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Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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Angeruish · 08/08/2026 20:39

We are nearing our 1000-post limit on the original thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5561878-jason-arday-cambridge-plagiarist?reply=153910946

I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

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MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 15/08/2026 13:19

I wonder if his book will still be published in the UK at the end of August?

It's available for pre-order at £14.79

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1398542741/

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Gymnopedie · 15/08/2026 13:22

Moreover… look carefully below for reporting on the debunking of his improbable sporting achievements, extraordinary charity work, claims to have been in a coma for two months, assertions of having a brain tumour removed just before defending his PhD, and all the rest of it.

I don't know if I'm missing something obvious, but where were JA's family during the last few weeks? From the BBC reporting his death:

Arday's family said in a statement that they were "in shock to have lost this amazing father, partner, brother, uncle and son".
They added: "The campaign of misinformation was too much for Jason, who was a gentle man and who always wanted to see the best in everyone."

If your amazing son or brother was being accused of lying over these things, and about his developmental delays, wouldn't you want to defend him? Wouldn't you want to come out in the strongest terms and say 'he's telling the truth'?

Do we read anything into their silence? Did they just not want to get drawn into it one way or the other? I can see they might not want to comment on academic matters, but his personal history is an area they know better than anyone else. I just find their silence really odd.

Yorkshirelass04 · 15/08/2026 13:35

Self styled 'Academic Barbie' and Manchester PhD hopeful Ashley Collar is posting 'Jason Arday died due to White Supremacism'.

We are going to learn nothing from it aren't we.

Marchesman · 15/08/2026 13:44

MissyGirlie · 15/08/2026 09:34

Indeed.
And to say as someone did upthread that Cambridge had done nothing to address staff diversity is just not true. I was there in the 1980s and almost all the students were white, as were almost all the lecturers (Britain was around 95% white at the time). Out of perhaps fifteen traching staff I had contact with as an undergraduate, 2 were women (and iirc, one of those was part time). Things have changed massively since.

Moreover, it's not the job of elite institutions to resolve problems that begin much further down the chain. It's not the job of universities to make societies look equal by scrupulously admitting students and appointing staff to tick boxes relating to sex, gender, disability, ethnic background or social class.

Nobody expects a premier league football team to ensure that x% of the squad is autistic/ is Asian/ has mobility problems, because the job of a premier league football team is to win matches and ultimately top the league.

Similarly, elite academic institutions exist to produce groundbreaking research that helps to make the world a better place. To do that, they need academics who already have a proven record, because it's not the job of those institutions to bring people up to a speed that they may not be capable of attaining. Same with students. If the problems are structural, the work needs to start back at the beginning, rather than expecting universities to slap sticking plasters over the issue so we can all pretend it's all okay - while research standards slip and the job we pay universities to do (underpin civilisational progress) isn't done as well as it should be.

That's the conversation we need to have: why do children from different backgrounds start school at such different levels, and what can we do about it?

Children start at different levels because educational attainment is approximately 40% heritable and then parenting accounts for much of the rest.

I think it is important to ask why educationalists behave as though this were not the case. Their position is certainly consistent with Hilary Cremin's view that prior attainment does not predict future attainment (in the recording below and posted earlier in the thread); that numeracy and literacy are overrated (Farah Ahmed asst. research prof also Cambridge faculty of education, and previously linked to Hizb ut-Tahrir); and ultimately with Arday's appointment and Cambridge's egregious concealment of the problem last year.

Even if everyone in the faculty of education at Cambridge has lost their mind, someone still made a calculated decision to appoint them. In the context of decolonising curricula, mathematics for social justice etc it cannot be unreasonable to question whether we as a nation are doing this to ourselves or getting outside help.

Lougle · 15/08/2026 13:46

I think that part of what's missing in the mix is that this isn't just about plagiarism of an essay. A PhD is the highest academic award in the university system. A PhD thesis is not an essay, where someone might compare and contrast current and past knowledge about a subject, drawing a conclusion. It is new, original material that expands the discourse on a topic. It is authoritative and robust. That's why PhD candidates have to defend their thesis via a viva - they are making new claims about an area of study so need to justify them.

If people can use other people's work and simply reorder the words, or completely lift sections of other people's work, it devalues the work of everyone else. There is no 'I passed my PhD with a first'. You have either passed or failed.

lastminutelily · 15/08/2026 13:47

YourAmplePlumPoster · 15/08/2026 11:27

The furore over The Salt Path was just as great. Why? Because people don't like lying about disability or having cancer.
There are quite a few documentaries on various channels about people lying about having an illness to either gain attention or extract money. My own mother died of cancer and it was gruesome.

It wasn't just as great - I asked ChatGPT how many articles were written about each scandal - for Jason Arday it was 249 and for the Salt Path it was 45. So it wasn't just as great. the Salt Path did not dominate headlines for days. The Daily Mail alone has written 38 articles about him.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 15/08/2026 13:48

roxyro · 15/08/2026 08:19

Watching the news last night, various people were being interviewed about the tragic ending of JA’s life. One was Jolyan Maugham (excuse spelling if it’s wrong), supporter of JA and founder of the Good Law Project, the other was the Baron Cohen guy (can’t remember his full name) who’s a leading authority at Cambridge on autism and is also a supporter of JA.

What is clear is that they were both in touch with Jason on an almost daily basis and Baron Cohen had spoken with him that morning. So he was being supported. However, what was also clear was their blind refusal to accept that academia had played any part in this sorry affair. BC illustrated the point when he reiterated that his PhD was genuine and well deserved as JMU had investigated the plagiarism claims and exonerated him. He, as an authority on ND said that autistic students don’t understand or see why this can be viewed as wrong so allowances have to be made. Isn’t this the issue here?

JA was elevated beyond his capabilities. He was lauded and amplified and presented to the public in a fanfare of publicity, appeared on tv shows, podcasts, radio stations etc. and because someone scratched their head and said “hang on a minute” this doesn’t add up, let’s have a closer look the whole circus began.

Apparently some outfit, “The Times Education” (yet again can’t remember and cba to look up atm) was the first to start the ball rolling. They aren’t connected to The Times newspaper and as their name suggests are all about education, academia etc. If their inquiries had been dealt with by Cambridge this wouldn’t have been picked up on by the MSM.

i don’t doubt there will be much covering of backs, deflecting blame and outlandish claims of racism. Judging by the two being interviewed last night there’ll be no acceptance that their ridiculous, flawed ideology led to this outcome.

He, as an authority on ND said that autistic students don’t understand or see why this can be viewed as wrong so allowances have to be made. Isn’t this the issue here?

  1. I'm autistic and I understand full well that plagarism is wrong.
  2. Universities are required to make reasonable adjustments for students and staff. Giving a plagarist a free pass is not a reasonable adjustment, it's very much unreasonable.

Once again, Simon Baron-Cohen harms the autistic people he's built his career on. People at work are going to look at my work and think it is stolen.

Lougle · 15/08/2026 13:50

lastminutelily · 15/08/2026 13:47

It wasn't just as great - I asked ChatGPT how many articles were written about each scandal - for Jason Arday it was 249 and for the Salt Path it was 45. So it wasn't just as great. the Salt Path did not dominate headlines for days. The Daily Mail alone has written 38 articles about him.

The Salt Path scandal is ultimately a story about a story which was claimed to be true but was actually a romanticisation of a pretty seedy situation.

The Jason Arday issue is so much wider. They aren't comparable.

Strangerthanfiction123 · 15/08/2026 13:58

RIP JA but have the Cambridge Students started a BLM Protest yet? Are they going to support the claims of racism…. or will some continue on with their claims for dodgy tuition and low grades, that will be into.

SylvanMoon · 15/08/2026 14:06

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 14/08/2026 09:24

Yeah we are not meant to have more than 6, but you always get exemptions.

Agree he may have been an additional supervisor. I am not a creative writer (putting it mildly!) but have been an additional supervisor on 2 CW PhDs in the past, where the candidate was writing about something to do with my research area.

I was given an additional third supervisor for the last year of my creative writing PhD because I moved from 80/20 creative/critical to 50/50 and the new supervisor became really important to that element (also one of my original supervisors was going to be retiring by the time I did my viva).

But why would Arday be supervising (or examining) critical race sociology PhDs when his was in sociology of education?

Lalgarh · 15/08/2026 14:13

This was pasted on another thread and might have been here earlier. Richard Dawkins has written about the faculty of Education that hired him (Arday) and the creationism now being taught under the guise of anti Imperialist Islamic studies

https://nitter.net/RichardDawkins/status/2088514414425043341#m

The paper says that “countering colonial hegemony in science education for Muslims” could include “identifying gaps in fossil records to make the case that the evidence of humans descending from apes is inconclusive.”

Another2Cats · 15/08/2026 14:26

BusyRascal1 · 14/08/2026 23:07

It's never anyone else's fault that someone takes their own life but everyone who contributed to the nastiness towards the person has played a part in pushing them towards it.

But on the other hand, I would say that:

"Fantasist conmen in important national institutions who use libel law to intimidate journalists shouldn't be investigated and exposed because it is likely to cause them significant personal difficulties, and they may respond in extreme ways"

is not a sustainable principle.

What exactly is "contributing"? Perhaps pointing out things that could not possibly be true?

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 14:40

lastminutelily · 15/08/2026 13:47

It wasn't just as great - I asked ChatGPT how many articles were written about each scandal - for Jason Arday it was 249 and for the Salt Path it was 45. So it wasn't just as great. the Salt Path did not dominate headlines for days. The Daily Mail alone has written 38 articles about him.

I asked Google AI - it said that more than 400 articles had been published in the scandal phase of The Salt Path furore - plus there was the serialised expose in the Observer (I think) and then there was the two part Sky documentary on it… I’d say that, given this, it is absolutely fair to say that the level of coverage was pretty even. And as others say, the impact of the Cambridge appointment scandal, in that it cuts to the heart of academia and the implementation of DEI, has wider social implications than a supposed biography being found to be utter fiction, even given the cynical and cruel way it mislead cancer suffers.

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 16:58

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 14:40

I asked Google AI - it said that more than 400 articles had been published in the scandal phase of The Salt Path furore - plus there was the serialised expose in the Observer (I think) and then there was the two part Sky documentary on it… I’d say that, given this, it is absolutely fair to say that the level of coverage was pretty even. And as others say, the impact of the Cambridge appointment scandal, in that it cuts to the heart of academia and the implementation of DEI, has wider social implications than a supposed biography being found to be utter fiction, even given the cynical and cruel way it mislead cancer suffers.

What do you mean, it ‘misled cancer sufferers’? It had nothing to do with cancer. It misled people who had corticobasal degeneration (CBD), which is the illness that Moth (the husband of Raynor Winn, the author) apparently has.

Katey83 · 15/08/2026 17:49

MissyGirlie · 15/08/2026 13:09

Similar scrutiny would find similar errors in work by other academics, he said.
(From the BBC link above)
Yes, it would, in the work of some academics. That's why Retraction Watch exists. It's why I have a document on my laptop detailing the numerous errors in a book by someone who is supposed to be an expert (I never rely on the work of the academic in question now, and I always check back to the sources given).

But no, for many academics it wouldn't. Because most people understand that plagiarism is theft and fraud rolled into one. Because most people recognise that if your academic work is riddled with errors, its conclusions have no value.

Of course, some people either don't care or have an agenda to push, or both. But I hope that they remain in a tiny minority.

What book?

Katey83 · 15/08/2026 17:51

SylvanMoon · 15/08/2026 14:06

I was given an additional third supervisor for the last year of my creative writing PhD because I moved from 80/20 creative/critical to 50/50 and the new supervisor became really important to that element (also one of my original supervisors was going to be retiring by the time I did my viva).

But why would Arday be supervising (or examining) critical race sociology PhDs when his was in sociology of education?

I have supervised/examined quite a few PhD’s that are not directly in the subject/topic my own PhD was on. I think that’s fairly normal as you accrue expertise in different areas as you progress, particularly if your work is interdisciplinary.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 15/08/2026 18:44

@roxyro Yes I head thd Good law bloke on Stephen Nolan. He was upset but blamed the press. At no time would he accept the lies were the real issue and his appointment. It’s just farcical that his claims were not checked out. Of course he said the press was racist too. My difficulty is that favouring a black person without due diligence might have been not considering a very good alternative minority person. The appointment seems about box ticking and not accepted recruitment law. It’s been twisted to meet an agenda and it’s wrong. A human being was in the middle of this and Cambridge should have been far more diligent regarding the appointment.

MrPickles73 · 15/08/2026 18:54

Surely lying on your CV (in terms of qualifications and jobs) is fraud. And Cambridge's recruitment process has been found to be inadequate?

bluewanda · 15/08/2026 19:19

I said on another thread and I’ll say it again, roles such as this (and indeed any job) should be awarded on merit alone. If that were the case in this instance then Jason Arday would still be alive.

bluewanda · 15/08/2026 19:29

And yes, I’m not denying there are systemic societal issues that need to be addressed, but it really is that simple.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 15/08/2026 19:42

@MrPickles73 Yes it is and most disciplinary procedures would see it as gross misconduct too.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 19:54

Quokkas · 15/08/2026 16:58

What do you mean, it ‘misled cancer sufferers’? It had nothing to do with cancer. It misled people who had corticobasal degeneration (CBD), which is the illness that Moth (the husband of Raynor Winn, the author) apparently has.

Okay apologies CBD. Misspoke (not read book, no interest in film, but read reports.).

bluewanda · 15/08/2026 19:57

Should DEI exist in the workplace? I genuinely don’t know if it leads to situations like this one. What do others think?

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/08/2026 19:57

SylvanMoon · 15/08/2026 14:06

I was given an additional third supervisor for the last year of my creative writing PhD because I moved from 80/20 creative/critical to 50/50 and the new supervisor became really important to that element (also one of my original supervisors was going to be retiring by the time I did my viva).

But why would Arday be supervising (or examining) critical race sociology PhDs when his was in sociology of education?

That’s interesting - my PhD pitch was 75 creative: 25 critical. Recently told that creative should be as long as it needs to be and the critical needs to be 40k, so now 66/33. No offer of another supervisor. And only 9 months (now 7) to achieve the extended critical component. 🤯

bluewanda · 15/08/2026 19:59

This article makes a convincing argument that it should: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/13/jason-arday-diversity-how-and-why-we-should-defend

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