Does anyone know what children are asked to do for 4+ entrance at Haberdashers?

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My DD will be going for the 4+ 'play group' asesssment at Haberdashers soon. Does anyone know what they are asked to do/what they are looking for? There is very little information given by the school. Many thanks

funny though it is, in all fairness to the OP perhaps she lives in an area where the state schools are really horrendous?

i have a friend who works herself silly to send her daughter to aprivate school simply because the state schools in her area just aren't up to scratch

Glee you are cracking me up

I wouldn't worry-just take her along as she is. If the school want a DC of that age to jump through specific hoops I would steer well clear.

draw a picture of a person
write your name
count objects
recognise numerals and 2D shapes
complete a jigsaw puzzle
share a story and chat about it, be asked to make predictions talk about the characters etc

all scored

OP, Am I going loopy or have you posted this same thing 3 times already?

my dd was assessed i along lines that ratherbe has listed. also declined place as abmience seemed too contrived and artificial.

glees early posts on this thread also had me lol!

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dilemma456, the OP has already prepared her DD for all of that. The problem is that Haberdashers has a reputation for being a little bit more demanding than that.
The following link gives an idea of the higher standards required
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/43/251721

I looked at the website for one of the pre-preps here and noticed a long blurb about the 'special selection day'. The children 'love it' and don't even know they're being scored!!!!!' I guess they need to check the childrens grammar, pronunciation and probably make of clothes mummies are wearing. Damn my addiction to Primark - we'd fail

IJustwantedtoaskaquestion - there is more than one Haberdashers School, which may explain your confusion. There are two in SE London, both state schools, which don't seem to match the one people are talking about here at all (although also very oversubscribed!), maybe your SIL went to the one here!

At some schools they do all that assessment and then choose lots of dcs with Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays anyway...

IJustwantedtoaskaquestion & qumquat, I think the OP is referring to the one in Elstree
www.habsgirls.org.uk/index.php

"dribbling and throwing tantrums"

Is that me or the children?

I'm not a big fan of private schools, but i would say that if i ran one and had that many applications relative to places i would up my fees and take the richest ones!!
actually i think a lot of these things listed would be discriminatory against boys (some of whom, not all i know, develop a bit later but catch up) and summer birthdays
(mother of summer birthday child goes off to sulk....)

defo get a tutor. I'll do it for my mn rate at £460 per hour.

Agree with all the points made here about selection at aged 4.
What I would add is that this business of 10 applicants per place is surely not completely correct? Wouldn't the average private-school applying parent have applied to more than one school? And may move house, go state etc, etc. But these schools put about these stats so that if your child does get in, parents are so thrilled and honoured that they feel obliged to take the place whatever their reservations may be about the atmosphere and ethos?
Personally I've never known a London parent not get into one or other private school if that's what they wish. It's market forces. And I've known some shocking children... spitters, bullies, thugs etc all into deeply selective schools.

Oh Riven, - doncha know. They have lacross tournaments to raise money for children like your dd. It is important that they learn (from a safe distance) that there are children less fortunate than themselves

It is pretty standard for selective schools to ask children to attend assessment days. I had heard from a mum whose daughter attended an assessment day at our local private school that they are looking for signs of advancement. They want budding genuises or very bright children that can be moulded.

One of our state schools has the same expectations too, if a child does not have proper pencil control when they start nursery at 3/4 you are soon told about it.

My dd is 15 months and has superb pencil control - yay - should I send her to an assessment day right now?

Thing is, - for the reasons Riven has given and more there is no way I'd agree to her attending that kind of institution.

"would be discriminatory against boys"

boys are asseseed with boys and not against girs so that this does n't happen.

you need xenia!