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Elderly parents

Convincing Mum to accept a weekly care visit

70 replies

Flyhigher · 04/11/2024 21:47

My 81 year old mother lives alone 60 miles away from her daughters.

I have found a carer that can visit.

It's just £16 an hour.

She says she doesn't need it yet.

I need help convincing her.

What arguments can I use with her?

Hit me

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Happyinarcon · 07/11/2024 05:57

BlueLegume · 05/11/2024 10:02

@Onlyvisiting great point. I know where our mother lives there is absolutely loads to do both at her local church and at various community places. I took Mum to a couple last year where she knew people and also there were various activities in the hope she might get a routine and be like some of my aunts who are so busy it’s amazing. One aunt has a weekly ‘timetable’. Aunt does something every day, sometimes morning and afternoon. Little simple chair exercise classes, flower arranging, art classes, a coffee meet up after a mid week church service. All similar aged people and it shows that she does it because she always has a cheery story to tell us. Our mother just point blank refused to engage when I took her and what became evident at one session at her church was that over the years she has clearly had some fall outs with people. In spite of that they were lovely and welcoming with a ‘Oh good to see you out and about again’. She literally turned her head away from two people and stared into the middle distance like a petulant teenager. I am watching this thread in the hope someone has a suggestion as I am willing to try anything. Oh and I got right involved in one art session - just craft stuff not drawing etc so anyone could join in. Mum wouldn’t even try saying ‘I’ve better things to do than gluing scraps of paper on a box’. Well actually Mum you don’t so anything. Bonkers.

The other thing that annoys me is when they refuse to socialise with peers because they are convinced they’re all a bunch of old fogies. I said to my mother that if she was so switched on and cognitively fit as a fiddle, then it would be nice to befriend some of the people who were lonely or struggling. Obviously this won’t happen because my mother still thinks there’s a cool girl gang that she should be a member of.
Frankly I’d be happy enough to go into an aged care home now and have someone bring me cups of tea and wheel me around the garden periodically.

Rainbowqueeen · 07/11/2024 06:00

Say its just a trial for 2 months

Spin a sob story about the carer - how she is down on her luck and really needs the job

BlueLegume · 07/11/2024 06:08

@Happyinarcon agree with you. My mother struggled from her 50s to be part of her own peer group age wise. She has always struggled with aging generally and if anything it has helped me to embrace my older face, body and abilities with some grace. That said I still think my mother has a personality disorder. She has always known better than everyone else despite having little life experience. She has always judged people based on looks, status and how much money they have. It baffled me that she would talk about someone and say ‘oh it’s alright for x and y they have £500k in the bank’. She did this about the husband of one friend for years and years. The amount never changed. When he died there was no money. So either he spent it on living in later years OR as I suspect he said it in passing years ago and she fixated on the comment, which is very her. Her fixations have caused lots of trouble. My cousin has 4 kids and has worked really hard in life. She was fortunate to be able to pay for them to be privately educated. In passing at a family gathering my cousin mentioned that one of her children was not very academic. That was all she said. Mum then proceeded to tell everyone that this kid wasn’t privately educated and went to the local comp because ‘cousins name says it’s not worth the money’. This was absolutely made up. Lovely cousin just chose an independent school more suited to said child’s needs. Utterly ridiculous fantasy from my mother.

PortiasBiscuit · 07/11/2024 06:14

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nokidshere · 04/11/2024 21:52

If she says she doesn't need it, What specifically has led you to believe she does?

Just don't push it would be my advice. Sometimes the more you try to persuade an elderly person they need something the more they dig their heels in and refuse

Iagreewithmrsdevere · 07/11/2024 06:20

Hello - For my 90+ DM I took the opportunity after she had a tummy upset to say that I had just found out about a local lady (In fact a private carer I had my eye on for ages) who could come and make sure she had a thorough shower and hair wash after being ill. And that went so well that from then on, as I had hoped Mum decided all by herself Wink to have her come round twice a week- maybe you could find a way in like that?

countrygirl99 · 07/11/2024 06:24

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Wow. What a bitchy comment. You must feel very superior.

BlueLegume · 07/11/2024 07:03

@PortiasBiscuit we try support each other on here. Your comment was unnecessary.

Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 17:22

Rainbowqueeen · 07/11/2024 06:00

Say its just a trial for 2 months

Spin a sob story about the carer - how she is down on her luck and really needs the job

Thats a good idea.

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Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 17:25

BlueLegume · 07/11/2024 05:37

@Flyhigher any update on any advice being helpful?

Lots of good ideas.
It's hard to be patient enough. They push your limits don't they?

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Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 17:26

Iagreewithmrsdevere · 07/11/2024 06:20

Hello - For my 90+ DM I took the opportunity after she had a tummy upset to say that I had just found out about a local lady (In fact a private carer I had my eye on for ages) who could come and make sure she had a thorough shower and hair wash after being ill. And that went so well that from then on, as I had hoped Mum decided all by herself Wink to have her come round twice a week- maybe you could find a way in like that?

My mums quite physically able at the minute.
It's more mental stimulation she needs.
She is keen. Just wants a clear idea of what they will do with her.

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Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 17:32

countrygirl99 · 06/11/2024 20:40

Exactly @StiffyByngsDogBartholomew my first thought reading that was "Chat GPT has ckearky never met my mother or FIL"

Yes. Sigh.
Very funny response btw.

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Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 17:35

BlueLegume · 05/11/2024 10:02

@Onlyvisiting great point. I know where our mother lives there is absolutely loads to do both at her local church and at various community places. I took Mum to a couple last year where she knew people and also there were various activities in the hope she might get a routine and be like some of my aunts who are so busy it’s amazing. One aunt has a weekly ‘timetable’. Aunt does something every day, sometimes morning and afternoon. Little simple chair exercise classes, flower arranging, art classes, a coffee meet up after a mid week church service. All similar aged people and it shows that she does it because she always has a cheery story to tell us. Our mother just point blank refused to engage when I took her and what became evident at one session at her church was that over the years she has clearly had some fall outs with people. In spite of that they were lovely and welcoming with a ‘Oh good to see you out and about again’. She literally turned her head away from two people and stared into the middle distance like a petulant teenager. I am watching this thread in the hope someone has a suggestion as I am willing to try anything. Oh and I got right involved in one art session - just craft stuff not drawing etc so anyone could join in. Mum wouldn’t even try saying ‘I’ve better things to do than gluing scraps of paper on a box’. Well actually Mum you don’t so anything. Bonkers.

She won't go to places either. I could try the church again. But she swore off catholic priests. After all the scandals.

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saraclara · 07/11/2024 17:40

Happyinarcon · 07/11/2024 05:57

The other thing that annoys me is when they refuse to socialise with peers because they are convinced they’re all a bunch of old fogies. I said to my mother that if she was so switched on and cognitively fit as a fiddle, then it would be nice to befriend some of the people who were lonely or struggling. Obviously this won’t happen because my mother still thinks there’s a cool girl gang that she should be a member of.
Frankly I’d be happy enough to go into an aged care home now and have someone bring me cups of tea and wheel me around the garden periodically.

Frankly I’d be happy enough to go into an aged care home now and have someone bring me cups of tea and wheel me around the garden periodically

No you wouldn't. Not if you had no choice, had your freedoms removed, couldn't choose and cook your own meals... and a list of other things that you don't even think about and that mean independence.

I'm 69, and I see this situation getting real on my future. My friendship group is of a wide age range. I would never choose to only socialise with people of my age, and as I get older I'm sure my age group will get even more homogenous, and there's no reason for me to have anything in common with most of them. And I probably wouldn't have chosen to be friends with most, if we hadn't been thrown together.

My mum, a very bright, intelligent and previously active woman, had to go into a care home due to her stroke, which didn't affect her mentally at all. There wasn't a single person in there who she could engage with and have a good conversation. The activities were basically bingo or infant school type crafts.
I have never felt more sorry for her than I did when I was visiting and they were trying to get her to join in bingo. A game she's have died rather than play before her stroke. In a plaintive voice that I'd never heard before, she said to the carer "one day, couldn't we just have a quiz?"

Sunholidays · 07/11/2024 17:44

One of the things that helped with my mother was that my Dsis (who was visiting them twice a week as she lives closest to them) was likely to get busier at work and we wanted to have someone local that we could call when needed. This lady came recommended and it would be sensible to get to know her and she us, we told her.

My mum accepted although I had to be there the first couple of times as she was nervous.

The carer now attends 3 times a day and we couldn’t do without her.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 07/11/2024 17:55

DFIL used to do crosswords, until he couldn't see to read (also had dementia). One carer latched onto this. She read out the clues, he gave the answers, she wrote them down. Success.

Flowerydresses · 07/11/2024 18:27

In our experience it’s better never to mention the ‘carer’ word. A driver, a person to help around the house, someone who needs a little job doing housework, anything but the care word.

Flyhigher · 07/11/2024 19:15

Definitely never say carer.

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RememberDecember · 09/11/2024 19:58

Flowerydresses · 07/11/2024 18:27

In our experience it’s better never to mention the ‘carer’ word. A driver, a person to help around the house, someone who needs a little job doing housework, anything but the care word.

I think this is v true, sadly I didn’t realise this sooner.

JC03745 · 09/11/2024 20:18

Or as someone else suggested, turning it around:

'My 'friend' Sandra is having a tricky time, and SHE would enjoy YOUR company mum/is looking for a few hours of cleaning work to help HER out/could do with getting out of the house a bit more' etc.

I agree with another poster about it being so difficult when people don't realise their own age. My nan could still play piano well into her late 90's. Knew all the old classics, war tunes etc. Multiple times we offered to take her to local community places to play. She refused, as didn't want to be around such old people!

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