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Elderly parents

My head is spinning trying to plan for my father's future.

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NigglyPig · 05/08/2026 12:23

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! Sorry, this will be long.

My dad had a stroke in May and spent around a month in hospital. Although he hasn’t lost the use of his limbs, he is now very frail and has vision problems caused by the stroke.

He was discharged home, where he lives alone in a two-storey house. There are several steps up to the front door, more steps throughout the back garden, and the main bathroom is upstairs. Downstairs, there is only a toilet with a tiny sink. A bed was set up in the living room and carers were arranged several times a day to administer his many medications.
I live overseas and initially had to rely on family and friends for updates, as Dad was very confused and I couldn’t depend on what he was telling me. He asked my mum how her dad was, even though he died several years ago, and asked me where Mum lives now, despite her having lived in the same house since the 1970s.

After returning home, Dad repeatedly fell, was extremely forgetful and wasn’t eating properly. We don’t know whether he had become used to being given three meals a day in hospital, couldn’t be bothered to prepare food, or simply forgot to eat. People would visit him, but he often couldn’t remember that they had been there.

I booked a flight over to help him and make the house safer, but before I arrived he fell again, breaking his collarbone and splitting his head open. He was readmitted to hospital. He also has type 2 diabetes, and his HbA1c was 18 when he was admitted.

When I arrived two weeks ago, I spoke to the ward staff about what should happen next and explained how worried I was about him returning home. One member of staff referred to his previous discharge as a “failed discharge”, so at least it seems to be recognised that sending him home was the wrong decision.
He was moved to a hospital rehabilitation centre two weeks ago. He expected to receive regular physiotherapy to rebuild his strength and stamina, as he has lost a great deal of weight and muscle. Unfortunately, very little rehabilitation seems to be happening. He spends most of the day sitting in his room and is not allowed to leave without supervision. We can take him for short walks or longer trips in a wheelchair, but he is becoming extremely frustrated and bored.
He has apparently had a couple of exercise sessions, but he can’t remember them and insists they never happened.

An occupational therapist called me on Saturday and said she had tried to complete a Mental Capacity Assessment, but Dad wasn’t interested in participating. She said he seemed more focused on the drink she had made him than answering her questions. Someone tried again two days later, but he apparently refused.
Dad told me that someone had spoken to him that day, but she spoke so quietly that he couldn’t understand her. His hearing is very poor, even with hearing aids. I have told him that if anyone tries again, he must explain clearly if he cannot hear or understand them.

The OT understands that I am only here for another couple of weeks, although I will return next month, and she is trying to move things forward. My biggest concern is that Dad will be found to have capacity and will choose to return home, despite having told the OT himself that he does not believe he would be safe there.

He has less than £13,000 in savings, receives a pension but no other benefits, and does not own any property or significant assets.

I am struggling to get clear answers, as I can ask two people the same question and receive two completely different responses. The OT seems very helpful, but I don’t know what else I should be doing, what assessments or funding I should be asking for, or what benefits I could apply for on Dad’s behalf.
With his permission, I am also in the process of arranging Lasting Power of Attorney.

For anyone who has been through a similar situation, do you have any advice about what I should be asking for or doing next?
Thank you!

OP posts:
Noras · 10/08/2026 13:08

My dad was dying of cancer and for the initial stage the ‘care’ package was arrive at 7.00 when he was fast asleep. Leave breakfast to congeal and do a minimal 15 mins do not much as he was too tired still to be washed. Next at much make a meal at 11.30 ( but I had mad when breakfast at 10.00 so he was not hungry) Evening arrive 6.00 to make him and sandwich and put him to bed ( he did not want to go to bed at 6.00)

in reality he either goes into a residential home or you need to advertise for a local carer. Sadly it will al cost if you want to ensure that he is well looked after.

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 13:10

hahabahbag · 05/08/2026 14:56

He needs to be assessed, if it’s health related nhs continuing care should be your first option as that’s not means tested, second option is adult social services. As far as paying for care if you have to go down the social services route, they will look into finances carefully, you say you own the property, but did he own it before and how did the transfer happen? They will be looking to see if it’s deprivation of assets

People are not assessed for CHC in a hospital and is very difficult to meet the threshold.

NigglyPig · 10/08/2026 13:55

Thank you everybody. I forgot to check this and started another thread in frustration.
I'm on my phone but will try and answer you all in turn.

7planeteclipse AA is on my to-do list. The shopping, cleaning etc can be handled privately. If the carers aren’t enough/after the six weeks I am prepared to hire private carers.
His needs were not assessed to be enough to require care home funding.

ForDreamyMintHare I am his only relative and I live overseas. I’ve been here almost three weeks and have to leave at the end of next week. I am making sure everyone I talk to knows that. I’m not averse to paying for private carers, I just want to get him out of there, he’s going crazy.

LoafofSellotape I didn’t realise that about meals on wheels - thank you.

In the 18 days he’s been in there they’ve showered him once.
When he was first released from hospital carers were arranged, that was it. No provision for him being able to get out of his front of back door, or get to bed. I thought they had provided a bed downstairs but only found out a couple of days ago that it was provided by a bed. He was sent home unable to even go to bed. He slept on the couch at first.

OP posts:
Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 14:15

Private carers can be arranged via Adult Social care. If he has care needs and under the financial threshold, he might only have to make a contribution. The carers can, if he needs it, do an evening call which can get him ready for bed. They won't take him out if that's what you mean about the door.

catofglory · 10/08/2026 14:27

I am sorry to hear your update, but not surprised this is what SS have offered. I doubt it will work.

I would not look for sheltered accommodation or similar, from all you have said it will not meet his needs. He needs a care home. Social Services will only pay for a care home as a last resort, so you have to allow the at-home care package to fail.

Have you looked into the cost of employing private carers? It is very expensive so probably not an option longer term.

Request the forms for Attendance Allowance asap. If you return the forms within six weeks they will backdate the payments to the day you requested them. It will supply extra money to pay for care at home.

NigglyPig · 10/08/2026 18:04

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 14:15

Private carers can be arranged via Adult Social care. If he has care needs and under the financial threshold, he might only have to make a contribution. The carers can, if he needs it, do an evening call which can get him ready for bed. They won't take him out if that's what you mean about the door.

I didn't know that. He is capable of getting himself dressed/undressed. He will need help showering at home only because it's an over-bath shower.

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NigglyPig · 10/08/2026 18:33

catofglory thank you. I will start the ball rolling for AA tomorrow.

OP posts:
LoafofSellotape · 10/08/2026 18:35

NigglyPig · 10/08/2026 13:55

Thank you everybody. I forgot to check this and started another thread in frustration.
I'm on my phone but will try and answer you all in turn.

7planeteclipse AA is on my to-do list. The shopping, cleaning etc can be handled privately. If the carers aren’t enough/after the six weeks I am prepared to hire private carers.
His needs were not assessed to be enough to require care home funding.

ForDreamyMintHare I am his only relative and I live overseas. I’ve been here almost three weeks and have to leave at the end of next week. I am making sure everyone I talk to knows that. I’m not averse to paying for private carers, I just want to get him out of there, he’s going crazy.

LoafofSellotape I didn’t realise that about meals on wheels - thank you.

In the 18 days he’s been in there they’ve showered him once.
When he was first released from hospital carers were arranged, that was it. No provision for him being able to get out of his front of back door, or get to bed. I thought they had provided a bed downstairs but only found out a couple of days ago that it was provided by a bed. He was sent home unable to even go to bed. He slept on the couch at first.

Age UK do a settle in service when my mum has been discharged in the past. They brought her home, settled her in bed and made her some food etc. they also recommended a visit once a week for 6 weeks. The hospital discharge team you're working with sounds really poor OP

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 19:28

NigglyPig · 10/08/2026 18:33

catofglory thank you. I will start the ball rolling for AA tomorrow.

He needs to have needed care / support for 6 months.

LoafofSellotape · 10/08/2026 20:11

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 19:28

He needs to have needed care / support for 6 months.

Are you sure about that? My mother got it and she lives on her own

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 20:21

LoafofSellotape · 10/08/2026 20:11

Are you sure about that? My mother got it and she lives on her own

You dont have to actually have care to qualify but the condition(s) you are claiming for must be 6 months old.

Nursemumma92 · 10/08/2026 21:01

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 20:21

You dont have to actually have care to qualify but the condition(s) you are claiming for must be 6 months old.

Yes this is true unless they have been diagnosed with a terminal illness then it can start immediately providing they need support.

unsync · 10/08/2026 21:53

Cheese55 · 10/08/2026 19:28

He needs to have needed care / support for 6 months.

I would assume that a stroke will be classified as a life limiting condition at the age that the OP's father is as he is unlikely to make a full recovery and the chances of a recurrence are likely high.

@NigglyPig If you call for the AA forms, that gets the ball rolling and if approved, it will be backdated to the date you call. You can then download them here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/attendance-allowance-claim-form and fill the downloaded one in, print it out and return. As you need to return home soon, this should save you time.

Have you contacted the Stroke Association? They may be able to offer help/support. https://www.stroke.org.uk/stroke/support

Attendance Allowance claim form

Use the Attendance Allowance claim form to apply for financial help for your personal care if you're disabled and State Pension age or older.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/attendance-allowance-claim-form

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 10:26

An OT met us at his house on Tuesday. She measured doorways, staircase width, bed height etc and made a few recommendations, none of which they will be taking responsibility for or helping with. Everything he needs is on us to organize. I have made it clear that I will be with him 24/7 until I leave and I am prepared to organize private care and meals for while I'm gone.
Would I be out of line to say to staff today to get him ready to go home tomorrow? He will need meds to go home with. He's still only had one shower (in 3 weeks) and doesn't have anything going on except maybe one physio visit a week. I can't see the point in him being there and he's hating it in there.

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LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 11:56

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 10:26

An OT met us at his house on Tuesday. She measured doorways, staircase width, bed height etc and made a few recommendations, none of which they will be taking responsibility for or helping with. Everything he needs is on us to organize. I have made it clear that I will be with him 24/7 until I leave and I am prepared to organize private care and meals for while I'm gone.
Would I be out of line to say to staff today to get him ready to go home tomorrow? He will need meds to go home with. He's still only had one shower (in 3 weeks) and doesn't have anything going on except maybe one physio visit a week. I can't see the point in him being there and he's hating it in there.

I don't understand this at all, things like bed raisers or indeed a hospital bed and any other equipment should be supplied before discharge.

I would absolutely NOT move in to over see any of this as you'll never get away. I speak from experience.

LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 11:59

Sadly I think one shower a month is normal in hospital but he will have had a thorough top to toe wash every day.

Does he need a higher toilet or bath seat? All that should be ordered by the OT.

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 13:08

I asked if they would be helping with bed or anything else and was told no. My stepdad had a stroke years ago and everything was put in place before he got home. I don’t understand it.
I wont be staying at his indefinitely. I live overseas and have to go home next Thursday but will be back next month. I will pay for private carers and my aim is to find him somewhere more suitable to live asap.

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LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 13:57

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 13:08

I asked if they would be helping with bed or anything else and was told no. My stepdad had a stroke years ago and everything was put in place before he got home. I don’t understand it.
I wont be staying at his indefinitely. I live overseas and have to go home next Thursday but will be back next month. I will pay for private carers and my aim is to find him somewhere more suitable to live asap.

Have you contacted adult social services ,they should be able to give you info. I have to say the hospital were desperate to discharge my mum and she's been told now she cannot live independently as it wouldn't be safe ,I really had to be firm about it to them.

BigSkies2022 · 13/08/2026 16:01

Time for residential care? How will he manage at home alone? Even if carers come 4 times a day, their visits can’t achieve much beyond the minimum level of practical care and won’t provide a social life or the opportunity to get out of his home. You need to get a social worker to assess him, and then take his case to a panel to decide if he is eligible for residential care placement. It’s not a quick process.

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 16:15

He was assessed recently and does not qualify for any residential care home funding. I will be looking for sheltered accommodation for him so he'll have his own place, but fully accessible and with wardens on site.
He has an amazing network of friends who will help him with the social side of things. I am really only looking for carers to administer his meds properly and give him ready-prepared food

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LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 17:22

NigglyPig · 13/08/2026 16:15

He was assessed recently and does not qualify for any residential care home funding. I will be looking for sheltered accommodation for him so he'll have his own place, but fully accessible and with wardens on site.
He has an amazing network of friends who will help him with the social side of things. I am really only looking for carers to administer his meds properly and give him ready-prepared food

A warden will just check twice a day, if you're going to have carers there's not much point him moving as they will check him. He could also have fall alarms etc.

He wouldn't go straight I to a home but he could go to a rehab centre where he can be properly assessed, get SS involved. Someone's not doing their job properly here.

LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 17:24

I've just yre read your OP and I can see his house isn't suitable now with steps etc ,hence you wanting to move him.

LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 17:27

Sorry OP, I see he was already at a rehab - I'm reading 2 threads at once and getting confused! You MUST get adult SS involved and do not bring him home yet , just keep saying it's not safe. This is all sorts of wrong !

DemonsandMosquitoes · 13/08/2026 17:32

This has the potential to go tits up in a big way.
Think long term. I would almost be officially refusing to set up/organise any help or adaptations at home in order for them to rethink this. Your dads needs now outweigh his wants.
Ex district nurse having seen this play out badly many times over many years.

LoafofSellotape · 13/08/2026 19:11

Once he's left the hospital it will be so hard to get support in place. SS needs to go to the rehab and assess him ,there will be a long wait otherwise,7 weeks plus where my mum lives.