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Elderly parents

So bloody exhausted waiting for someone to die...

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Poochypaws · 07/08/2023 13:35

Nobody tells you how utterly draining, exhausting, depressing it is waiting for someone to die when the death has been 'expected' for years. Got told 4 years ago person might die as soon as 6 months but might be lucky and have a couple of years. Ok. Spent the next year spending every possible minute with them. Watched all their favourite movies with them. Listened to their favourite songs with them. Talked about loved ones and memories. Took them for lots of nice walks/outings. Basically put my own life on hold and compromised my own health to give them a nice 'ending'.

Except they didn't fucking die did they. So much for doctors predictions.

At first I was glad to have extra time. It felt like a gift. It felt like we had stuck two fingers up to death. As time has gone on though and the person needs everything done for them (EVERYTHING!) but still they linger on.

They go into hospital (about once every couple of months)- carers have to be cancelled, shopping has to be cancelled, perscription deliveries have to be cancelled, constant phone calls from hospital nurses ' can you bring this in, can you collect dirty washing, when are you visiting'

Then they are ready to come out of hospital. Carers have to be found and reinstated and everything else has to be put back in place.

Meanwhile having agreed to go into a carehome (social say person does now need 24 hour a day care) person has now told social they don't want to leave their own home.

Everyone around them (ok not everyone, just those involved) are on their knees with ill health, mental stress from the constant waiting, exhaustion from never knowing what is coming next and still the person keeps hanging on.

On about 30 tablets a day, requires washed, fed, dressed, help to leave house, taken to all appointments, all housework done, all admin done, entertained and you never know from one day to the next when the next fall or hospital visit, dentist emergency, optician emergency, will be. They are not like 'normal' people going to the dentist twice a year. They seem to need to go every month so their appointments are about 10 times those of a normal person. Constant infections, bleeding, bruising, swollen ankles, can't breathe, can't eat, can't sleep and still they go on.

Why god, why! I fear I might die first from the stress.

For those of you who have been asked by your gp or social or a nurse to 'help out with your parent' because they probably don't have long left anyway (ha, bloody ha) Think long and hard. Really long and hard. If fact don't think just turn the other way and run.

The NHS seems hell bent on keeping old sick people with no quality of life alive as long as possible even though the trail of destruction behind them far outweights the benefit of keeping them alive.

I used to see people at funerals and assume they were all sad. Of course people at funerals for young people will be sad. Now I realise for those who have elderly parents who have lingered and lingered and lingered they are not sad at the funerals they are RELIEVED. GLAD. Probably cracking open the bloody champagne in the evening.

For those of you who have never been in this position for years you have NO idea what you are talking about so don't bother commenting. (I had no idea before I did it and would have thought differently)

So tell me who is benefiting from this shitshow.
Old person - nope miserable, ill and poor quality of life
Anyone helping - nope, miserable, ill, poor quality of life
NHS/Social - resources being used HUGE, benefits ??

Finally in last few weeks I have taken a stand and withdrawn support. Literally had to shout at social and hospital nurses who seems to ignore the fact the 'carer' is having a nervous breakdown telling them to 'carry on what they are doing'. NO. NO. NO.

This will force a care home entry which is what is needed. NEVER AGAIN.

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countrygirl99 · 07/09/2023 19:01

My mum's parents both died young and abroad. My dad's parent lived to mid 70s but we were a couple of hours away with no car so rarely saw them.
My FIL mum died quite young after a short illness and his dad died mid 60s in an accident.
MILs parents were at the taking turns to have them for Sunday lunch level of care and sending then teenage DH round to me the lawn. Her dad died after s short illness, mostly in hospital and her mum moved into a sheltered flat wherevshe was very independent until she died suddenly of a heart attack.
So DH did the harder work with his grandparents but kept getting lectured by his dad that "we looked after our parent, you do nothing for us" while being run ragged by his dad.

StrongandNorthern · 07/09/2023 20:23

So sorry.
I totally get it.

moggerhanger · 10/09/2023 11:26

@Squirrelsnut I'm so sorry about your mum. I'm in a vaguely similar situation. My DM has been in a care home for almost 13 years with dementia. For the last 4 or so years her faculties have declined to where she is now - immobile, incontinent, unable to communicate, minimally conscious. But the body just keeps grimly trucking on, despite the brain being long gone. She's survived Covid, aspiration pneumonia, etc. And the lovely carers say things like "She's eaten all her [pureed] lunch today, that's really good!". I want to scream "No it isn't!!" But obviously, I don't, I smile and nod. It's horrible to see her now.

moggerhanger · 10/09/2023 11:46

Poochypaws · 06/09/2023 18:40

Yes all the time. In fact I get the rage when they say it because it means relative is still alive when every call I get I hope it's 'the one' (to say they have gone).

Oh goodness, me too. DM's home says "Hello, it's the care home; your mum's fine, [insert reason for call]". I always want to reply "Is she? Damn."

Ilikeyoursleeves · 10/09/2023 11:55

I've posted a few times on this thread and it's been immensely helpful. Thank you @Poochypaws for starting it.

After what feels like an eternity of being ill with Parkinson's, my dad finally died in the early hours of this morning. I'm feeling all sorts of emotions, not even sure what they are. Relief is there but I can't quite grasp it yet. My body had a complete physical response when they told me he'd died, my legs gave way and I was shaking and crying so much. I think mainly because I've been living with constant adrenaline and being on the edge for days / weeks / months / years, it was like the floodgates opened. It's been 17 years of him and my mum being ill and I can't quite believe it's now over.

I hope the rest of you going through this hellish journey will get a peaceful resolution soon x ❤️

Isthiscorrect · 10/09/2023 12:03

Ilikeyoursleeves · 10/09/2023 11:55

I've posted a few times on this thread and it's been immensely helpful. Thank you @Poochypaws for starting it.

After what feels like an eternity of being ill with Parkinson's, my dad finally died in the early hours of this morning. I'm feeling all sorts of emotions, not even sure what they are. Relief is there but I can't quite grasp it yet. My body had a complete physical response when they told me he'd died, my legs gave way and I was shaking and crying so much. I think mainly because I've been living with constant adrenaline and being on the edge for days / weeks / months / years, it was like the floodgates opened. It's been 17 years of him and my mum being ill and I can't quite believe it's now over.

I hope the rest of you going through this hellish journey will get a peaceful resolution soon x ❤️

@Ilikeyoursleeves
I am so sorry for your loss. Big hugs for you at this time. For your loss, for the life changing times ahead of you, for physical, mental and heart pain.

Poochypaws · 10/09/2023 12:45

Ilikeyoursleeves · 10/09/2023 11:55

I've posted a few times on this thread and it's been immensely helpful. Thank you @Poochypaws for starting it.

After what feels like an eternity of being ill with Parkinson's, my dad finally died in the early hours of this morning. I'm feeling all sorts of emotions, not even sure what they are. Relief is there but I can't quite grasp it yet. My body had a complete physical response when they told me he'd died, my legs gave way and I was shaking and crying so much. I think mainly because I've been living with constant adrenaline and being on the edge for days / weeks / months / years, it was like the floodgates opened. It's been 17 years of him and my mum being ill and I can't quite believe it's now over.

I hope the rest of you going through this hellish journey will get a peaceful resolution soon x ❤️

Be really gentle on yourself. I can imagine you are not going to feel all kinds of emotions from guilt to grief, shock to sadness. You're going to feel glad and then sorry. You are also going to get hit with exhaustion like a ton of bricks. Not sure why grief is so exhausting but it is. Expect very little of yourself. I think I am going to react the same when my mum dies. It is not straight forward at all. You are probably going to suffer the after affects of trauma.

It's just all so awful. You have done your best. You let out all your emotions far away from your dad in a safe place like this forum.

Expect to be all over the place for the coming months till the horror gradually fades.
Big hugs xx

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funnelfan · 10/09/2023 12:50

@Ilikeyoursleeves I’m sorry for your loss, and sending you best wishes for the rebuild of your life. I hope you have lots of support and love.

Limetreee · 10/09/2023 13:06

@Ilikeyoursleeves So sorry for your loss. It’s okay to feel whatever your feeling which is probably a mix of everything. All absolutely normal. Please look after yourself, thinking about you X

Jellycats4life · 10/09/2023 14:21

Sending love, @Ilikeyoursleeves

OLDERME · 10/09/2023 14:49

My condolences.

One of the symptoms of loss and change is Anger. After all you have been through, you might direct it at yourself. If you do, express it outwardly. Holding feelings in can lead to depression. I hope you reach the acceptance stage very soon. You have been grieving for a long time. x

Tara336 · 10/09/2023 15:13

@Ilikeyoursleeves I'm so sorry for your loss.

moggerhanger · 10/09/2023 16:58

So sorry @Ilikeyoursleeves . Feel whatever you need to feel, and be gentle with yourself. You're in my thoughts.

JenniferBooth · 10/09/2023 18:53

@Ilikeyoursleeves Sorry for your loss Flowers

Thestartofsomethinggood · 10/09/2023 19:58

@Ilikeyoursleeves . So sorry and also agree this will hit you hard at some point. Do everything to look after yourself

VoluptuaGoodshag · 10/09/2023 20:42

Just wanted to add to the ‘be kind to yourself’ comments. Xx

Iidentifyasweirdbarbie · 11/09/2023 05:12

My sincere condolences @Ilikeyoursleeves 17 years is such a long time to have dealt with an ill parent. Sending love to you 💐

I don’t know if anyone read the interview with Kate Garraway in the Times yesterday but it was such a heartbreaking read. Obviously caring for a Husband is quite different from an elderly parent but the running theme of Carers burning out/getting ill, the general stress of dealing with a ‘one size fits all’ NHS system when specific support is needed, the threat of withdrawal of support, the never-having-a-day-off, the shambolic response of SS, trying to raise a family, Non-access to a dedicated consultant etc etc. I felt so frustrated for her just reading what she’s going through, and as she pointed out, she has a voice on national tv/radio and even she can’t get through swathes of red tape without an exhausting battle. It seems like she’s having the reverse issue of fighting to keep someone young alive and is not receiving the support from the system to do so when the vast majority on here are questioning why life/prolonging treatment is being given to the elderly with multiple conditions, including Irreversible dementia. I hope to god someone in a position to be able to change the system also read it and has the decency to try and introduce reform.

Words · 11/09/2023 06:43

@Ilikeyoursleeves - please look after yourself now and accept all offers of help. It's a very tough time. You're likely to experience a myriad of emotions.

Pace yourself and take things one step at a time. I wish I had. There is so much to do in the days , weeks and months after a death it's easy to go into overdrive.

My mother died in January, ending 18 years of elder care , hospital trips, crises great and small, and then nursing home visits, with first my dad, then her.

I was so relieved I tackled everything head on as I was her only close relative - the funeral, the endless 'sadmin' , probate - and thought I was handling everything brilliantly. I wasn't. I hit a brick wall, and needed time off work in the end.

Am very much out the other side now, but my thoughts are very much with you, sleeves.

My thanks again to @Poochypaws for starting this thread and saying things that needed to be said.

It's one of the most validating threads I have ever read on Mumsnet, and I've been here years.

countrygirl99 · 11/09/2023 07:33

@Ilikeyoursleeves condolences.

ClaireEclair · 11/09/2023 11:52

While I'm not waiting for my parent to die I do understand where you're coming from. What pisses me off is the amount of medication my mother is given that I can't help but think there must be another way to do this. She has pills for every ailment going, all prescribed by the doctor. No suggestion that she should change her diet, move more (she rarely gets off her chair and when she does she can barley move a few steps), stretch. There's no encouragement to improve their lives, just medication shoved down their throat.

EmotionalBlackmail · 11/09/2023 12:04

Condolences @Ilikeyoursleeves

Please be careful not to overdo it - take some time for yourself and to do something nice regularly.

chaosmaker · 11/09/2023 14:06

ClaireEclair · 11/09/2023 11:52

While I'm not waiting for my parent to die I do understand where you're coming from. What pisses me off is the amount of medication my mother is given that I can't help but think there must be another way to do this. She has pills for every ailment going, all prescribed by the doctor. No suggestion that she should change her diet, move more (she rarely gets off her chair and when she does she can barley move a few steps), stretch. There's no encouragement to improve their lives, just medication shoved down their throat.

All of this will get worse if american style healthcare is pushed even more by the uncaring all for profit government. Labour also seems set on the same path. Pill pushing and treating symptoms rather than cause/lifestyle intervention and we overall need a better relationship to death in the UK.
@Ilikeyoursleeves sending condolences. Enjoy the relief and give yourself space. Grief is an utter twat. x

Ilikeyoursleeves · 11/09/2023 18:03

Thank you to all those who offered condolences to my recent post about my dad dying. What an amazing bunch of people you are. To still think of others while dealing with all the hell yourselves.

I am taking a few weeks off work and I'm figuring out how to sort a funeral out. My sister (who I am estranged from) has crawled out the woodwork and is shit stirring already which I really don't need!!! One of the great things about my dad dying (and mum dying 3 years ago) is that I will no longer need to have anything to do with my sister after this. Silver linings and all that!

Ilikeyoursleeves · 11/09/2023 18:05

@Words I agree re this being one of the most validating threads ever. I've been so alone in my thoughts for many years and felt they were really shameful when actually they are so very understandable.

Thank you again @Poochypaws

funnelfan · 11/09/2023 18:22

@Ilikeyoursleeves sorry you have to deal with that too. One of the silver linings I found of getting older, menopause, coping with elderly relatives, bereavement etc is that I have no fucks left to give for nonsense like people stirring things up. Having to ration your energy to deal with the absolute essentials of life really does help me see the the priorities.

this thread and others in the elderly parents board is like having an invisible army of women at my shoulder giving me much needed solidarity.

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