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Elderly parents

My head is spinning trying to plan for my father's future.

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NigglyPig · 05/08/2026 12:23

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Sorry, this will be long.

My dad had a stroke in May and spent around a month in hospital. Although he hasn’t lost the use of his limbs, he is now very frail and has vision problems caused by the stroke.

He was discharged home, where he lives alone in a two-storey house. There are several steps up to the front door, more steps throughout the back garden, and the main bathroom is upstairs. Downstairs, there is only a toilet with a tiny sink. A bed was set up in the living room and carers were arranged several times a day to administer his many medications.
I live overseas and initially had to rely on family and friends for updates, as Dad was very confused and I couldn’t depend on what he was telling me. He asked my mum how her dad was, even though he died several years ago, and asked me where Mum lives now, despite her having lived in the same house since the 1970s.

After returning home, Dad repeatedly fell, was extremely forgetful and wasn’t eating properly. We don’t know whether he had become used to being given three meals a day in hospital, couldn’t be bothered to prepare food, or simply forgot to eat. People would visit him, but he often couldn’t remember that they had been there.

I booked a flight over to help him and make the house safer, but before I arrived he fell again, breaking his collarbone and splitting his head open. He was readmitted to hospital. He also has type 2 diabetes, and his HbA1c was 18 when he was admitted.

When I arrived two weeks ago, I spoke to the ward staff about what should happen next and explained how worried I was about him returning home. One member of staff referred to his previous discharge as a “failed discharge”, so at least it seems to be recognised that sending him home was the wrong decision.
He was moved to a hospital rehabilitation centre two weeks ago. He expected to receive regular physiotherapy to rebuild his strength and stamina, as he has lost a great deal of weight and muscle. Unfortunately, very little rehabilitation seems to be happening. He spends most of the day sitting in his room and is not allowed to leave without supervision. We can take him for short walks or longer trips in a wheelchair, but he is becoming extremely frustrated and bored.
He has apparently had a couple of exercise sessions, but he can’t remember them and insists they never happened.

An occupational therapist called me on Saturday and said she had tried to complete a Mental Capacity Assessment, but Dad wasn’t interested in participating. She said he seemed more focused on the drink she had made him than answering her questions. Someone tried again two days later, but he apparently refused.
Dad told me that someone had spoken to him that day, but she spoke so quietly that he couldn’t understand her. His hearing is very poor, even with hearing aids. I have told him that if anyone tries again, he must explain clearly if he cannot hear or understand them.

The OT understands that I am only here for another couple of weeks, although I will return next month, and she is trying to move things forward. My biggest concern is that Dad will be found to have capacity and will choose to return home, despite having told the OT himself that he does not believe he would be safe there.

He has less than £13,000 in savings, receives a pension but no other benefits, and does not own any property or significant assets.

I am struggling to get clear answers, as I can ask two people the same question and receive two completely different responses. The OT seems very helpful, but I don’t know what else I should be doing, what assessments or funding I should be asking for, or what benefits I could apply for on Dad’s behalf.
With his permission, I am also in the process of arranging Lasting Power of Attorney.

For anyone who has been through a similar situation, do you have any advice about what I should be asking for or doing next?
Thank you!

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CandidLurker · 13/08/2026 20:37

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 16:15

He was assessed recently and does not qualify for any residential care home funding. I will be looking for sheltered accommodation for him so he'll have his own place, but fully accessible and with wardens on site.
He has an amazing network of friends who will help him with the social side of things. I am really only looking for carers to administer his meds properly and give him ready-prepared food

Just to clarify has he been assessed by Social services as not requiring residential care or the funding as they are separate decisions? The need/requirement comes first and then the funding of it is then resolved based on the financial position of the individual at the time.

LoafofSellotape · 14/08/2026 00:03

A social worker from adult social services spent a long time with my mum in the rehab, she wrote a 5 page report on her condition and capabilities and how she felt about living alone.

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 08:57

CandidLurker · 13/08/2026 20:37

Just to clarify has he been assessed by Social services as not requiring residential care or the funding as they are separate decisions? The need/requirement comes first and then the funding of it is then resolved based on the financial position of the individual at the time.

Not requiring to be in a care home. They are already aware of his financial position (well below the lowest threshold).

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LoafofSellotape · 14/08/2026 09:31

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 08:57

Not requiring to be in a care home. They are already aware of his financial position (well below the lowest threshold).

But he hasn't had a SS assessment?

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 11:41

LoafofSellotape · 14/08/2026 09:31

But he hasn't had a SS assessment?

Yes he has. It was SS who said he didn't need to be a care home.

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jackstini · 14/08/2026 12:14

Has the mental health team been involved yet?
There should be a discharge planning team who speak with his mental health, adult social services and medical teams - then decide if he is safe to be discharged

With the amount of falls he had last time I would keep reiterating it was a failed discharge and put in writing that you do not believe it is safe for him to go home, even with 4 care visits a day

DO NOT move in with him. If they see this is a possible care option, they will leave you to it!

LoafofSellotape · 14/08/2026 12:49

jackstini · 14/08/2026 12:14

Has the mental health team been involved yet?
There should be a discharge planning team who speak with his mental health, adult social services and medical teams - then decide if he is safe to be discharged

With the amount of falls he had last time I would keep reiterating it was a failed discharge and put in writing that you do not believe it is safe for him to go home, even with 4 care visits a day

DO NOT move in with him. If they see this is a possible care option, they will leave you to it!

Totally agree with this. Don't move in.

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 19:26

Yes, mental health have been involved and declared that he has capacity.

We had quite a long chat with the ward sister yesterday. The rehab unit is operating at 1/3 of their staff capacity which is why everyone is left to sit in their rooms doing bugger all, with a physical therapy session once a week if they're lucky - and why my Dad was only showered onec in exactly three weeks.
After being assessed as having mental capacity and insufficient needs to require care home funding, rehab was trying to help him go home - nothing else. After assessments there was never going to be any other outcome than sending him home. I cannot depend on social services (or any other govt. services) to do anything to help so I am having to deal with everything myself.
He has been officially discharged.
He came home today and I am staying with him. I am flying home on Thursday and that's non-negotiable. I've already extended my time here by three weeks.
I'm interviewing a carer on Sunday and will have a ready meal service in place before I leave. He has a huge and wonderful network of friends who will back the carer service up.
I will be back three weeks later with a plan to find him a more suitable place to live. The situation he's in now is not ideal, but it is only temporary.

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johnworf · 14/08/2026 19:52

I am in a similar position that dad is about to be discharged from hospital where he has been for the past 4 weeks having had another fall and fracturing his neck.

He is in sheltered accommodation and at the disharge meeting SW wanted to discharge him home despite the OT and physio agreeing he is a significant fall risk. His cognitive function is also failing.

I stood my ground and said absolutely not and if they did so it would contravene the social care act 2014 where discharge had to be to a safe environment.

I ran all my points through AI and it gave me these key points which I used to justify why he needed 24 hour care.

Safeguarding Risks
Discharging him home to live independently would expose him to foreseeable risks including:
Further falls causing serious injury.
Medication errors or failure to take essential medication.
Malnutrition and dehydration.
Self-neglect.
Inability to summon help in an emergency.
Increased confusion and disorientation.
Increased likelihood of emergency hospital readmission.
These risks are foreseeable and place him at significant risk of harm.

Care Act 2014
Under the Care Act 2014, the local authority and NHS have a duty to promote an individual's wellbeing, prevent or delay the development of care needs where possible, and ensure that eligible care and support needs are properly assessed and met. They also have safeguarding responsibilities where an adult with care and support needs is at risk of abuse or neglect and unable to protect themselves.
In my view, discharging him to live alone without appropriate support would not meet these duties and would expose him to avoidable harm.
Recommendation
Given his physical frailty, visual impairment, cognitive difficulties, inability to manage medication independently, repeated falls, and the loss of sustainable informal care, I believe he now requires 24-hour residential care where staff are available at all times to:
Monitor his safety.
Prevent and respond promptly to falls.
Administer and supervise medication.
Support nutrition and hydration.
Assist with personal care and daily living.
Monitor changes in his physical and mental condition.
Provide reassurance and supervision throughout both the day and night.
This level of care cannot be safely achieved if he is discharged home to live independently.

Before any discharge takes place, I request:
A full Care Act assessment.
A formal mental capacity assessment where appropriate.
Occupational therapy and physiotherapy assessments.
A carer's assessment for his partner.
A comprehensive assessment of his long-term care needs.
Consideration and assessment for permanent residential care.
Closing Statement
I ask that my concerns are formally recorded in the MDT minutes. If a decision is made to discharge him home despite these identified risks, I request that the MDT clearly documents how each identified risk will be mitigated and who will be responsible for managing those risks. In my view, discharge home would be unsafe and would place him at significant and foreseeable risk of serious harm.

We went to view a care home today as the LA have now agreed to fund a place for him. Hope you manage to get the appropriate care your dad needs.

Viviennemary · 14/08/2026 19:58

NigglyPig · 07/08/2026 19:22

So, an update today.
He's not eligible for any care home funding so he will be sent home with a care package. I will try and get him out asap and move in with him to help him until the care package is in place.
I see it as temporary and will look for somewhere more suited to his needs with 24/7 support should he need it. I can't remember the term. Sheltered housing? Assisted living? Independent living?

You need to ask why he isn't eligible for care home funding. If he doesn't own a property and has savings under £23k then he should be eligible if he is assessed as needing residential care. That's afaik.

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 21:10

Viviennemary · 14/08/2026 19:58

You need to ask why he isn't eligible for care home funding. If he doesn't own a property and has savings under £23k then he should be eligible if he is assessed as needing residential care. That's afaik.

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That’s just it - they are saying he doesn’t need residential care 🤷‍♀️

johnworfHe is in sheltered accommodation and at the disharge meeting SW wanted to discharge him home despite the OT and physio agreeing he is a significant fall risk. His cognitive function is also failing”

This sounds very familiar. Moving him into sheltered accommodation is my aim.

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johnworf · 14/08/2026 21:22

NigglyPig · 14/08/2026 21:10

That’s just it - they are saying he doesn’t need residential care 🤷‍♀️

johnworfHe is in sheltered accommodation and at the disharge meeting SW wanted to discharge him home despite the OT and physio agreeing he is a significant fall risk. His cognitive function is also failing”

This sounds very familiar. Moving him into sheltered accommodation is my aim.

He is moving out of sheltered housing and into residential care. You need to be fairly able bodied and independent for sheltered housing. He is neither.

listitorchuckit · 21/08/2026 06:46

LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 11:59

Sadly I think one shower a month is normal in hospital but he will have had a thorough top to toe wash every day.

Does he need a higher toilet or bath seat? All that should be ordered by the OT.

if only ! my dad has had just one such wash in 11 days of being on a hospital ward.

NigglyPig · 21/08/2026 19:28

That's ridiculous!

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johnworf · 22/08/2026 10:07

listitorchuckit · 21/08/2026 06:46

if only ! my dad has had just one such wash in 11 days of being on a hospital ward.

Absolutely shocking! 😱

attichoarder · 22/08/2026 10:27

We have been dealing with a similar situation, the “rehabilitation “ was non existent at the hospital despite being called that. The OTs in my view seem very chaotic with poor communication skills.

NigglyPig · 22/08/2026 18:41

attichoarder seems it's a widespread problem, unfortunately.

My Dad is now home. Nothing was put in place for his return. I stayed with him for the first week but have had to return home.
I've employéd a care agency who are visiting a couple of times a day to give his meds, make sure he's ok, make him a cuppa or a sandwich and do a few household duties.
He can make simple meals like scrambled egg or baked beans on toast. He can do laundry and wash and dress himself but he is still restricted to living downstairs so can't get upstairs to shower. The carers should be helping with that.
He can't stay where he is so before I come back to England in a few weeks I'm going to look for warden-patrolled/sheltered accommodation.

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listitorchuckit · 23/08/2026 12:01

attichoarder · 22/08/2026 10:27

We have been dealing with a similar situation, the “rehabilitation “ was non existent at the hospital despite being called that. The OTs in my view seem very chaotic with poor communication skills.

This, precisely this !

My dad is also being regarded as potentially racist. He is slightly hard of hearing and in addition over the last couple of years we've noticed that he can no longer process new information quickly.
Most of the ward staff have strong foreign accents which he isn't used to (I have to listen very carefully and sometimes need to ask them to repeat what they've just said) or they speak too quickly.

They say he's having physio daily but this mainly consists of massaging his legs with an antimicrobial cream. He was admitted as he'd been unable to stand up on his own. There doesn't seem to be any plan O/T plan to get him mobile again now that they've sorted out the medical issue they believed was causing the problem.

10 days ago an O/T said he would ring us the next day. We're still waiting......

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