Anyone else completely changed their opinion of friends/family over how they vote?

[Surferjet]

I've got a few 'remain' close( ish ) family members who I never want to see again such is my strength of feeling over this.
It's our version of the miners strike & they'll always be traitors to me.

I've been quite shocked by some of the unexamined class prejudice hovering just below the surface in FB posts virtue-signalling for Remain, from people who I thought had more critical insight than that.

In terms of debates though it's generally been civil. My family is 50/50 Remain/Leave and no-one is going to fall out over it.

Thanks Humphrey, you've just summed up how I feel in a much more concise way.

Yes I have no issue with how anyone votes as even I don't think either option is perfect. Im choosing the lesser of 2 evils. The way people have been expressing it and how pushy they have been has pissed me off. I don't talk to anyone except dh about how I voted.

Humphrey - you have summarised my experience perfectly. I'm unusual among my circle for being a Leaver (not related to immigration, don't really care about that) and have felt quite wounded by the casual assumptions of moral superiority on display from Remainers.

I haven't been surprised or disappointed. I have a very small few friends who are voting leave. I have always known them to be rather insular, small-minded people and this opinion hasn't changed.

The huge majority of friends and family are vocal remain voters.

I am relieved it is not just me. Nearly everyone I know is a remain voter. Certainly everyone on Facebook. I have been hitting hide quite a lot.

No - but that's because I don't know any real-life Brexit voters.

Came across my first one at a party on Saturday. She told us she was voting "Leave" because her daughter lived in Kent and there was a problem with immigrants/refugees (she wasn't differentiating) and that "IT WAS ALL ANGELA MERKEL'S FAULT. SHE WAS LETTING THEM IN".

We agreed to differ and moved in to talk to someone else.

Surfer DH and I are on opposite sides of the fence.

I didn't try and convert him, its his decision to make. Well, I jokingly tried a few things tried to ask what he was basing his vote on....

But very light, nothing heavy. I was and AM still OK about his choice but then, in the actual booth this morning with DD right there looking at her, thinking, this is the time when we get back democracy or in the future her vote means nothing. I felt much stronger about it. How could he do it do our DD? Rob her of the future? What if she becomes PM one day It will be a hollow Crown.

Toby Young was right yesterday on that awful final debate program think of all the movements in history who have died to get you the vote, not just the suffragettes, and yet people want to vote to give away their power.

I have met some pretty stupid Remain voters too. People who say they are voting Remain because they like to travel

I try not to assume all Remain voters are stupid

As PP have said I've not changed my view of people based on how they vote but on how they've treated and talked about people who are voting differently to them. Some of my friends and acquaintances have proved themselves to be very obnoxious.

I have always known them to be rather insular, small-minded people and this opinion hasn't changed

What an odd remark! Looking only to the EU is insular and small minded actually.

I was an undecided/out voter until the last minute when I went to vote and I put a cross in remain. It didn't feel right to me standing there to cross leave.

My out feelings were not anything to do with immigration and I have been surprised myself at the amount of people simply voting out for that reason.

I also have been a bit shocked at some people and their reasons for wanting to stay. for instance someone who thinks that if we leave the EU then we will be invaded by Russian commandos that will start at the top of Scotland and finish in the south of England taking great Britain for Putin and we will have to line the streets and salute him when he passes.

anyone got a spare foil hat for them? That's the ONLY reason they stated.

Same Manatee and Humphrey. Hitting hide on FB and mute on Twitter.

I'd be happy to show my viewpoint if others would have a reasonable, thought out discussion about it, but you know as soon as you say Leave, certain insults and insinuations are brought out.

Regarding immigration, I've been an immigrant for the past 5 years and am the daughter of an immigrant to the UK. I'd be pretty hypocritical to vote leave solely on that issue. I'm all for immigration, I'd be open to more non-EU immigration to increase diversity from the mainly Caucasian immigrants from the EU.

How is it inward-looking and anti-internationalist to want to open trade with other parts of the world, not just focusing on one tiny area?

Humprhey you couldnt make it up, I have had remainers tell me its because their holiday will be more expensive and they all need visas to go to spain.

^^ but if anything that just shows a lack of education which we cant blame them for.

well said jamie, its basic common sense.

I haven't really changed my views of anyone, but then, most people I know are voting Remain like me. And all of the leave voters who I know have been disgusted by the leave campaign, so no judgements from me on that front either.

Had anyone actually supported or repeated the vile crap that was being spouted by the leave campaign, I guess I'd feel differently.

"They'll always be traitors to me"

Your reaction to this is really ott. Is there a background to this? People are entitled to vote the way they want. The sun will rise tomorrow, you know.

I've always known that PILs are bigoted racists; it's taken the referendum for DH to see it though.

I respect both well reasoned and well argued viewpoints, and I also respect people have the right to vote for whichever way they think is best.

However, I am deeply deeply hurt by friends from the Remain camp who seem to think the only positive, loving and caring way people can vote is remain.

I have also gone off several people I know who have said "I am voting leave..." And I expect a nice reasoned arguement but it turns out "it's about immegration". Grrrr.

People from both sides need to remember half the country thinks the other way and we all have to live together come Friday.

Another one who's the opposite way around- I'm remain and I've been surprised and upset by the amount of apparently small minded racists I know.

My husband and I had a robust discussion about it on the phone this morning. We're on opposite sides.

However, both of us were undecided until this week so we've had quite a few discussions about it. Wouldn't fall out about it though with him as he's not being offensive and visa versa.

My fil on the other hand, it's just confirmed what an dick he is. As he would only talk about one issue; talk over people and quote shit without any basis of fact. But that wasn't a surprise. He's like that with everything.

YES! I've been flabbergasted by the poisonous shit certain family members supporting Brexit have posted. EURef has split my family apart. I'm so sad about it

I agree that it has changed my views of acquaintances; so much of the Leave rhetoric is based on stopping immigration. Everyonealmost I care about is voting Remain; those voting Leave have examined the issues very carefully and made reasoned decisions.

Someone asked me in the park today how I intended to vote. I said as a working class woman living in Wales who wants to see a positive future for her descendants I would definitely vote Remain with the proviso that I would expect some examination of the system.
Why would I vote against my own self-interest and that of my class?

He looked at me as though I was speaking Greek and wandered off muttering immigrants........

I plan to go to a meeting in Cardiff on Saturday, supporting Refugees and Migrants as the language and attitudes expressed recently have appalled me.
If you take the time to actually meet people from other countries you realise the communality of wants and needs we all share and the fear that drives people to leave their homes.

I am very scared today.

I have no issue with which way any one votes, but I agree with everyone else on this thread that it's the way people express it that causes me to judge them.

I've unfollowed two friends in FB due to some shite posts stating that remain is the only moral choice, people voting to leave are thick, racist, shouldn't be allowed to vote etc.

I never thought of them as out of touch before, but their disdain for low paid people worried about their jobs and the sneering suggestion that the working class are stupid was really quite depressing.