Jason Arday, Cambridge Plagiarist, thread two

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We are nearing our 1000-post limit on the original thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/education/5561878-jason-arday-cambridge-plagiarist?reply=153910946

I have now removed the question mark after "plagiarist".

I can't believe the sequel will be as good as the original, but you never know...

No doubt Cambridge will blame the press and social media but ...

Absolutely tragic and awful.

I have to admit I wondered if this might happen.

I think Cambridge have a lot to answer for here.

I’m really sorry to hear he has died. His poor family.

Definitely tragic but not unsurprising. The whole affair still needs to be thoroughly examined to see if and how this deception had been enabled.

How awful. His family must be devastated. I hope all those who knew him are supported.

A shock and very sad but I feel he was let down as it should have never have reached this point. Yes, the press and social media and commentators will all be blamed but Cambridge have to shoulder some responsibility for this sorry saga. It’s been disastrous all round. It’s tragic.

It is awful and indicative that there was underlying MH issues - Cambridge have a lot to answer for facilitating him into this situation.

Where WHERE was their duty of care??

Rest in Peace Jason and condolences to your family and friends.

Rest in peace, Prof and condolences to your loved ones.

Let this be a lesson to every poster who sat and bitched about a man they never met.

Sure he was a fantasist and sure he was over-promoted, but that is in large part CU’s responsibility.

Shame on all of you.

What an almighty mess and a tragedy. Surely his employer realised that there might have been MH issues? We'll never know exactly how much of this mess was down to his possible fabulation, and how much owing to various institutions who did no due diligence and may have had their own agendas. I'm so sorry for him, for how he must have felt with the inevitable pile-on after this broke, and for those who love him.

Nope. I am not about to feel any shame for the fact this man took his life. That is on him.

It’s not just Cambridge is it? His whole career had very big holes in it. It’s absolutely awful that this has happened though. At what point should a university have called him out? Would the outcome have been equally disastrous? The agenda behind promoting him is clearly at fault but there really must be tighter evaluation of candidates, work produced and claims that seem too good to be true.

Quite separately I’ve been reading about a young woman who took her life because she was falsely accused of something at work. It was vexatious but had to be investigated. She thought she would lose her job and did not understand the disciplinary policy or process. It was not ever a dismissal issue. JA had resigned but his career was in tatters. He did, however, contribute to his problems and I just don’t understand why or why he was believed. Did he just get bolder and bolder and could not stop with his spurious claims? I’m sure the bright minds at Cambridge will wonder what on earth was going on with their systems and their employee.

No, it’s on all of us.

It really isnt. You want to feel shame then fine you go ahead and feel shame. I however will not be partaking in the shame fest.

It's awful, terrible news. I feel great sadness, particularly for his children, but I don't feel shame.

The shame is on the academics at Cambridge, powerful and scheming people, who used what appears to have been a vulnerable man to further an agenda. If Kathleen Stock had committed suicide after the pile on she got, I doubt there would have been much sympathy.

Yes, not an academic but this made me think of the Kate Clanchy affair. I listened to a podcast with her when she had said she had felt suicidal after she was cancelled.

22 pages of mainly criticism and sarcastic comments, then someone poats he has died, followed up by a few posts saying "Cambridge will blame ir on social media" then a back and forth about whether those who slagged him off should feel ashaned.
Dreadful

Not dissimilar to what other academics like Kathleen Stock have gone through. How about Nathan Cofnas the original whistleblower who was hounded out of Csmbridge? Except in this case the white liberals fawned over their pet and then decided to throw him under the bus.

That is very sad news. His family must be devastated

You haven’t read this thread at all have you.

This is on Cambridge, this is on enablers and a culture which allowed this poor man through to a position which he was untenable.

This then leaves us in a difficult situation, doesn't it, whenever someone is promoted for the wrong reasons? If you can't say, what has happened here, why has this person lied, why has their lying been enabled, when it has such massively wide implications as this case does, in case it precipitates a breakdown in the person at the centre of the storm, then what can be done?

This case had to be investigated and publicly debated, because its implications go so wide - plagiarism on Arday's part, lack of due diligence when he was appointed, a PhD being awarded to someone clearly not up to the mark, the suspicion that he was 100% a DEI hire.

I feel desperately sorry for Arday's family, and I feel compassion for him when he found himself carrying more than he could bear, but the people who should be lying awake tonight worrying are those who enabled this whole farago. His inadequate supervisors, people on appointments boards...

This is a disaster on many, many levels.