VAT on school fees (you have to read this!)

[EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime]

Government’s private schools VAT raid ‘could cost taxpayer £1.8bn’

Parents who are forced out of sector are likely to work less or even quit jobs, according to think tank research.

Adam Smith Institute.

OP this isn’t news. I’m one of those parents. We all said this would happen.

My DC are on a bursary from a private charitable trust not affiliated with their school. Bursary was 75%, they have cut it to 30% this year and next year are withdrawing it totally.

DC will go to a state school and I will be able to leave work. I am a HCP with a niche specialty and until I was made redundant last year I was the only person who did my role. Now no one does it and I work as more of a generalist.

With DC in state school I will be able to leave my NHS role and with it, the NHS looses 20yrs of my experience & 40hrs a week of my time. The govt will also lose my income tax contributions, and I won’t need to pay school fees. I am one of 6 women I know at my DC school who are planning to leave NHS jobs forever.

Tell me again how great this policy is.

It is a terrible policy and I hope someone litigates and wins to stop it.

Genuinely, sorry to hear this.

Tax policy formed from envy is always bound to fail - I hope Labour get their rear ends handed to them over this, and their other tax grabs.

It will be interesting to watch them try to spin their way out of the lack of savings generated, and their inability to recruit 6,500 new teachers. Perhaps Diane Abbot can be recalled to assist with the numbers.

I wish you all the best.

I would of thought there must be a legitimate legal challenge to be able to be launched it cannot be just implemented

@Theseventhmagpie "I’m bored witless by the left wing vitriol directed to parents who send their children to private school."

You should try being on the receiving end of accusations of hypocrisy, jealousy, envy, ignorance, not caring about one's

child's education and preferring to spend money on big cars, lying about the sort of school one's child is at, not caring about other children's suffering, wanting to turn the country into North Korea, wanting to join a "race to the bottom" (a particular favourite of mine)......I could go on!

Tax policy formed from envy is always bound to fail - I hope Labour get their rear ends handed to them over this

They just won an election with this as one of their flagship policies. Who do you think is going to be handing them their arse?

The share of UK adults who have a negative view of Sir Keir Starmer’s government has surged by about 20 percentage points in a month to 51 per cent, YouGov said, with the proportion of people who approve of it falling from 29 per cent to 23 per cent.

VAT on school fees a flagship policy? Have a word with yourself.

For some people, the extensive wraparound care (or boarding) makes it possible to work

It was one of their most publicised and popular manifesto points.

Let’s see how it plays out for them - fiscally, not politically.

We all know it was cheap politics, but they had to camouflage it with Diane Abbot accounting.

I’m calling bullshit on the 1.8 Bn to the exchequer + 6,500 new teachers.

I ask again, who do you think is going to be handing them their arse over this?

Only 7% are privately educated, the vast majority of those will suck up the VAT, and the general populace appears to either not care either way because it doesn't affect them, or they think it's a good idea.

Which media do you use, which subs do you have?

We look forward to private school children and their motivated and invested parents joining us at state schools throughout the land.
Every private school child that joins the state system results in just that little bit less inequality.

Are you implying that state school parents are neither motivated nor invested?

@Thatmissingsock if DS moves to state I won't have anymore time than I do now to do all the campaigning and lobbying that you suggest I should be doing for the state sector. Yet another person who thinks that PS parents are somehow obligated to improve the state sector in a way that state parents aren't. I have a child in each sector and don't do lobbying now because I work full time. And I would pay for tutors for DS anyway with the money I'd be saving on fees so solve some of his issues that way instead. Easier and less time consuming. So he'd still have privilege.

FloralGums · Today 21:03
We look forward to private school children and their motivated and invested parents joining us at state schools throughout the land

93% of children go to state school. Have their parents just been sitting on their arses waiting for ex private school parents to sort out their schools?
You obviously don’t have a very high opinion of state school parents.

@FloralGums didn't imply that at all.

Newsflash: motivated, invested parents of state educated children and motivated, invested parents of privately educated children aren't mutually exclusive events!!

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsdale_College

Read down to the 1970s in the history of Hillsdale College ^ to get an idea of where the leading lights of the Adam Smith Institute got their inspiration from.

Go to the Adam Smith Institute website, and in the bio section, do a search for Hillsdale College. It's also worth noting the George Mason University connections among the bios. For GMU, read "Koch Brothers".

Y'all are being played like puppets.

Clearly your family can get by without your income then, and you have no worries about your pension.

Can you understand why the vast majority of the hearts of the rest of the UK population are not bleeding for you?

Genuinely i didnt realise you can opt to pay more. I'm going to investigate it! I'd assumed the only option was to donate more to charity but i would prefer it to go directly to govt tbh.

Yes to this.

The policy was widely advertised ahead of the election.

It wasn't a big surprise sprung on the populace after the election.

Labour achieved a resounding electoral victory.

What’s wrong with Hillsdale or George Mason University? Yes, they lean right, but that doesn’t make them inherently bad. Both have rigorous programs with high entry requirements. They are serious places.

I don’t get your point.

Manufacturing umbrage over a problem that will affect a very tiny group of people is the gist of all these threads.

Trying to convince anyone willing to listen that the government has done women in particular a grave disservice is the unique angle to this one. I don't think the thread is going the way the OP thought it would. The apparently earnest reference to the Adam Smith Institute is both funny and sad at the same time.

EU law no longer applies.

You can thank the malign influence of certain think tanks and the Tory party for that.

I don’t think you can write the Adam Smith Institute off as a joke. They’ve been seriously influential. It’s like writing off anything the Sutton Trust says because they lean left.

You have to engage with the actual arguments on their merits.