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Managed out of independent

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gentileschi · 25/06/2024 04:45

My 5 year old son is being managed out of his independent school, we effectively have 2.5 weeks to get something for Sept or come up with home ed plan. Any advise on how to navigate this? My son has an ASD diagnosis with PDA profile. He is not a school refuser and is up, washed and not in burn out or anything which is all I see advise for on pda sites. He just won't do anything he doesn't want to or isn't interested in. He is bright curious and interested in the world, his learning is coming along steadily. I can't see any places at any school let alone consider if he would fit there. Can online learning work at 5 years old? Is there a home education governing body? Who is supposed to look after us? Can you give advice on what I should be doing?

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malachitegreen · 25/06/2024 04:48

put him in a state school?

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 04:49

There are no places.

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tartancladpjs · 25/06/2024 04:56

Have they straight up asked you to leave the independent school? Is this private?

malachitegreen · 25/06/2024 04:57

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 04:49

There are no places.

well there will be, somewhere, have you contacted the council?

Ereyraa · 25/06/2024 05:38

Have you applied for state school? They have to find you a place, although it might not be close.

You can home ed, you don’t need permission.

GoodLuckWithYourMannschaft · 25/06/2024 05:44

When did the school first indicate that they would be looking to move him out?

Noras · 25/06/2024 05:59

Apply for an EHCP as soon as possible and get prioritised for when a space in a good school becomes available.

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:02

The school left a message on my phone on Friday asking us not to come in for the meet your new teacher morning and come and meet the head instead. I guessed what was coming. He's only been going in for a few hours a day as they are not coping with him - he won't comply with what they want him to do.

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minisoksmakehardwork · 25/06/2024 06:05

Does he have an EHCP? If not, I'd get the current school on board with applying for one now otherwise you'll be starting it in September in a new school anyway.

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:06

I've looked again at the local schools and can now apply, yesterday it said there were no spaces, maybe as I'd just started the profile? I think large class size school, with poor ratings are not going to cope any better or at all. Where do I start with home ed? How do you make sure they have friends?

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HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 25/06/2024 06:06

DS was at an independent primary and they were pretty useless with SEN. They could just about cope with bright and well behaved children with dyslexia but otherwise they really couldn’t meet needs. DS friend has ADHD but was diagnosed late and they had an awful time with school, he ended up being excluded.
Move him now to a setting that has more experience and resources for SEN.
Does he have an EHCP?

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:06

The school are rushing an ehcp to be done by the end of term.

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Meadowtrees · 25/06/2024 06:07

It may well be that they simply don’t feel that they can meet his needs or look after him safely.

Bestiease · 25/06/2024 06:08

Put him on the waiting list for as many local state schools as possible. Check with your local authority when the wait lists reset. In our area you have to reapply each year in July. If you do it quickly then you may be able to get a place.
Yes they can outright ask you to leave as awful as it is.

marigoldandrose · 25/06/2024 06:08

I don't think you can right off all state schools as failing. Once your son has an EHCP there will be more support for him and he could thrive. It's a drastic step to say home educating is needed if a private school won't keep him.

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:09

Meadowtrees · 25/06/2024 06:07

It may well be that they simply don’t feel that they can meet his needs or look after him safely.

Of course. I need to know what to do next.

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gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:11

marigoldandrose · 25/06/2024 06:08

I don't think you can right off all state schools as failing. Once your son has an EHCP there will be more support for him and he could thrive. It's a drastic step to say home educating is needed if a private school won't keep him.

He's had all the support an ehcp can give, it's just a bit of paper. I don't think he'll get the same elsewhere. He will not comply unless he's interested. He will need child led learning I guess.

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Meadowtrees · 25/06/2024 06:14

start phoning - LA then individual schools. If I was you I would tell them that you aren’t happy with current school (which I presume is true now) rather than that you’ve been managed out. Ask current school what sort of reference they will give.
does your dc run off? Do they hurt other kids? Or do they just quietly do their own thing?

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:14

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 25/06/2024 06:06

DS was at an independent primary and they were pretty useless with SEN. They could just about cope with bright and well behaved children with dyslexia but otherwise they really couldn’t meet needs. DS friend has ADHD but was diagnosed late and they had an awful time with school, he ended up being excluded.
Move him now to a setting that has more experience and resources for SEN.
Does he have an EHCP?

I think the focus is on the child achieving what the school want and not blossoming the child at the time that's right for them. I know my son is super bright, he just needs sections of his brain to mature more.

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marigoldandrose · 25/06/2024 06:16

@gentileschi at the end of the day there will be other children like yours with the same diagnosis who do go to state school with an EHCP and with support will get through school, there's no reason to suggest your child can't do that unless as part of the EHCP the setting they describe as being needed isn't available within the state sector.

CracklingLogsGalore · 25/06/2024 06:17

Most independent and private schools are utterly shit with ASN children, a local school is by far your best bet. That you’d turn your nose up at it speaks volumes.

Meadowtrees · 25/06/2024 06:19

Cracking - many independent schools do a brilliant job with SEN!! That’s why people choose them!

gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:19

marigoldandrose · 25/06/2024 06:16

@gentileschi at the end of the day there will be other children like yours with the same diagnosis who do go to state school with an EHCP and with support will get through school, there's no reason to suggest your child can't do that unless as part of the EHCP the setting they describe as being needed isn't available within the state sector.

70% of pda children are burnt out because of their school experience and achieving zero education. I'm not going there as he's thriving in himself just not at being a perfect pupil. In our case the school are burnt out not him.

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gentileschi · 25/06/2024 06:20

CracklingLogsGalore · 25/06/2024 06:17

Most independent and private schools are utterly shit with ASN children, a local school is by far your best bet. That you’d turn your nose up at it speaks volumes.

I'm absolutely not turning my nose up at anything. I'm asking for all options.

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BestSchool · 25/06/2024 06:21

If he gets an EHCP you could try for EOTAS rather than home ed on your own with no support. You could also look for specialist schools.

edyourself.org/eotas/