What would it take to vote for the Green Party? (If you don’t already!!)

[Redkamishibai]

I’m just learning about the Green Party and forming my own view of it. I can see some quite big changes they would need to capture my vote but I wondered what other people thought? Would your children encourage you to vote green and if they did would you follow their encouragement?

Greens employed him knowing he was waiting trial

Well it was his daughter, a Transgender activist who employed him as their campaign agent. The Greens just trusted the person aiming to be deputy in the party to be honest, which shows naïveté at best and incompetence at worst.

They really need to get over the gender woowoo and protect women's rights.

They also need to look at their supporters and campaigners. Some are lovely but some are so righteous that only their way of thinking is the right way, I've seen it over trans rights and in outrage at the lockdown. Yes I'm sure as they loudly claimed it's because they really care about everyone they really believe they're right, but people can make up their own minds without being preached to daily over social media

Some unblinkered and constructive thinking about Israel and the West Bank would be nice too

FubsyRambler

They knew. There are threads on here which recorded their knowledge at the time. When the shit hit the fan the where back peddling and deleting stuff all over the place. Then feigned ignorance.

@NewYearNewTwatName

FubsyRambler

They knew. There are threads on here which recorded their knowledge at the time. When the shit hit the fan the where back peddling and deleting stuff all over the place. Then feigned ignorance.

Oh Bugger.

Oh. ....my.....goodness!!

I honestly had no idea.
As an outsider (I am considering standing as a Green Party candidate in the council elections next year) I just hadn’t spotted this. But a member tipped me off that it was an issue so I thought I’d gauge the emotion without specifically mentioning it.

Thank you so much for the reality check.

I was a member and a candidate for numerous elections.

I’ve left because they are more interested in ‘correct’ pronouns than women’s or animal rights.

None of the green MEP’s have done anything about EU super trawlers decimating ocean beds, nothing to stop live animal transport or non stun slaughter.

The whole Challenor business was horrific.

I met a member recently who was an animal vivisectionist and tried to convince me of the benefits of drowning mice in beakers to further our understanding of mental health.

The best thing I did for my mental health was to leave the Green Party.

I have found some aspects more an ‘ideology’ than practical policies people would vote for. There’s also quite a strong view that “all business and industry is evil”. The issue is that job security is foremost in people’s minds, particularly when they’re trying to raise a family. So non-judgmental engagement and influencing is the key for them to win votes.

Proportional representation. I would consider it at a local level or if I lived in a safe seat.

I’m so sorry to hear about your negative experience (that sounds like some terrible Tesco reply!!)
I mean this because putting yourself out there is a scary thing to do and you should come away feeling proud and invigorated.

Hmm...

I prefer single issue pressure groups to politics as politicians don’t agitate for change and only respond to public pressure

I can't take a party that advocates for the environment seriously if it is not willing to accept the reality of sex.

So they'd have to completely change their perspective on that. Support women's sex based rights and maybe, just maybe I'd consider giving them one of my votes (PR system in Scotland)

Aside from the women as non-men issues, they wouldn't get my vote in a GE as their policies relating to fossil fuels (diesel etc) whilst laudable would be a disaster for rural economies. Making petrol/diesel cost more in places where public transport is not an option would affect populations already with low incomes, low employment etc.

There were Green Party members who raised concerns at the time. They were treated awfully and ousted

They would have to understand what a woman is and they would have to apologise for the Challenor fiasco and their handling of it. They would need to show that they now understand safeguarding And until this happens I'm not interested in anything else they have to say.

@FubsyRambler

Waiting for the women interested in debating politics who aren’t feminists

@ @ @ @

Sorry fussy rambler, late to the game as I was busy sucking my husband's cock while similtaniously baking some lovely fruit tartlets and knowing my place...that's what you meant by wanting to debate with the non feminists right? women wouldn't have the vote without those pesky original much celebrated feminists so your comment is farcical.

Back to the original question, long time green voter until a child was raped and tortured at a green party HQ and everyone that I thought I knew was decent and would be outraged and horrified by this wanted to sweep it under the carpet and not talk about it.

I’ve been a feminist for 50 years, my comment and the accompanying tumbleweeds were a reference to the posters who were upset about comments by posters from the FWR board.
I also suck cock and bake. Not concurrently, as a 2nd wave Feminist, I find I no longer have the physical flexibility of you youngsters.

Apologies for confusing you, skeletonbones.

Apologies fussyrambler! I must admit the cocksucking + culinary activities are getting a bit hard on my knees these days also esp as winter approaches. Maybe we should have a bake off fellatio board so as to lament these problems, very remiss of mumsnet not to have provided one already

What it take for me to vote Green Party? I would vote for them if they are running as Democrats. Remember politics can evolve even if the name and foundation is the same.

@blueberrypie0112

What it take for me to vote Green Party? I would vote for them if they are running as Democrats. Remember politics can evolve even if the name and foundation is the same.

My goal is to make sure the other party doesn’t win and making a bigger mess. Voting a third party only give them a better chance to win. I am not voting some party that have no chance.

I won't ever vote for them. I can't take them seriously as a national political force if they cannot even tell the difference between simple biology.

They need to ditch the TWAW shite.

The Greens are fucking unhinged around women's rights these days.

The Challenor debacle sums it all up for me.

I would vote green if I thought they had any chance of winning in my constituency. Unfortunately it seems like a wasted vote when so few people in my area choose to vote for them.

Better understanding of biology and how that affects people's lives

Is there a theme here?

Our local Green candidate seems excellent and I would have voted for her in a heartbeat last time if the party hadn't turned into a biology-denying cult of misogyny with zero respect for safeguarding.

They are in dangerous thrall to a damaging ideology, to the extent that the environment is no longer their priority.