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How and why do children get IQ tested?

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bayesian · 18/08/2025 21:07

In what likely situations did this Henrietta Barnett pupil of higher IQ than Hawkings get her IQ tested? My understanding is that children do not usually get an IQ test unless they have some learning issues. In what situations would children without learning difficulties/concerns get IQ tested?

Student with higher IQ than Stephen Hawking gets 23 A-levels

Mahnoor Cheema, has an IQ of 161 - one point higher than the famous theoretical physicist and has received an unconditional offer to study medicine at the University of Oxford.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15003075/Student-IQ-Stephen-Hawking-23-exams-attendance-record.html

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TizerorFizz · 19/08/2025 14:58

@Natsku Behavioural difficulties is a SEN though. Sometimes exhibit rec because dc are bored and not stretched at school. We tend to forget that behaviour impinges on learning.

TheCurious0range · 19/08/2025 14:58

I had an IQ test in Y7, my form teacher noted my primary SATs were higher than most of their Y9s (extension papers) and thought it was a mistake, checked and it wasn't. GAT usually started end of Y8 at my school but they put me in for the IQ test with some older pupils and put me onto the GAT programme. Mine was 138

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 19/08/2025 15:27

Blushie · 19/08/2025 12:27

@OhCrumbsWhereNow - 16-18 GCSEs?! What school is that? The most I hear of at schools like St Paul's/Westminster is 12!

Kingsdale Foundation School.

By often I mean most years there are 1 or 2 sitting a large number - not entire classes!

The HT was very keen to tell us about how the could facilitate this number at the open day and that they had had the kids with the highest number of GCSEs in the country for x years in a row.

Suspect 34 will have rather put a dent in his stats!

Natsku · 19/08/2025 15:57

TizerorFizz · 19/08/2025 14:58

@Natsku Behavioural difficulties is a SEN though. Sometimes exhibit rec because dc are bored and not stretched at school. We tend to forget that behaviour impinges on learning.

That's true, behavioural difficulties can have a big impact on learning so does make them an additional need. Though DD wasn't even in school yet, just in nursery, and only exhibited her behaviours at home with me - was an angel at nursery!

extrastrongmintz · 19/08/2025 16:35

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 19/08/2025 15:27

Kingsdale Foundation School.

By often I mean most years there are 1 or 2 sitting a large number - not entire classes!

The HT was very keen to tell us about how the could facilitate this number at the open day and that they had had the kids with the highest number of GCSEs in the country for x years in a row.

Suspect 34 will have rather put a dent in his stats!

hmm, well what pops up when I google it is (a) no evidence of students doing 16-18 GCSEs (though a handful seem to do 12) and (b) a lot of evidence of the school doing its damnedest to game the GCSE system in every way it can.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/19/gcse-exam-malpractice-kingsdale-foundation-school_n_3621858.html

'Brilliant' School Praised By Cameron Helped Pupils Cheat In GCSEs

'Brilliant' School Praised By Cameron Helped Pupils Cheat In GCSEs

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/19/gcse-exam-malpractice-kingsdale-foundation-school_n_3621858.html

BreakingBroken · 19/08/2025 17:00

@Natsku “additional need” in the sense the teacher/staff need to make sure exceptionally bright students are motivated and present work in keeping with their abilities.
Yes, bright kids who know the math science lesson inside and out will daydream, doodle, wiggle and bug the kid sitting next to them. Likewise they can slap together mediocre work while sitting on the bus and think it’s acceptable because that’s the level their fellow students are working at.
They are often caught skipping class yet producing very good work.
Although gifted at “learning” stuff it doesn’t mean fully self motivated early on or easy to teach.

BreakingBroken · 19/08/2025 17:22

@extrastrongmintz that article is from 2013, 12 yrs ago. Most likely not relevant now.

Elektra1 · 19/08/2025 17:35

Most of the parents I know who’ve had their children’s IQ tested are the types who like to discuss how G&T little Johnny is ad nauseam. Like it reflects well on them in some way, rather than being a characteristic of their child as an independent being.

user149799568 · 19/08/2025 17:59

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 19/08/2025 15:27

Kingsdale Foundation School.

By often I mean most years there are 1 or 2 sitting a large number - not entire classes!

The HT was very keen to tell us about how the could facilitate this number at the open day and that they had had the kids with the highest number of GCSEs in the country for x years in a row.

Suspect 34 will have rather put a dent in his stats!

I think the key word here is "facilitate". For timetabling reasons, it won't be possible for a child to actually attend classes for more than 11-12 courses at a time. A school can register a child for 20+ exams and probably provide syllabi and materials for most of them, but I can't see how they could actually teach a child for more than a dozen courses. So the child will be self-studying many of the courses. Which is great if the child is interested in those subjects.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 19/08/2025 19:35

And you know that how?

Alicealig · 19/08/2025 19:55

IQ testing is the only fair test we have to date to be able to sort kids into groups where they are able to get the highest chance of success. You don't want the clever kids in with the, shall we say, not so clever as they'll always have a disadvantage learning with those who are so far apart.

user149799568 · 20/08/2025 09:36

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 19/08/2025 19:35

And you know that how?

I explained my reasoning. Now I'd like to hear your explanation of how a school can accommodate a child in 18 courses at 3 hours each of classroom time/week in a school week.

PetalsPeeling · 15/12/2025 21:34

My child got tested when she was in year 1 or 2
as she was struggling at school, both socially and emotionally. It was very useful to find out the scores for the subtests as it revealed where she was suffering and we were then able to help her

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