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Doesn't the fact that Donald Trump supports Out give people a clue? I'm absolutely livid so many ill-informed people have potentially ruined my and my children's futures.