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Elderly parents

So bloody exhausted waiting for someone to die 3

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StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 26/03/2024 10:46

Carrying on from our first two threads..
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/elderly_parents/4967638-so-bloody-exhausted-waiting-for-someone-to-die-2

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GoldenSpraint · 14/10/2024 16:03

PermanentTemporary · 14/10/2024 14:25

@Goldenspraint I forget, do you have POA? Whetger you do or not, you absolutely can ring the surgery and, frankly, ask what the bloody hell they think they're doing. I am very pro vaccination but I also accept that it's not an enjoyable process and that most people feel a bit rough when it's done. They would be putting an elderly lady through an unpleasant process to prolong a very poor quality of life and that is NOT OK.

Depends what they're thinking about. Certainly in the past, a surgery's vaccination target was met if the patient was offered a vaccination but declined. They don't have to actually get needle in arm to be paid.

I did have a candid chat with the doctor today who came out to do bloods and get a better picture as just in case meds had been recommended, and will be prescribed.

She said that Mum could need them soon or it could be in six months, but I feel no one is expecting her to be here much longer than that.

I said I hoped something (like a stroke or heart attack) would happen sooner because now she's just lying in bed her quality of life is so poor and who would want their loved one still be that way long term.

I also asked about antibiotics, and doctor said they would be prescribed to alleviate pain and discomfort in the case of an infection, but if they weren't working they would be discontinued and not tried again.

I do have POA, and a very strict care plan is in place so she remains at home.

Just hoping for a sudden end in her sleep or something, and soon.

Tracker1234 · 14/10/2024 16:28

Golden - I went through this. Mum was ready to go. I didnt want her carted off to hospital to remain there until death. She was in a care home and she wasnt in pain in the end. No active management of any medical issues had alredy been agreed by myself and the surgery.

She wasnt interested in food and no one was forcing her. She just passed away after 5 days. I wasnt there although I did go to see her 90 minutes after her passing. It was OK in the end. One of the carers was with her.

PatchworkOwl · 14/10/2024 19:20

TheShellBeach · 14/10/2024 14:15

Then she may not be terribly close to death yet.

It's when people lose the ability to drink and swallow that they die, on the whole.

People generally only last about four days once they've completely stopped drinking, although some seem to linger on for just over a week.

I thought I'd replied, but I can't see it. Thanks for your reply, that's helpful. It's very hard, seeing her like this.

AgitatedGoose · 14/10/2024 20:39

@GoldenSpraint If you have POA for your Mum I’d consider refusing to allow the surgery to administer the Flu and Covid vaccines. I really don’t know why doctors insist on giving them to anyone who has zero quality of life. If I was in this position I’d resent being given any treatment which would potentially prolong my life.

Pinkchicken75 · 15/10/2024 16:43

can I ask for POA ,does it matter how long you take to submit it online yourself from when they have signed it as I forgot to submit it😩

AgitatedGoose · 15/10/2024 18:18

@Pinkchicken75 I’m not sure. It might be best to phone the Office of Public Guardian to check.

CharlotteBog · 15/10/2024 21:53

Got a call today that my MIL is unable to drink any more :-(

CharlotteBog · 15/10/2024 22:00

I mean swallow. She hasn't been drinking more than a few sips for what seems like weeks now.

RememberDecember · 15/10/2024 22:27

Pinkchicken75 · 15/10/2024 16:43

can I ask for POA ,does it matter how long you take to submit it online yourself from when they have signed it as I forgot to submit it😩

I think it is something like 40 days from when you have paid online, think you can check on the website.

NefretForth · 16/10/2024 06:33

You can submit it after the 40 days, it’s just that they refund the online payment after that and you have to pay again when you submit it.

Pinkchicken75 · 16/10/2024 15:25

@RememberDecember so you only have 40 days from when they ,ie parents sign it to submit it?

GoldenSpraint · 16/10/2024 18:39

CharlotteBog · 15/10/2024 22:00

I mean swallow. She hasn't been drinking more than a few sips for what seems like weeks now.

Sending hugs 🫂

RememberDecember · 17/10/2024 06:57

@Pinkchicken75 i think it is around 40 days to submit from when you have made payment on the website. If you just have a signed copy and haven’t made payment yet then I don’t think that applies.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 17/10/2024 11:46

BlueLegume · 11/10/2024 06:15

@SinisterBumFacedCat you must not call yourself evil. You are compassionate- that is the word you need to use. We are facing a generation who have been kept alive by medication for absolutely every ailment- nothing has been made better they have just been kept alive and when they deteriorate another organisation aside from the pharmaceutical companies benefit - the care system. It is a scandalous situation. Decades ago these elderly would have died dignified deaths at the point their bodies had had enough. I am so surprised at my passion for Dame Esther Rantzens campaign for a choice of choosing a dignified death but listening to stories on here and my own experience just makes me look realistically at where we are. I am aware before anyone flames me that the dignity in dying companies are also monetising the situation.

That's a really interesting point. I read your post a couple of days ago, and i haven't forgotten it.

It's something I'm going to bear in mind for the future.

I remember reading that pneumonia used to be called something like 'the old man's friend', which I've only recently truly understood.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 17/10/2024 12:07

TheShellBeach · 14/10/2024 14:12

Women contemplating having their elderly parents to live with them need to read this thread. It's a prison they have no idea they're going to

Yes. And the daughters end up by resenting the whole situation, not surprisingly.

My fil has dementia, and my husband has 2 brothers and a sister.

Guess which offspring my mil tells everyone she encounters will 'deal with it'??
My husband always offers to do x,y, z, but they always get rebuffed cos daughter 'knows what to do'.

The youngest brother does fuck all. There's always a bullshit reason why he can't help.

I'm not sure my husband really noticed that his younger brother wasn't pulling his weight. I generally keep my nose out of the sibling chat.

My husband has also now also noticed that mil is running her daughter ragged, but super special youngest son always gets a pass.

My husband and his brothers need to get tougher with their mum, and help their bloody sister before she has a nervous breakdown.

CharlotteBog · 22/10/2024 04:42

My MIL has passed away. Her husband was with her and I arrived a few minutes later. I am sitting with her while he talks to the nurses. I have spent much of the past 4 days by her side.

beetr00 · 22/10/2024 04:50

@CharlotteBog thinking of you and your family 💐

TheShellBeach · 22/10/2024 08:14

@CharlotteBog I'm so sorry. I'm glad she's finally at peace after everything and glad that you're with her.

PatchworkOwl · 22/10/2024 08:19

@CharlotteBog Thinking of you

funnelfan · 22/10/2024 09:16

Flowers @CharlotteBog

BlueLegume · 22/10/2024 09:22

@CharlotteBog sorry to hear your news but hopefully in the long run you can see that she is now peacefully at rest.

AgitatedGoose · 22/10/2024 12:29

@CharlotteBog So sorry to hear your news but glad you were able to be with your MIL until the end and that she’s finally at peace. Look after yourself in the weeks and months ahead.

Tara336 · 22/10/2024 12:51

@CharlotteBog so sorry x

CharlotteBog · 23/10/2024 12:21

Thank you. Grief and relief is a strange feeling, but you just have to go with it really.

Canyoudigityesyoucan · 23/10/2024 15:28

Joining this topic. Sat with my 92 year old Nanna who is on end of life care. She’s being so well booked after by staff here at the hospice. But it’s so inhumane sitting and watching and waiting for her to pass.

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