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Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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Angeruish · 08/08/2026 20:39

We are nearing our 1000-post limit on the original thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5561878-jason-arday-cambridge-plagiarist?reply=153910946

I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

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MissyGirlie · 15/08/2026 22:39

Katey83 · 15/08/2026 17:49

What book?

Don't fancy outing myself, sorry.

Katey83 · 15/08/2026 22:39

Corianda · 15/08/2026 21:55

Do you really think heads will roll?
Who would /could sack someone in such a high position (? Vice chancellor Helen Kremen) -she can surely blame HR /the others on the recruitment board (they should all go imv) / JM University etc and in the end some minion might get demoted

I mean, ‘heads will roll’ doesn’t = someone should get sacked, or that’s not how I meant it. I was being hyperbolic. If an inquiry shows he was hired for backstory i.e: if there is evidence he didn’t meet the criteria for the job and was appointed above other candidates on the basis of his race/autism etc…then I’d expect a HR investigation into whoever was on the appointing committee with the potential for a disciplinary action if it is shown that there has been illegal hiring practices/discrimination in appointment processes. Outcome of this would gauge whether this amounts to misconduct, gross misconduct and what if any action is appropriate. Since the man has died as an indirect result
of being hired, I’d expect any failure to follow the correct legal and institutional hiring processes will and should be very firmly treated. As I have pointed out in my own hiring processes, it is not a kindness to appoint someone to a job they are not qualified to do, and in fact amounts to a safeguarding failure, because these people often experience serious distress when they realise they cannot do the job. There is also a safeguarding for students and colleagues, as they too are impacted by bad appointments. Having said all this, it may well be an inquiry finds he was properly appointed, given he was already a prof at Glasgow and had a reasonable about of serious publications/decent citation metrics/provable prestige etc. I don’t think it would be on a hiring committee to scrape his CV for lies or scrutinise the publications for plagiarism/quality as you would take in good faith that the CV is accurate and peer review is sound. You do tend to look at the academic work but it is up the candidate to submit a sample, and they usually send what they consider their best work. I’d expect at this level at least someone on the hiring committee would already know his work - it would be extremely unusual to appoint a chair nobody had heard of! If there are lies in the CV or if his larger prestige was built on lies it would
be an issue for thinking about future processes to discover these ahead of appointment.

Katey83 · 15/08/2026 22:40

MissyGirlie · 15/08/2026 22:39

Don't fancy outing myself, sorry.

Why would a list of errors in someone else’s book out you?

Marchesman · 15/08/2026 22:41

@AnonyMumAuDHD In the context of this discussion, I would include openness as a perspective.

(Strictly speaking I believe it is a heritable personality trait - but you will know better than me.)

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:46

Supersimkin7 · 15/08/2026 20:51

Most of my social media feeds are full of people saying he's blameless and been hounded due to racism. I thought it was that simple I'd agree- but it isn't.

Cambridge would love racism getting the blame.

Plays right into their DARVO strategy to avoid responsibility.

We owe it to JA and the rest of this country to tell the truth so it doesn’t happen again.

So if 188 press articles in the nine days between his resignation and death isn't hounding, what is? And again, please give evidence of any white person accused of non-criminal misdemeanours who was subject to this level of scrutiny
https://newscord.org/editorials/jason-arday-pile-on

A census of the 249 articles fifteen national outlets published about Jason Arday in 22 days. He resigned saying he was at the limits of what anyone should endure; the press answered with 188 more articles in nine days; he is dead at 41.

Jason Arday told the press he was at his limit. It answered with 188 more articles. He is dead at 41.

A full census of the 249 articles fifteen national outlets published about Jason Arday in 22 days, with the last day reconstructed hour by hour. Every article listed and linked.

https://newscord.org/editorials/jason-arday-pile-on

HelenaWilson · 15/08/2026 22:46

"The point of D&I is that you bring people into your organisation with different life experiences and perspectives; you value them and listen to them (that’s why it’s called “inclusion”); and the outcome is that you make more informed decisions."

Unless the person with the different perspective is Kathleen Stock or Nathan Cofnas (for example). Then they're not valued or listened to at all.

And I wonder if any university would have welcomed the late Ann Widdecombe in an academic capacity.

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 22:49

MissyGirlie · 15/08/2026 22:39

Don't fancy outing myself, sorry.

Why would you be outing yourself by saying what the book was?

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 22:51

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:46

So if 188 press articles in the nine days between his resignation and death isn't hounding, what is? And again, please give evidence of any white person accused of non-criminal misdemeanours who was subject to this level of scrutiny
https://newscord.org/editorials/jason-arday-pile-on

I think Raynor and Moth Winn is a good comparison to make with Jason Arday in terms of the scrutiny they had.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:58

HelenaWilson · 15/08/2026 22:46

"The point of D&I is that you bring people into your organisation with different life experiences and perspectives; you value them and listen to them (that’s why it’s called “inclusion”); and the outcome is that you make more informed decisions."

Unless the person with the different perspective is Kathleen Stock or Nathan Cofnas (for example). Then they're not valued or listened to at all.

And I wonder if any university would have welcomed the late Ann Widdecombe in an academic capacity.

Kathleen Stock has a column in the Times (so she is certainly not 'not listened to at all'). Her recent gems include saying women with disabilities are suffering from "social contagion", and that dyslexia, dyspraxia, autism, ADHD, speech delay are 'mental illnesses' that make people unsuitable for academic careers.

Nathan Cofnas has a university job, is frequently platformed, and his 'racial science' has no basis in actual science. He has also written that 'every child that gets measles is a victory against vaccines' - again, a completely unscientific position. Since JA's death, he has said he wants to be Professor of Eugenics and Race Science in Harvard 'after the revolution'. How is that credible?

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 23:00

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 22:51

I think Raynor and Moth Winn is a good comparison to make with Jason Arday in terms of the scrutiny they had.

Anything close to 188 articles in nine days?

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 23:11

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 23:00

Anything close to 188 articles in nine days?

Absolutely. As well as a podcast series, a Sky documentary and 27k+ posts (and counting…) on MN.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 23:18

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 22:25

Except that in research you are not looking for the researcher’s perspective - you are looking for the perspective of the researcher’s subjects? If you want to look at the experience of disabled people or black people or women in the learning space, then you invite disabled people, black people or women to participate in a project specifically designed to elicit their views and experiences, and in a manner that has passed the ethics committee and with with oversight from supervisors. It is not about YOUR experience, unless your research is authoethnographical (Helen Cremmins speciality, supposedly), I suppose - but I have huge issues with that as an epistemological form for ascertaining data for which may for the basis of generalisable observations to ‘learning spaces’ and lead to learnings that are applicable across wider demographics.

I mean, as an AuDHD person I can only explore and examine my own experience of education. It would be narcissistic and widely inappropriate to assume my experience maps onto even one other person’s live experience without extensive enquiry - ie I’d need to engage with multip AuDHD persons, in a systematic and defined manner to ascertain the similarities and divergences before being able to draw any broadly applicable learnings that might be of relevance to other AuDHD individuals?

I guess what I am saying is that you are supposed to leave your ego and your personal biases at the door when entering into research and to observe and interpret through an neutral lens. It’s why you are supposed to declare interests/byases up front? So therefore you don’t need to employ staff on the basis of their different perspectives - you need to employ them on the basis of their openness to understanding the different perspectives of others - and their research subjects specifically?

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Sorry for typos… bit tired today. Should have proof-read properly 🫠

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 23:48

Has anyone read any sections from the US release of JA’s autobiography? I have (in the past week, before the news of his passing last night), and it reads in parts as if his conscience wants to come clean but he stops just short of coming clean. E.g. a section where he is told there is no record of his booking at a hotel he stays at the night before his Cambridge professorship interview and the section where he writes about having to relearn by heart his PhD thesis because of short-term memory loss after a brain tumour removal operation.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/08/2026 00:18

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:37

Please show evidence of any white person in the UK whose alleged non-criminal misdemeanours has received so much coverage in the British media in recent times?
Here's a screen grab of just some of the headlines about Jason Arday from just one newspaper (Daily Telegraph) over a few days. Why exactly did it matter so much that he (most likely) fantasised about his life history? He threatened legal action against journalists - so did William O'Reilly, another Cambridge academic who was found guilty of plagiarising from his own students and didn't even resign or lose his job - where was all the coverage about him?

Max Mosley committed no crime, yet the alleged details of his sex life were all over the press.

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 16/08/2026 00:39

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/08/2026 00:18

Max Mosley committed no crime, yet the alleged details of his sex life were all over the press.

And were there a similar number of articles about him in a comparable period?

The JA coverage was extremely disproportionate - and as many, many people pointed out he was clearly vulnerable and possibly mentally ill. The whole episode smacks of a lynch mob.

The BBC and other media outlets were told those who knew him were concerned for his well-being and that they were in a 'life saving situation' but they persisted.

It's notable that a number of commentators and journalists and newspapers have deleted their coverage of JA:

https://feminegra.com/they-published-it-while-jason-arday-was-alive-why-are-they-deleting-it-now/

They Published It While Jason Arday Was Alive. Why Are They Deleting It Now?

Writers and outlets are deleting Jason Arday posts and articles after his death. What does the sudden clean-up reveal?

https://feminegra.com/they-published-it-while-jason-arday-was-alive-why-are-they-deleting-it-now/

Quokkas · 16/08/2026 01:13

I wonder if, in the coming months, there’ll be podcasts and documentaries on this?

I would like to delve into this more to understand the whole situation better. I don’t mean in a bad-taste way, but in a way where I can understand a bit more about who JA was and about the thought process of Cambridge and the other unis he worked for in appointing him.

I’d quite like the Observer to do a podcast on it, as they’ve done really good ones before. Or maybe Patrick Radden Keefe (investigative journalist) could look into this.

Breadlegs · 16/08/2026 01:43

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:38

how exactly is merit judged?

All this "d&I doesn't work" stuff. D&I can be practiced in so many different ways. It is literally about merit. It should be about making sure someone who has merit gets the same chance as everyone else with equal merit and isn't stereotyped out of appointment/promotion/pay.

In my faculty 15% of profs are women. D&I means we can question and monitor decisions to try and keep a leash on the wildly biased decisions that favour white men. Without d&I 'merit' is bent to mean 'in my personal network and hiring them will give me a quid pro quo to his supervisor who will then hire one of my PhDs next year'

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 16/08/2026 06:43

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 23:11

Absolutely. As well as a podcast series, a Sky documentary and 27k+ posts (and counting…) on MN.

As well as a podcast series, a Sky documentary and 27k+ posts (and counting…) on MN.

Two podcast series. One from the Observer's Chloe Hadjimatheou who broke the Salt Path story & another from the BBC

Lalgarh · 16/08/2026 06:58

Spotted via Reddit

Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two
anyolddinosaur · 16/08/2026 07:47

It can both be true that the extensive coverage of this was racist and that Cambridge's initial appointment of him was racist, applying a lower standard to scrutiny of his work because of his colour. The former will get a lot of attention as a way to detract from the latter. It doesnt help real inclusion.

If the first comments about lies on his cv had been thoroughly and properly investigated instead of being dismissed as "racism" he could have quietly resigned and found another post that was lower profile. Cambridge have a lot to answer for but there doesnt seem to be any evidence or real learning.

keepincool · 16/08/2026 07:48

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 23:00

Anything close to 188 articles in nine days?

Again, the higher scrutiny was due to his media profile and the inconsistencies in his autobiography. The GLP letter didn't help either, it just added to the furore.

Noras · 16/08/2026 07:51

I just remain really confused about his medical history.

My son is ASD with language impairment and certainty was not talking at aged 8 as in it was scatter-gunned noises with words interspersed.
We were also advised at 18 months that he would be globally delayed ( by neurology) due to a delayed latency on a VEP indicating white matter damage and immaturity. He was described in detail by SALT at that age as showing echolaeia, rambling and scattergunned words. At age 11 he was still on the 1 percentile.

Although my son talks now and is at university, his ASD impacted speech issues remain. He has tangential speech, false starts and stutters. He has marked intelligence so can smooth it out a bit and it’s just his speech pattern

The cause of much of ASD language disorder is the working memory and the talking load. This results in slightly non fluid speech with sentences like ‘it’s as if it’s as if I was going going to the zoo’ The stutters are classically ASD and differ from a non ASD stutter in nature. A word in the middle of the sentence get started, rejected and then repeated etc - it’s hard to describe but it makes using voice to text a nightmare.

Perhaps this man had something else going on? Not classic language disorder but a reluctance to talk?
Suddenly his brain decided to allow him to talk?

He also said he had global delay
Again that would be in intellect/
learning, physical motor skills and social communication and speech.

Global delays means profound issues in 3 ( I think ) things.

If someone has learning impairment as a young child as an example they are not goi n to suddenly be able to read. They are testing with an IQ below 80 ( I think that in the 70 is the cut off)

if a child has motor issues - they simply don’t disappear.

You need to hit 3 of these ( I think) to be global.
My son was under childhood development clinic and was diagnosed motor and language.
His learning was unimpaired. He ironically smiled so he was at that time socially ok ( ironically as he was diagnosed ASD later)
You don’t normally suddenly miraculously get better from eg motor. Despite huge improvements my son would never be a football player or tennis player. He has to have support to structure / organise a tray to keep it balanced as an example.
He cannot cut safely. He can’t write long pieces of text and needs equipment.it also impacts his organisational processes eg he has soft ware to brain storm.

The fact is that ND is caused by something in the brain not working right. Therapy can go so far but not far enough to eradicate it.

This man described profound development issues from childhood - like my son.

As a disabled person this man was held up to my son ‘look what you can achieve and he is just similar to you ‘ but life for my son is not that simple.

My son has done amazingly well to overcome huge issues but you can’t normally ( in my experience ) expect a miracle which is what seems to have allegedly happened here.

Yes my son has an amazing and sophisticated vocab to overcome word finding issues. However he has disordered language still. You never recover from receptive language impairment as far as I understand.

Yes he is physically better but he still tests at 0.5 percentile on the ABC with all the issues that involves including just remembering where to be each day. He will always need help with his executive functioning / organisation aspects of life.

Against that my son has very deep breath and depth of knowledge in his chosen subject and will read and consume books widely on the subject and will be able to have detailed analytical arguments. Hsi support team hope for the best for him and hope we will get his degree and then a Masters. But he has to work really hard to achieve ( far more than NT students ) and indeed volunteered with his PA throughout Summer on a project linked to his special interest / degree. Again he has a PA to hand to support when needed.

For my son there is no Lazarus moment ie suddenly he talked, suddenly all his delays went away. For him, life is not like that. His life is sheer hard work to be at university. He gets immensely tired as he has to work twice or three times as hard to achieve. But his hyper focus allows him to do that.

bluewanda · 16/08/2026 08:22

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:38

how exactly is merit judged?

Academic results combined with performance at interview.

bluewanda · 16/08/2026 08:48

And previous employment history too obviously. Sorry, brain not working today.

mids2019 · 16/08/2026 08:52

OneArtfulUmberSquid · 15/08/2026 22:37

Please show evidence of any white person in the UK whose alleged non-criminal misdemeanours has received so much coverage in the British media in recent times?
Here's a screen grab of just some of the headlines about Jason Arday from just one newspaper (Daily Telegraph) over a few days. Why exactly did it matter so much that he (most likely) fantasised about his life history? He threatened legal action against journalists - so did William O'Reilly, another Cambridge academic who was found guilty of plagiarising from his own students and didn't even resign or lose his job - where was all the coverage about him?

Jason was a professor at the most prestigious university on the planet and there was story upon story of both his plagiarism and lying. What news outlet is not going to run with this especially as he is the public sphere.

Prince Andrew had much more public castigation and scrutiny for his lying.

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