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Daughter going off to university

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Percypenguine · 25/08/2024 11:13

My daughter is our only child and is going off to Uni this September. She’s feeling the usual overwhelming feelings. She’s a natural introvert and fears not fitting in. I want to support the best way I can, any thoughts would be much appreciated 😊

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Violetparis · 25/08/2024 11:16

I would advise her to join a society when she gets there. There should be a list of them on the uni website somewhere. There will be loads of different ones, not just sports ones.

clary · 25/08/2024 11:28

Yes my genuine advice to anyone going to uni - have something you enjoy that you can get involved in there. It will be a gateway to meeting people and keeping occupied when not studying. If a degree is low-contact, as many are, it's easy to just malinger in your room, but getting out to weekly practice and events gives you a focus.

Suggestions are:
sport (an obvs one - this has been amazing for my son)
music (DD played her instrument in a uni band)
drama (acting, behind the scenes, directing)
uni politics
book club
craft, knitting, crochet
social media for any clubs esp sports clubs (this is a massive thing for eg DS's sports club at uni - they are very active on Instagram, it must be someone's full-time role)
volunteering - many unis will have a section that organises and supports students to volunteer

what does she like doing? What does she do now in her spare time?

Shezlong · 25/08/2024 11:32

My DD is also going and generally is quite anxious about any change. Whats really helped has been getting on the Unifi app and finding people on her course and in her accommodation block that she's now been 'chatting' to for a week or so which has settled quite a lot of nerves about meeting people 'cold' when she gets there. Ignore all the general group chats though, that's for the extroverts! She finds people with something in common and talks one on one with them instead.

VanCleefArpels · 25/08/2024 11:38

Two words of advice to new students : keep busy! Most courses have very few contact hours every week so it’s really important to find other stuff to fill the days. They have been so used to having each day scheduled at school it’s a huge transition. So if it’s just spending time cooking, keeping fit, exploring the location, getting involved with a hobby/sport etc etc it’s imperative they force themselves to have a reason to get up every morning

Legacy · 25/08/2024 11:48

Violetparis · 25/08/2024 11:16

I would advise her to join a society when she gets there. There should be a list of them on the uni website somewhere. There will be loads of different ones, not just sports ones.

This x100.

If she wants to you could even investigate them all together before she goes and draw up a shortlist?

My DS has some mild SEN so we were more involved than is typical, but we did this with him - found about 5 societies which were in line with his interests - made sure he was following them before freshers, booked event tickets (if required) helped him make a timetable of when they all had freshers events and checked the locations.
As a result he had a timetable of all the things he was going to in the first week and he was BUSY but he says it was the best thing to do as he wasn't them ambling around the student union aimlessly, and he immediately got to know people in clubs with similar interests etc. He then narrowed it down to 2-3 which he threw himself into totally and never looked back. Ended up moving into a house in 2nd year with people he met at one of the society meetings in the first week!

If they don't get involved early it gets progressively harder to break into established groups and friendships.

PhotoDad · 25/08/2024 11:51

People tend to make friends at uni through one of three routes; the course, the accommodation, and clubs/societies. Reassure her that she will not be the only one feeling wobbly.

DD is an introvert with anxiety issues. She's made good friends. Her course has a lot of contact time and keeps her busy, which also helps. She also knows what works to ground her, so going for walks in nearby parks and so on is a little escape from pressure sometimes.

Lulubellamozarella · 25/08/2024 11:53

Thanks for this thread. I could have written exactly the same about my DD. She is excited to be starting uni but also has some anxiety about fitting in, whether she will enjoy it, will she be homesick? etc etc. She has made friends with the people who will be sharing her cluster flat and they have been chatting, which has helped somewhat, but I just want her to have a wonderful uni experience and as she is a little shy I worry that she won't put herself forward enough or be included in things. I will have a little chat with her about all the tips mentioned above.

Percypenguine · 25/08/2024 11:55

clary · 25/08/2024 11:28

Yes my genuine advice to anyone going to uni - have something you enjoy that you can get involved in there. It will be a gateway to meeting people and keeping occupied when not studying. If a degree is low-contact, as many are, it's easy to just malinger in your room, but getting out to weekly practice and events gives you a focus.

Suggestions are:
sport (an obvs one - this has been amazing for my son)
music (DD played her instrument in a uni band)
drama (acting, behind the scenes, directing)
uni politics
book club
craft, knitting, crochet
social media for any clubs esp sports clubs (this is a massive thing for eg DS's sports club at uni - they are very active on Instagram, it must be someone's full-time role)
volunteering - many unis will have a section that organises and supports students to volunteer

what does she like doing? What does she do now in her spare time?

Edited

She is a real home bird, likes a lot of time reading, horse riding.

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Skybluepinky · 25/08/2024 11:55

Get her to look through what clubs and societies they have on offer so she know which stalls to go to at Freshers.

sleekcat · 25/08/2024 11:56

Definitely agree with joining something of interest. Remember everyone is looking to make friends. My son made instant friends with the boy in the next room and they are still friends now. Go to events - not everything is about partying. I'm sure she will make friends and be fine.

RitaConnors · 25/08/2024 12:00

There will be other people like her wherever she goes. She doesn't sound very different from a lot of eighteen year olds.

My dd joined the book club in freshers week.

I think there can be a perception that university students are drunken confident loudmouths but that's not the case. There are so many different kinds of people, just like there are in the real world.

None of the other people who she will be living with are going to have lived away from home either. They will all be finding their way.

taxguru · 25/08/2024 12:13

Join lots of clubs, societies, sports etc. Most are mainly for "fun" so it doesn't matter if you're no good at something or never done it before. They usually have a "Fresher's Fair" in the first week with stalls/stands/displays where you sign up. They'll be "manned" by other students so she can talk to them to find out how "serious" they are. You can usually go to the first meeting/talk/event before you have to pay to join as a kind of "taster" session.

She can't rely on "making friends" with her course mates as so much is done online these days and there's very little actual contact time with lecturers etc. My son said every exam there were other students he'd never seen before who'd not attended any "in person" sessions at all. Lecture halls were typically half empty most of the time, if not even fewer. You also get "cliques" who don't socialise and keep within their own groups, particularly in Unis with high numbers of overseas students.

Likewise, can't rely on making friends with flat mates. It's easy to become the "odd one out" in a flat if you're quiet/shy and the others are social/extraverts or vice versa.

My son joined his Uni's astronomy club which he thought would be full of Physics students! He only had a passing interest but thought it wouldn't be for him. He talked to the students manning the stand at Freshers fair and they told him it wasn't "serious" as such, but more for people "interested" in Astronomy and Space rather than studying it. He went along, and it was basically just "normal" students talking about space, talking about SciFi movies, etc., usually having one night per week booked in the Uni observatory looking at stars, but mostly just chatting, eating pizza and drinking lager rather than stargazing! Sometimes they didn't even fire up the telescopes! He loved it!

One of his flat mates was a girl who'd never played Rugby before, but the girls at the rugby club stand persuaded her to join in and she ended up playing for the Uni team against other Unis. They weren't particularly good, but neither were the other teams they played against and it was mostly a social day out rather than competitive.

I do think sometimes students shy away because they think the clubs/societies etc are for "serious" students, but most of the time it's more fun and social than anything else, and really good for the quieter/shy students who don't want to go pubbing and clubbing to meet new friends.

PhotoDad · 25/08/2024 12:40

Another thing is that class sizes and contact time vary hugely from course to course. If it's a lab-based science or studio/performance art she will get to know classmates a lot more than if it's a lecture-room subject!

flotsomandjetsome · 25/08/2024 13:18

DCs 1st year was last year, and sounds very similar in personality and I can honestly say it's been the making of them.

Campus housing was in a big shared flat, and whoever sorted the accommodation did a really good job in matching people up, with flatmates all pretty like minded doing similar (but not the same) courses. They all got on really well, have become firm friends and 6 of them are sharing this year. Fingers crossed OPs DC has similar luck at their uni.

As PPs have said joining in is the key, whether it's sports or societies, DC said as everyone is in the same position it felt easier.

TheSquareMile · 25/08/2024 15:44

@Percypenguine

Which Uni is she going to, OP?

I'm wondering whether there are stables nearby where she can keep up her riding.

boys3 · 25/08/2024 16:05

TheSquareMile · 25/08/2024 15:44

@Percypenguine

Which Uni is she going to, OP?

I'm wondering whether there are stables nearby where she can keep up her riding.

Many Unis seem to have an Equestrian Society, plus there’s a full BUCS’ calendar https://www.bucs.org.uk/sports-page/equestrian.html

Equestrian

Saddle up and take part in the BUCS Equestrian programme.

https://www.bucs.org.uk/sports-page/equestrian.html

redwinechocolateandsnacks · 25/08/2024 16:53

My son has just completed his degree. The lack of structure can be a problem. He joined a sports team - He made friends through the sport and training filled some spare time. He didn't really get along with his 'flat' but moved with people he met through sport in year 2. He also took up any offers/invites - saying 'yes' to a party on the first night resulted in some close friends. Don't rely on loving your flatmates, get out and meet people on different courses, societies etc.

MargaretThursday · 25/08/2024 21:34

I'd echo others that clubs can be really good.

Dd made her best friendships through theatre groups. She was doing the tech, not on stage.

I think one mistake that I've seen introverted people make recently, is because they can easily contact old friends/family, they spend the first few weeks messaging/phoning them. That, at the time, makes them feel like they're socialising and they don't feel they're missing out at all. But as term goes on, old friends are making new friends and don't want respond as much and family seems a bit boring. Then when they try socialising, they feel that everyone is already good friends and they're the odd ones out (they're not, just that's how they feel) and give up on trying.

Tell her to look at the societies and pick a few, then whittle it down to a couple she can go to regularly. There sometimes are some quite different ones which are more about fun and socialising. Or ones like theatre where people are working together. There might be a reading group, for example, or a baking society or a volunteering group, look for ones that are going to naturally lead to speaking to people.

lovepets · 25/08/2024 21:42

I sent my daughter with a box of chocolates which she put on her desk. She sat there with her door open, and anyone who passed, she asked them if they wanted a chocolate. She said it really broke the ice, and got all her flat mates talking to her

way2early · 26/08/2024 07:04

lovepets · 25/08/2024 21:42

I sent my daughter with a box of chocolates which she put on her desk. She sat there with her door open, and anyone who passed, she asked them if they wanted a chocolate. She said it really broke the ice, and got all her flat mates talking to her

Love the idea, but my son would eat all the chocolates himself. 😁

However, this did remind me of a tip I read before my DS1 went to uni - pack a door wedge, because uni rooms have heavy fire-doors, designed to auto-close.

PhotoDad · 26/08/2024 07:13

We sent DD off with a few packets of microwave popcorn which was very valued as the flatmates watched a movie on the first night! (Those friendships didn't last but got her through the first couple of weeks.)

way2early · 26/08/2024 07:25

Another tip for keeping busy - get a part time job. Even if they don't need the money, it adds an extra dimension to their uni life that can stop them isolating in their rooms.

timetodecide2345 · 26/08/2024 07:44

@Violetparis this feels a bit 'old hat' now. Most students just communicate via social media before they even get to the uni. My daughter's friends already know who their flat mates are going to be and don't arrive for another few weeks!

Violetparis · 26/08/2024 09:00

timetodecide2345 · 26/08/2024 07:44

@Violetparis this feels a bit 'old hat' now. Most students just communicate via social media before they even get to the uni. My daughter's friends already know who their flat mates are going to be and don't arrive for another few weeks!

I disagree, not everyone will get on with their flatmates. Chatting on social media before meeting in person and living with them isn't a guarentee of friendship. I know this from my daughter and her friend's experience of being a fresher last year. Joining a society gives you the option of a wider circle of potential friends and organised events.

taxguru · 26/08/2024 11:27

@MargaretThursday

I think one mistake that I've seen introverted people make recently, is because they can easily contact old friends/family, they spend the first few weeks messaging/phoning them. That, at the time, makes them feel like they're socialising and they don't feel they're missing out at all. But as term goes on, old friends are making new friends and don't want respond as much and family seems a bit boring. Then when they try socialising, they feel that everyone is already good friends and they're the odd ones out (they're not, just that's how they feel) and give up on trying.

Nail on the head there. With social media, facebook, etc., it's too easy for the quieter/shy/introverted to stay in their comfort zone with old friends and family and not throw themselves into the new Uni life. You've got to throw yourself into everything at first, force yourself out of your comfort zone at the same time as everyone else is doing the same so you're all starting out from ground zero. Once everyone else makes friends, it's a million times worse to "break into" them unless you've an extroverted personality.

The Uni student unions can make things worse as, for the first few days at least, they tend to be all about partying, drinking, and other "out there" kinds of socialising, certainly for the moving in weekend. It's too easy for the quiet students to just ignore all that, or go and come away early if it's too boistrous for them, and retreat back into their own SM/Facebook World.

Fresher's Fairs are usually mid week, so there are usually a few days of partying and drinking being the main options. Then even after Freshers Fair, the clubs/societies don't start straight away and maybe another week or two before things start, coinciding with start of lectures etc.

My Son was "quiet/shy/introverted" and fell into the trap of not mixing in the first week or two. It set the scene for the full 3 years of Uni life sadly for him. He did go out to the bars with his flatmates on the first evening on moving in day, and did ok at the first bar just having a couple of lagers and a general chit chat with them. But then we moved onto a cocktail bar and started knocking back cocktails and shorts which just isn't his scene, and then they started getting boistrous and almost bullying him for not matching them with shots. He just made his excuses and left them to it - went back to his flat and got on social media instead! They invited him out again the next night, but he didn't want a repeat so made his excuses. Then he became detached from them as they got the impression he was snobbish/standoffish because he didn't want to do pub crawls with them, so they didn't include him in other things either, i.e. going shopping together, going to other activities together etc. He just stayed in his room and went on social media and facebook to his old friends instead! Very sad really.

It was the covid year, so few of the clubs/societies were in person, so the few he joined were all online too. Lectures were all online, as were tutorials and seminars, so he barely left his room for the first term. His flat mates were polite enough to him when they met in the corridor or kitchen, but they definitely excluded him from any "flat" group activities. All because he wouldn't get paralytically drunk with them that first weekend!

He learned from it all though. Last year, he started a graduate scheme job the month after graduated in a large firm who take in lots of graduates and interns every Summer. We told him to throw himself into everything going on to meet as many of the other newbies as possible and go out socialising with them whatever they were doing. To our delight, he did just that - thankfully, being older and more mature, they didn't just go out getting drunk so he never felt out of his comfort zone. He didn't hold back at all, sometimes going out 2 or 3 times a week in evenings or weekends with different groups doing different things. He absolutely loves his new life, and is so pleased he threw himself into it right from the first day. He went to five a side football on his second day after chatting with one of his bosses on the first day, discussing his hobbies and interests etc and has been going weekly ever since. He went to everything he could, i.e. pub quizzes with the interns, cinema every month with other grads, etc. Now, a year has passed and a new cohort of interns and grads are starting and he's doing his best to take them onboard and get them together and involved with out of work activities, suggesting things they can do, organising a couple of pizza lunches open to all new grads and interns in their first week. He seems to have appointed himself to take the new grads and interns under his wing to get them together in various groups.

He now says his only regret about Uni was not "getting out there" more and leaving his comfort zone and does regret spending too much time with his old friends on social media and facetime rather than going out to "find his tribe".