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Elderly parents

Feeling very alone and angry and like a bad person

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stressedout24 · 15/02/2024 14:36

I really want to know if I am the only one who has felt this way and the guilt and shame that results. As the title says and long story short my Dad has been in ill health for sometime and has taken a further decline since the New Year. Add into the mix a selfish sister who seems to have more empathy for strangers than her own family.

He is now 87 and is living with me after my Mum died in 2016. He was a long time heavy smoker until just before the first Covid lockdown when much to my surprise he quit cold turkey. Literally after decades of being sneaky about the habit and how much he smoked and half hearted attempts at quitting. For the last few years he has had little motivation for anything, his world has shrunk for many reasons and his temperament has got nastier. He has sat in his chair despite me urging him to take a little walk and stretch his legs and that he has to use it or lose it in terms of his mobility. He has ignored this advice and is now very unsteady on his feet as his muscles have wasted away due to old age and lack of use.

i feel in the last few weeks his mobility has got even worse and I feel so incredibly angry that due to not looking after himself with his smoking and him not making the effort to get moving I am now put in the position of caring for him. For example he had a hip replacement about a decade ago and couldn’t be bothered to do the exercises he was supposed to do afterwards.

Everything had come to a head this morning as the Doctor referred him to a Physio at the start of the year who came and visited today. Suddenly he can hear what she is saying to him and is very compliant and is promising to do exercises. The total opposite to anything I ask him to do, day to day he can’t hear me supposedly and anything I ask him to do and I mean simple tasks like have a wash is ignored or he has a tantrum and stops speaking to me.

Added to this I have a sister who is useless and selfish, always has been so goodness knows why I am always left surprised and disappointed by her. I knew it would end in tears but I felt quite emotional after the Physio’s visit and called her in floods of tears because she knows what he is like and part of me thinks why should I shoulder the daily burden by myself. I was in tears and in full flow and was met with indifference and silence at the other end of the phone which is nothing new so I am kicking myself about why did I expect a different result?

i told her I felt I was going fucking insane only to be told to mind my language as I was on loudspeaker and my niece who is 13 was with her. That was her response when I am feeling alone and distressed at the decline of our Dad and my fear about how bad are things are going to get and how long this situation could go on for? After this I put the phone down on her, I know she won’t apologise or be in touch because she has never apologised about anything.

I just want to know if anyone has any thoughts on how to deal with useless relatives at a time like this and how to control the anger that I feel at having to pick up the pieces because my Dad did not take care of himself all through his life. I have a small family and feel disillusioned with each of them but feel great guilt at the terrible thoughts in my head about why me? Why am I feeling so alone and in this situation? He wasn’t an abusive Father just not involved or particularly loving although growing up I tended to get on better with him than my sister did.

I know the old saying about if you think everybody around you is the arsehole it is you but I am so angry that my sister gets to life her life and not give a damn. Plus I am having to pause my life as Dads health declines because he has abused his body since I can remember and not paid attention after previous health scares or when given medical advice. I’m just feeling so angry and alone in a situation I did not cause or ask for.

OP posts:
TwattingDog · 15/02/2024 14:49

Sounds like it's time to find your Dad a new place to live. This arrangement isn't good for either of you.

You don't have to live like this.

Tiggermom · 15/02/2024 14:57

Drop him off at DSis’ with a suitcase

Tiggermom · 15/02/2024 14:59

Also DF was like this with his GP, chiropractor - they thought he was a charming old gent - could not have been further from the truth!

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/02/2024 15:13

Sounds grim. Can you ask Social Services to (re)assess his needs? It might shed light on his abilities / lack of them and also give you a chance to explain the impact on you. Know your boundaries - be clear about what you can/will / can't /won't do for him. Do you receive Carer's Allowance (for looking after him)? Is he eligible for a council or private carer?

KnittingKnewbie · 15/02/2024 15:17

Your sister is entitled to make her own decisions. You thinking she should look after your dad doesn't mean she has to. You should do as much as you can/are willing to do. That's what she's doing.
The arrangement isn't working for you. So change it. You're obviously having a hard time and I totally understand that.
But you don't have to put your life on hold to look after your dad - that's a choice YOU are making.

I don't mean to be harsh. Tone is v difficult in a written message.

Beingwithagroupogblokes · 15/02/2024 15:21

I can totally empathise with your situation with your Dad. My sister is totally supportive thank god so I really feel for you that she's being so unsupportive and uncaring. Definitely speak to his GP about getting social care involved in taking some of the burden from you x

MyHuckleberryFriends · 15/02/2024 15:35

Hi @stressedout24 I feel for you, I’m in the same situation but have both parents in their 90s. I have no help whatsoever. My brother is the golden child despite doing absolutely nothing apart from visiting once every 2 months. He lives within a half an hour’s drive so distance isn’t an excuse either.
It’s all very well for others to tell you to phone social services but I know, due to lack of funds, there is very little help available. Also, it’s different getting elderly parents to accept help. We have all the dynamics of our childhood and family and the tantrums if we go against our parents wishes. You can’t suddenly set your boundaries and watch them struggle and suffer. The level of care we give our parents creeps up insidiously as they deteriorate with advancing age.
I can’t really say anything to help you OP except to say I understand and there is no simple solution. Big hugs

Bargello · 15/02/2024 15:41

Agree with the others that this is a choice you are making to have you dad live with you. You do not have to pause your life, there are other options for you dads care. Your sister is making different choices and that’s ok too.

this situation is only going to deteriorate, get social services in NOW to do a full assessment and be honest that you’ve had enough and are at breaking point.

Sunnnybunny72 · 15/02/2024 15:53

But the situation is of your making. You took him in. I would never do that in a million years. Ever. Always think long term. The fact he was actually willing to move in with you indefinitely in the prime of your life is a big red flag from the start. Would you do that to your adult DC?
Your sister chose not to go down that road. Very wise.
Your anger is misplaced.

Harvestfestivalknickers · 15/02/2024 16:04

I agree with others. Your sister has made her choice not to get involved in your Dad's care. Your Dad has made the choice not to exercise and listen to medical advice.
You are trying to pick up the pieces from other people's choices. Why? No one is grateful to you tying yourself up in knots.
You can have a choice too

BetteDavisChin · 15/02/2024 16:08

I sympathise with you. My DF is 89 this year, and has lived with us since 2007.

I agree with a poster above who says to call in social services. Be brutally honest about the toll this is taking on your mental and physical health. Tell them that you are at breaking point and cannot cope a minute longer without help.

Have you looked at the Carers' Association website? I believe they have a support service which might be able to offer advice, or even just a sympathetic ear.

I hope things get better for you x

MyFirstLittlePony · 15/02/2024 16:13

Do you want to continue to be your dad’s carer?

could you end this arrangement?

It is very hard for you

I understand your anger but in a way it misdirected…. My dad is the same age and has always looked after himself and lived sensible, exercised etc yet at 88 he is now frail and unsteady in his legs and I always worry about him randomly falling over… it’s just the age, not a self inflicted thing

bring his care is a big ask and do you really want to do this on your own?

BenjaminBunnyRabbit · 15/02/2024 22:47

I would say it's quite common to feel like this especially if you had a parent who was less than engaged when you were a child and hasn't taken care of themselves very well. You're not wrong or bad to feel like this.

You need to share the load. If your sister won't help then it will have to be carers or cleaners.

How are the finances? Is there money in the bank?

The fact that your Dad lives with you does make it more difficult.

JavaLavas · 16/02/2024 12:44

I know the old saying about if you think everybody around you is the arsehole it is you

Actually OP, I would counter that by saying if one person in a family is dysfunctional or a narcissist - chances are there are more dysfunctional members. Some families are choc a block with them.

It can be an awful lot to bear 🌹

My only advice OP would be to distance and protect yourself as much as you can. Practically, of course. Maybe even some therapy for emotional support if you think you need it and can afford it🌹

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/02/2024 10:04

It’s very hard when you’ve had an elderly parent move in with you and their care becomes very difficult/stressful, because social services are less likely to act when they know the person has help on the spot.

However you will need to stress to them that you cannot do it any more.

I do sympathise, because we took in FiL with dementia, utterly blithely clueless about what dementia could - and all too often does - mean in practice.

I would suggest talking to Age U.K. as a first measure.

funnelfan · 19/02/2024 11:17

Lots of us feel that way. Come and join the other bad daughters in the cockroach cafe. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/elderly_parents/5008671-cockroach-cafe-spring-2024

rickyrickygrimes · 20/02/2024 09:28

I am now put in the position of caring for him

I’m just feeling so angry and alone in a situation I did not cause or ask for.

the anger that I feel at having to pick up the pieces because my Dad did not take care of himself all through his life

I am having to pause my life as Dads health declines

Who has put you in this position other than yourself? Is anyone holding a gun to your head to force you to do this? You chose to move him in after your mother died and you have chosen to continue to have him live with you. It sounds like you are driven by guilt to do this. Nonetheless, it's what you are choosing to do.

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh. You do have agency in this OP. It doesn't sound like your sister is forcing you to take on all the care for your father, though she is making it clear that she does not want to take it on or have you phone her up and rant about about a situation that is of your own making. What do you want her to say?

SeriouslyAgain · 20/02/2024 10:49

I'm so sorry it's all so hard. You'll be exhausted by it all as well as upset, hurt and angry, and exhaustion makes decision-making so difficult. But you need to find a way of making your life easier... Would carers help? Or start talking about a care home? Even if only for 2 or 3 weeks respite care to give you time to think. Or be honest with your sister and ask for a genuine discussion about what she, or both of you together can do to ensure you don't break down completely.
I know that any of those things is yet more effort on your part but because you've taken on the responsibility, the reality is that everyone will just now leave you to it unless you change things.
If it's any small consolation, you are absolutely not alone and there are many people on this board who can give a wealth of advice and support.

SheepAndSword · 20/02/2024 18:07

Honestly, you're not alone - sometimes dealing with an elderly parent is like banging your head against a brick wall.

Current arrangement isn't working, can he go into a care home?

upanddowns · 21/02/2024 21:52

You're definitely not alone. I'm an only child and looking after my elderly mum is driving me insane. I have no choice, there's no one else, but I don't like her as a person, she's very narrow minded, incredibly nosy about my life and does not understand my children. She always favoured one and still does. She wants me to visit more often, but when I'm there I'm counting down the minutes until I can leave because she drives me mad. I know I sound like a stupid selfish teenager (I'm in my fifties fgs!) but I can't help how I feel. I don't show it, she has no idea, thinks we're the best of friends. She herself adored her parents, told me not long ago that she cried when she got married and had to move out of her parents' home. She still refers to them as mummy and daddy. Just about everything she says or does drives me mad. She also is losing her mobility but won't do anything about it, then complains about her weak legs. She has a gym where she lives and can afford to attend, the person there has said she should go and do some strengthening exercises, but she doesn't. It's ultimately her choice, but it's like she doesn't want to help herself. When my dad died she handed in her driving licence because she didn't want to drive anymore, but now I have to take her everywhere, and I'm running a car I can't really afford to run and would get rid of if it wasn't for her. Occasionally if we're driving to an appointment further away she'll give me petrol money, but it's the tax, insurance and all the little journeys back and forth as well.

Rant over ... I just despair at the thought of years and years ahead of me of sitting there counting down the minutes until I can go home.

JavaLavas · 21/02/2024 22:26

I’m only guessing here … @upanddowns but is she quite a spoilt person? Are you taking over where her husband spoilt her who took over from where her parents spoilt her? (armchair psychologist). She won’t help herself if she expects and gets others to do the heavy lifting for her.

upanddowns · 21/02/2024 22:34

JavaLavas · 21/02/2024 22:26

I’m only guessing here … @upanddowns but is she quite a spoilt person? Are you taking over where her husband spoilt her who took over from where her parents spoilt her? (armchair psychologist). She won’t help herself if she expects and gets others to do the heavy lifting for her.

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I think this could be the case. I can't say no to her though, like I said there's no one else to do the running around. I also have to sort out her verrucas (no idea how she got them! but she's had them for many many years apparently), although a chiropodist comes once a month they need treating regularly so she can get rid of them. I do her online shopping because, although she's capable of watching crap on YouTube and Facebook, for some reason she won't do online shopping, I have to order cat food, groceries, books, clothes, whatever she needs. I listen to her classic fm all the time I'm there but can't comment on music I like because that's all "just noise". I'm told my hair needs cutting, I don't dress warm enough (it's stiflingly hot at hers.. and smells), she used to tell me I'd put on weight but I actually managed to tell her how hurtful that was. I just don't like her very much and things she's done in the past have hurt me and I can't move on.

upanddowns · 21/02/2024 22:45

I'm especially angry today because tomorrow I've got to take her to a hospital appointment miles away and I'm an extremely anxious driver, so not only will I not sleep tonight, but I'll have to listen to her inane chatter all the way there and back instead of listening to music which calms me.

upanddowns · 21/02/2024 23:34

I'm sorry for taking over the thread. I was going to start one myself this evening and then saw yours. It's so difficult isn't it?

MereDintofPandiculation · 22/02/2024 09:55

upanddowns · 21/02/2024 22:45

I'm especially angry today because tomorrow I've got to take her to a hospital appointment miles away and I'm an extremely anxious driver, so not only will I not sleep tonight, but I'll have to listen to her inane chatter all the way there and back instead of listening to music which calms me.

Just put the music on regardless. If she wants it off, say it helps you concentrate on the road.

I find crochet helps me not to count the minutes at my father’s.