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Education taxers in family/close friends

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JamesDad2 · 12/01/2025 17:37

Do any parents with DC at private school have education taxers in their family (or close friends)?

OP posts:
JamesDad2 · 13/01/2025 08:49

yorktown · 13/01/2025 08:23

The Tories were the party that brought in brexit. It surprises me that you think that they would support VAT on private schools. Do you think they would have brought in a similar policy if they had been elected?

I believe only the SNP and Labour had education tax policies.

OP posts:
Borka · 13/01/2025 13:02

Why don't you post this in the Private School section, rather than the general Education section? If you genuinely want to hear from private school parents that would make more sense. But if it's just another excuse to bash people who have a different opinion to you, I guess this is the right place to post.

FixItFi · 13/01/2025 17:50

This is brilliant. I don’t think there could be a better demonstration of why dumbing down education is a bad idea, than a group of people getting really annoyed about being called education taxers whilst insisting education tax is a brilliant idea.

Cheered up my freezing cold January Monday.

MrsSchrute · 13/01/2025 17:58

What is the point of this thread?

Heathbear · 13/01/2025 18:13

MrsSchrute · 13/01/2025 17:58

What is the point of this thread?

It’s just another rant about VAT - there’s no point to it.

You can play bingo with them

  • Hard-working parents
  • Drive an old car
  • There’s no VAT on betting
  • It’s three years until vapes are taxed
  • X school has closed (without any acknowledgement that X school has been under occupied for years and the parents who’ve paid attention have all scarpered to new schools already)
  • The NE is different (niche but frequent)
  • Eton won’t suffer
  • I’m going to quit my job and then they’ll miss my taxes
  • Supreme court challenge / human rights act etc

Rinse and repeat ad infinitum

I think most people would agree it was brought in at a shitty time of year - it should have been September 2025 with proper notice.

The worries about children with Sen are understandable.

BTW, OP, I have DC in private school.

FixItFi · 13/01/2025 19:00

Heathbear · 13/01/2025 18:13

It’s just another rant about VAT - there’s no point to it.

You can play bingo with them

  • Hard-working parents
  • Drive an old car
  • There’s no VAT on betting
  • It’s three years until vapes are taxed
  • X school has closed (without any acknowledgement that X school has been under occupied for years and the parents who’ve paid attention have all scarpered to new schools already)
  • The NE is different (niche but frequent)
  • Eton won’t suffer
  • I’m going to quit my job and then they’ll miss my taxes
  • Supreme court challenge / human rights act etc

Rinse and repeat ad infinitum

I think most people would agree it was brought in at a shitty time of year - it should have been September 2025 with proper notice.

The worries about children with Sen are understandable.

BTW, OP, I have DC in private school.

“I have DC in private school.”
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CrossFit · 23/01/2025 21:00

My sister in law fits this description. We’ve completely cut off contact now. I know a lot of people attempt to justify it, probably to themselves as well, but she was quite open that she wanted the independent schools to close or the children be forced to move schools (including her niece and nephew). I don’t think you can keep a relationship going with people supporting hurting your DC, I can’t anyway.

Heatherbell1978 · 24/01/2025 16:03

Not sure it's a term that'll catch on. I guess many of my friends are but I just choose to not poke the bear and keep it out of conversation. My DS is at private and I'm very against it. Those who are for it and send their kids to private school are those who can easily afford it and are probably quite happy that their school will be more elite as a result. I've been commenting on another thread where my son's school was called cheap as I 'only' pay £15k. Thank God I'm not rich enough to send him to a more elite school if that's the type of parent.

TeenToTwenties · 24/01/2025 16:09

A) it isn't a common term

B) who cares? It is quite usual for people to have differing views. People who cut others off for having different, mainstream, political views are just putting themselves in a bubble. What is wrong with agreeing to disagree and live and let live etc.

Ginny98 · 24/01/2025 16:38

I'm an education taxer and have a child at private school

FixItFi · 24/01/2025 18:31

Ginny98 · 24/01/2025 16:38

I'm an education taxer and have a child at private school

and have a child at private school

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FixItFi · 24/01/2025 18:44

TeenToTwenties · 24/01/2025 16:09

A) it isn't a common term

B) who cares? It is quite usual for people to have differing views. People who cut others off for having different, mainstream, political views are just putting themselves in a bubble. What is wrong with agreeing to disagree and live and let live etc.

I’d agree with you, but it’s a view blatantly based on spite, ignorance and prejudice.

If people who supposedly care for your dc support an act aimed at making their lives harder, then it’s the right move to cut contact. I guess there’s grey areas, but I’d definitely keep education taxers at arms length from my dc.

TeenToTwenties · 24/01/2025 18:54

@FixItFi I don't think that's reasonable.

You can think something is good for the country / the majority even though it negatively impacts the few which may include your family or friends.

Labour have an idealogical view on private education. It may well not make short term financial sense, it may be that some kids with SEN, and others whose parents can't afford the increase are getting caught in the crossfire, but there are always people who lose out when policies change.

Ok if people are going 'ha ha your child has to leave mid gcses' then maybe you don't want them in your life, but cutting people off just for having different political priorities seems very insular.

upshot · 24/01/2025 18:58

I'd put someone who uses performative language like 'education taxer' in the same category as one who uses terms like 'plandemic' and 'Liebour'. It all seems a bit sad and isolated.

I'm glad Mumsnet exists to get you out of your restrictive social bubble, OP. Hope you're reading and learning how others think!

FixItFi · 24/01/2025 19:19

TeenToTwenties · 24/01/2025 18:54

@FixItFi I don't think that's reasonable.

You can think something is good for the country / the majority even though it negatively impacts the few which may include your family or friends.

Labour have an idealogical view on private education. It may well not make short term financial sense, it may be that some kids with SEN, and others whose parents can't afford the increase are getting caught in the crossfire, but there are always people who lose out when policies change.

Ok if people are going 'ha ha your child has to leave mid gcses' then maybe you don't want them in your life, but cutting people off just for having different political priorities seems very insular.

I get what you’re trying to say and it’s very diplomatic, but I don’t buy for one minute that anyone thinks taxing education can be ‘good for the country’. It simply doesn’t wash.

TeenToTwenties · 25/01/2025 07:47

Encouraging more interested better off parents to use state education and by doing so they make them more interested and invested in getting all schools good is not an unreasonable opinion.

You may not agree. I may not agree, but it isn't unreasonable.

saraclara · 25/01/2025 08:37

People who are educated and value education would want as level a playing field as possible, so that the education children receive bears no relation to their parents' wealth.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But apparently they only value education for the children of the comfortably off.

FixItFi · 25/01/2025 09:27

saraclara · 25/01/2025 08:37

People who are educated and value education would want as level a playing field as possible, so that the education children receive bears no relation to their parents' wealth.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But apparently they only value education for the children of the comfortably off.

Crabs in a barrel attitude. It really holds people and everyone around them back. Unfortunately it’s prevalent amongst the country and becomes self fulfilling as others move ahead in life and they double down on blaming them for their own situation, insisting it’s unfair in some way. It really only takes a minority to cause issues and although most PS parents won’t admit this, one of the the main reasons for independent school choice (especially prep) is to avoid bad parenting.

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